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Wink Judy just held a press conference to publicly thank George Kliavkoff
She's happy to find someone who screwed up a conference worse than what she did to C-USA.
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Yah obsession is weird
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(08-04-2023 10:28 PM)jones682 Wrote:  Yah obsession is weird

We have been in that conference a lot longer than you have and have more history with that conference than you do. Having been one of the founders of it. I still like many of the member schools in that conference and root for some of them. There is nothing weird about making fun of Judy and what she and the previous leader who picked her have done to CUSA.

This wasn't even an attack on CUSA schools. Just the commissioner. Just like how the PAC 12's commissioner has made many decisions that have slowly weakened it over the years till now it might actually be gone. Will CUSA continue sticking with the same commissioner and not learn from the PAC-12's example? Probably. Too many schools in it now haven't been there for the decades we have and seen the bad moves.
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(08-04-2023 10:28 PM)jones682 Wrote:  Yah obsession is weird

Yet here you are… on the Sun Belt board.
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(08-04-2023 10:28 PM)jones682 Wrote:  Yah obsession is weird

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RE: Judy just held a press conference to publicly thank George Kliavkoff
I can't believe I'm actually going to defend CUSA leadership but the AAC bound schools absolutely poisoned the well on their way out the door and she inherited a mess when she started in 2015. And then less than a decade later, the conference lost 9 schools and actually survived. That's actually kind of remarkable. The conference has the persistence of a tire fire.
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Commish Ban Ban has far more real blame in what happened than Judy, he was just smart enough to not go down with the ship and let someone else take the fall for his failure.
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RE: Judy just held a press conference to publicly thank George Kliavkoff
(08-04-2023 10:50 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(08-04-2023 10:28 PM)jones682 Wrote:  Yah obsession is weird

We have been in that conference a lot longer than you have and have more history with that conference than you do. Having been one of the founders of it. I still like many of the member schools in that conference and root for some of them. There is nothing weird about making fun of Judy and what she and the previous leader who picked her have done to CUSA.

This wasn't even an attack on CUSA schools. Just the commissioner. Just like how the PAC 12's commissioner has made many decisions that have slowly weakened it over the years till now it might actually be gone. Will CUSA continue sticking with the same commissioner and not learn from the PAC-12's example? Probably. Too many schools in it now haven't been there for the decades we have and seen the bad moves.

KSU actually isn't even in CUSA yet lol
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(08-04-2023 10:28 PM)jones682 Wrote:  Yah obsession is weird

Hi, visitor poster. What is a Kennesaw State?
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(08-05-2023 05:19 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Commish Ban Ban has far more real blame in what happened than Judy, he was just smart enough to not go down with the ship and let someone else take the fall for his failure.

Kind of like Larry Scott for the PAC 12.
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RE: Judy just held a press conference to publicly thank George Kliavkoff
(08-05-2023 05:19 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Commish Ban Ban has far more real blame in what happened than Judy, he was just smart enough to not go down with the ship and let someone else take the fall for his failure.

He did pick her, but let's remember Judy was associate commissioner during that whole time. I always find it funny when people don't blame the tv contract on her. The tv contract came after a full year with her on office. Not to mention she would have been in on negotiations even if the contract was nailed down before she became commissioner. Which it wasn't because she was in office for a full year. Some people try to blame the AD's, but I know the AD's of all the school weren't the one's in the room negotiating how much money it was.

Beyond that-

-We were told the money for all conferences would be going down at that time by the CUSA offices. This was due to cable/sat slowly declining in viewership. So we were just the first one's that would get a lower amount. This turned out to be factually untrue. I don't think Judy lied, but I do think someone lied to her and she accepted a low ball offer from that lie. It turns out everyone's tv deal went up. Even FCS conferences were getting increases while CUSA got just 20% of what it was. It came out that sports were the one thing people watched live now and therefore the money from advertising was all in live sports.

The fact that CUSA was astronomically lowballed can be proven from the fact that the same exact teams in another minus Navy and Temple got a tv contract that was 35 times CUSAs. Undervaluing your product by that much is more than just a mistake. Nor can any argument be made that Temple and Navy are anywhere worth that much.

-Bowls kept inexplicably leaving the CUSA contract. The once good tie ins repeatedly got replaced by terrible ones.

-Somehow CUSA lost the Battle for Atlantis basketball tournament. A tournament in which CUSA was guaranteed as a part of. Not sure what was ever given in return for CUSA voluntarily leaving it. Maybe a toy jeep.

-No communication. She doesn't really do interviews (even paper ones) and for sure doesn't get on tv hyping the conference.

-Too much Texas centric where she never left the office. Our AD and others that made the jump have spoken how it's nice to have Sun Belt officials actually travel to the member schools.

-The basketball tournament with the curtain in between.

-Going into more feelings territory, but the few things she ever did say it made me feel she was proud of CUSA being the stepping stones to bigger and better things. Also the one and only time I have ever seen her show emotion other than deadpan was one time when she talked about the SEC. CUSA looked like it bored her.

-Everyone just kept getting worse in CUSA not better. You could say we didn't do our part and ya that was true for the second half of CUSA, but how do you explain 12-14 teams getting worse? One person doing bad in an organization is on that person. Everyone in an organization getting worse over time is a leadership issue.

-CUSA had a commercial promoting title 9. The conference decided that what the best use of its advertising money was not saying how good the conference was, but advertising something that has zero threat of ever going away. She could have just given a press conference and talked about how good she thinks it is. Not spend ad money and the little exposure the conference gets promoting something that has almost nothing to do with the conference.

I feel bad for the schools in CUSA. A good organization has to start at the top. Poor leadership will kill even the best organizations of a long slow time.
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RE: Judy just held a press conference to publicly thank George Kliavkoff
-Too much Texas centric where she never left the office. Our AD and others that made the jump have spoken how it's nice to have Sun Belt officials actually travel to the member schools.

Bigfoot, Nessie, and Judy were all seen on our campus the same amount of times: zero.
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(08-05-2023 08:48 AM)KRT8871 Wrote:  I can't believe I'm actually going to defend CUSA leadership but the AAC bound schools absolutely poisoned the well on their way out the door and she inherited a mess when she started in 2015. And then less than a decade later, the conference lost 9 schools and actually survived. That's actually kind of remarkable. The conference has the persistence of a tire fire.

Let’s not get carried away about the survival effort. They brought in 2 independents nobody else wanted and found 3 FCS schools who wanted to move up, 2 of which aren’t ready. It wasn’t exactly 3D chess.

The real test is going to be what happens next.
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RE: Judy just held a press conference to publicly thank George Kliavkoff
(08-05-2023 10:02 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  -Too much Texas centric where she never left the office. Our AD and others that made the jump have spoken how it's nice to have Sun Belt officials actually travel to the member schools.

Bigfoot, Nessie, and Judy were all seen on our campus the same amount of times: zero.

The one story on ODU’s move to Sun Belt (I’ll have to find it) said a lot about CUSA’s leadership without directly burying it. ODU’s admins spoke of what a nice change it was to have conference officials on campus and them actually asking what they could do to help the school instead of the other way around. They threw a whole forest full of shade at Dallas.

ETA: Found it:

https://odusports.com/news/2022/7/1/athl...futre.aspx
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