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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 03:53 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:49 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  My next door neighbor has had his work truck broken into twice in the last month. At 6:30 in the morning this last time. I’ve had several relatives had their car stolen at restaurants on Poplar. Know about 3 or 4 that have been carjacked at different Krogers while trying to get gas. I’ve even witnessed a shooting on i40. I seriously doubt this is happening in Orlando FL as much or even in cities as big as Dallas or Houston. And don’t get me started on downtown which gets worse and worse with every passing day

Violent crime? Per the statistics, about half as much compared to Dallas. Personal anecdotes don't trump the facts. The data shows 2% will be victims of violent crime in Memphis versus 1% which is the national average. I'm not making these proclamations based on my "feels."

What a shock that the guy who think students walk to the Liberty Bowl, and ESPN is about to go out of business, also can't read crime stats. https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dan...e_vignette

The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2023 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes in 2022 (Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault).
The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Memphis, Detroit, Little Rock, Pueblo, Tacoma, Kansas City, Rockford, St. Louis, Cleveland and Springfield.

Rank City State Population
(2022 Estimates) Violent Crimes
(2022) Property Crimes
(2022) Violent Crimes (2023) per 1000 person

1 Memphis Tennessee 632,040 13,091 37,074 20.71
2 Detroit Michigan 635,276 12,724 25,005 20.03
3 Little Rock Arkansas 203,503 3,694 10,760 18.15
4 Pueblo Colorado 113,287 1,813 7,118 16.00
5 Tacoma Washington 221,112 3,488 18,500 15.77
6 Kansas City Missouri 512,582 7,365 23,485 14.37
7 Rockford Illinois 147,919 2,095 3,836 14.16
8 St. Louis Missouri 295,932 4,205 20,654 14.21
9 Cleveland Ohio 371,219 5,393 13,867 14.53
10 Springfield Missouri 171,321 2,292 7,936 13.38
11 Albuquerque New Mexico 570,266 7,442 24,826 13.05
12 Lansing Michigan 112,764 1,422 3,101 12.61
13 Peoria Illinois 112,469 1,307 3,469 11.62
14 Baltimore Maryland 583,588 7,041 16,542 12.07
15 Stockton California 324,962 3,721 8,789 11.45
16 Minneapolis Minnesota 429,292 5,130 21,897 11.95
17 Dayton Ohio 138,434 1,600 5,842 11.56
18 Chattanooga Tennessee 183,687 2,084 9,511 11.35
19 Aurora Colorado 397,092 4,402 16,581 11.09
20 Milwaukee Wisconsin 573,020 6,595 15,446 11.51
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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 04:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:53 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:49 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  My next door neighbor has had his work truck broken into twice in the last month. At 6:30 in the morning this last time. I’ve had several relatives had their car stolen at restaurants on Poplar. Know about 3 or 4 that have been carjacked at different Krogers while trying to get gas. I’ve even witnessed a shooting on i40. I seriously doubt this is happening in Orlando FL as much or even in cities as big as Dallas or Houston. And don’t get me started on downtown which gets worse and worse with every passing day

Violent crime? Per the statistics, about half as much compared to Dallas. Personal anecdotes don't trump the facts. The data shows 2% will be victims of violent crime in Memphis versus 1% which is the national average. I'm not making these proclamations based on my "feels."

What a shock that the guy who think students walk to the Liberty Bowl, and ESPN is about to go out of business, also can't read crime stats. https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dan...e_vignette

The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2023 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes in 2022 (Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault).
The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Memphis, Detroit, Little Rock, Pueblo, Tacoma, Kansas City, Rockford, St. Louis, Cleveland and Springfield.

Rank City State Population
(2022 Estimates) Violent Crimes
(2022) Property Crimes
(2022) Violent Crimes (2023) per 1000 person

1 Memphis Tennessee 632,040 13,091 37,074 20.71
2 Detroit Michigan 635,276 12,724 25,005 20.03
3 Little Rock Arkansas 203,503 3,694 10,760 18.15
4 Pueblo Colorado 113,287 1,813 7,118 16.00
5 Tacoma Washington 221,112 3,488 18,500 15.77
6 Kansas City Missouri 512,582 7,365 23,485 14.37
7 Rockford Illinois 147,919 2,095 3,836 14.16
8 St. Louis Missouri 295,932 4,205 20,654 14.21
9 Cleveland Ohio 371,219 5,393 13,867 14.53
10 Springfield Missouri 171,321 2,292 7,936 13.38
11 Albuquerque New Mexico 570,266 7,442 24,826 13.05
12 Lansing Michigan 112,764 1,422 3,101 12.61
13 Peoria Illinois 112,469 1,307 3,469 11.62
14 Baltimore Maryland 583,588 7,041 16,542 12.07
15 Stockton California 324,962 3,721 8,789 11.45
16 Minneapolis Minnesota 429,292 5,130 21,897 11.95
17 Dayton Ohio 138,434 1,600 5,842 11.56
18 Chattanooga Tennessee 183,687 2,084 9,511 11.35
19 Aurora Colorado 397,092 4,402 16,581 11.09
20 Milwaukee Wisconsin 573,020 6,595 15,446 11.51

Those stats are based on population size. Not saying Memphis isn't dangerous but don't go walking other cities like LA and Chicago and think you're safe. I'm sure LA and Chicago homicide numbers are probably double or more of Memphis without looking it up but guess who is not on the list.
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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 04:30 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 04:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:53 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:49 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  My next door neighbor has had his work truck broken into twice in the last month. At 6:30 in the morning this last time. I’ve had several relatives had their car stolen at restaurants on Poplar. Know about 3 or 4 that have been carjacked at different Krogers while trying to get gas. I’ve even witnessed a shooting on i40. I seriously doubt this is happening in Orlando FL as much or even in cities as big as Dallas or Houston. And don’t get me started on downtown which gets worse and worse with every passing day

Violent crime? Per the statistics, about half as much compared to Dallas. Personal anecdotes don't trump the facts. The data shows 2% will be victims of violent crime in Memphis versus 1% which is the national average. I'm not making these proclamations based on my "feels."

What a shock that the guy who think students walk to the Liberty Bowl, and ESPN is about to go out of business, also can't read crime stats. https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dan...e_vignette

The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2023 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes in 2022 (Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault).
The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Memphis, Detroit, Little Rock, Pueblo, Tacoma, Kansas City, Rockford, St. Louis, Cleveland and Springfield.

Rank City State Population
(2022 Estimates) Violent Crimes
(2022) Property Crimes
(2022) Violent Crimes (2023) per 1000 person

1 Memphis Tennessee 632,040 13,091 37,074 20.71
2 Detroit Michigan 635,276 12,724 25,005 20.03
3 Little Rock Arkansas 203,503 3,694 10,760 18.15
4 Pueblo Colorado 113,287 1,813 7,118 16.00
5 Tacoma Washington 221,112 3,488 18,500 15.77
6 Kansas City Missouri 512,582 7,365 23,485 14.37
7 Rockford Illinois 147,919 2,095 3,836 14.16
8 St. Louis Missouri 295,932 4,205 20,654 14.21
9 Cleveland Ohio 371,219 5,393 13,867 14.53
10 Springfield Missouri 171,321 2,292 7,936 13.38
11 Albuquerque New Mexico 570,266 7,442 24,826 13.05
12 Lansing Michigan 112,764 1,422 3,101 12.61
13 Peoria Illinois 112,469 1,307 3,469 11.62
14 Baltimore Maryland 583,588 7,041 16,542 12.07
15 Stockton California 324,962 3,721 8,789 11.45
16 Minneapolis Minnesota 429,292 5,130 21,897 11.95
17 Dayton Ohio 138,434 1,600 5,842 11.56
18 Chattanooga Tennessee 183,687 2,084 9,511 11.35
19 Aurora Colorado 397,092 4,402 16,581 11.09
20 Milwaukee Wisconsin 573,020 6,595 15,446 11.51

Those stats are based on population size. Not saying Memphis isn't dangerous but don't go walking other cities like LA and Chicago and think you're safe. I'm sure LA and Chicago homicide numbers are probably double or more of Memphis without looking it up but guess who is not on the list.

Of course the stats are per capita, as most population stats are. And you can use the link to look up LA or Chicago if you wish.

20 citizens per 1,000 being the victims of reported violent crimes per year is horrific. The other guy was acting like this was a rounding statistic, not a huge problem, which is BS.
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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 03:49 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:44 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:39 PM)msu35 Wrote:  What I find genuinely confusing is how people delude themselves into believing Memphis is so dangerous to live in, to the point they can't stop freaking out about it. So we're all to believe that having a 98% chance (Memphis) of not being a victim of violent crime is so much worse than having a 99% chance (national average) of not being a victim of violent crime? Ridiculous.

It's time to face the facts. Having a 1% greater chance of being a victim of violent crime compared to the national average is nothing to be worried about, but keep living in misguided fear. Keep tearing down and demonizing our city. Stay salty.

You don't get it. The rest of the state believes the MPD is a corrupt, drug-dealing organization. It may not be true, but the rest of the state believes it. It is a huge problem and it hurts the Memphis economy every single day. You can quote statistics all day. Are you changing anyone's mind that way? Not here, and not anywhere else either.

Bury your head in the sand if you want. Say it's all not true if you want. At the end of the day, the rest of the state and the surrounding areas think Memphis is a crime-ridden cesspool. If I knew how to change that, I'd tell you. I don't.

My next door neighbor has had his work truck broken into twice in the last month. At 6:30 in the morning this last time. I’ve had several relatives had their car stolen at restaurants on Poplar. Know about 3 or 4 that have been carjacked at different Krogers while trying to get gas. I’ve even witnessed a shooting on i40. I seriously doubt this is happening in Orlando FL as much or even in cities as big as Dallas or Houston. And don’t get me started on downtown which gets worse and worse with every passing day

It most definitely is happening in Orlando, Dallas and Houston. In fact it's happening in Nashville and Chattanooga, so much so that TN has 3 of the Top 25 most dangerous cities (depending on the list referenced).
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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 04:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:53 PM)msu35 Wrote:  Violent crime? Per the statistics, about half as much compared to Dallas. Personal anecdotes don't trump the facts. The data shows 2% will be victims of violent crime in Memphis versus 1% which is the national average. I'm not making these proclamations based on my "feels."

What a shock that the guy who think students walk to the Liberty Bowl, and ESPN is about to go out of business, also can't read crime stats. https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dan...e_vignette

Your insecurity shines through so brightly. All you ever have are lies or the dumbest take possible. This post reflects both, and the numbers you regurgitated do little more than confirm what I've already stated. A person has a 98% chance of not being victim of violent crime in Memphis. Not very scary -- I like the odds.

Edit: You're probably not bright enough to do the math, so I'll show my work. 20.71 / 1000 = 0.02 (2%)

(08-29-2023 04:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2023 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes in 2022 (Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault).
The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Memphis, Detroit, Little Rock, Pueblo, Tacoma, Kansas City, Rockford, St. Louis, Cleveland and Springfield.

Rank City State Population
(2022 Estimates) Violent Crimes
(2022) Property Crimes
(2022) Violent Crimes (2023) per 1000 person

1 Memphis Tennessee 632,040 13,091 37,074 20.71
2 Detroit Michigan 635,276 12,724 25,005 20.03
3 Little Rock Arkansas 203,503 3,694 10,760 18.15
4 Pueblo Colorado 113,287 1,813 7,118 16.00
5 Tacoma Washington 221,112 3,488 18,500 15.77
6 Kansas City Missouri 512,582 7,365 23,485 14.37
7 Rockford Illinois 147,919 2,095 3,836 14.16
8 St. Louis Missouri 295,932 4,205 20,654 14.21
9 Cleveland Ohio 371,219 5,393 13,867 14.53
10 Springfield Missouri 171,321 2,292 7,936 13.38
11 Albuquerque New Mexico 570,266 7,442 24,826 13.05
12 Lansing Michigan 112,764 1,422 3,101 12.61
13 Peoria Illinois 112,469 1,307 3,469 11.62
14 Baltimore Maryland 583,588 7,041 16,542 12.07
15 Stockton California 324,962 3,721 8,789 11.45
16 Minneapolis Minnesota 429,292 5,130 21,897 11.95
17 Dayton Ohio 138,434 1,600 5,842 11.56
18 Chattanooga Tennessee 183,687 2,084 9,511 11.35
19 Aurora Colorado 397,092 4,402 16,581 11.09
20 Milwaukee Wisconsin 573,020 6,595 15,446 11.51
(This post was last modified: 08-29-2023 05:42 PM by msu35.)
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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 05:40 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 04:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:53 PM)msu35 Wrote:  Violent crime? Per the statistics, about half as much compared to Dallas. Personal anecdotes don't trump the facts. The data shows 2% will be victims of violent crime in Memphis versus 1% which is the national average. I'm not making these proclamations based on my "feels."

What a shock that the guy who think students walk to the Liberty Bowl, and ESPN is about to go out of business, also can't read crime stats. https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dan...e_vignette

Your insecurity shines through so brightly. All you ever have are lies or the dumbest take possible. This post reflects both, and the numbers you regurgitated do little more than confirm what I've already stated. A person has a 98% chance of not being victim of violent crime in Memphis. Not very scary -- I like the odds.

Edit: You're probably not bright enough to do the math, so I'll show my work. 20.71 / 1000 = 0.02 (2%)

(08-29-2023 04:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2023 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes in 2022 (Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault).
The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Memphis, Detroit, Little Rock, Pueblo, Tacoma, Kansas City, Rockford, St. Louis, Cleveland and Springfield.

Rank City State Population
(2022 Estimates) Violent Crimes
(2022) Property Crimes
(2022) Violent Crimes (2023) per 1000 person

1 Memphis Tennessee 632,040 13,091 37,074 20.71
2 Detroit Michigan 635,276 12,724 25,005 20.03
3 Little Rock Arkansas 203,503 3,694 10,760 18.15
4 Pueblo Colorado 113,287 1,813 7,118 16.00
5 Tacoma Washington 221,112 3,488 18,500 15.77
6 Kansas City Missouri 512,582 7,365 23,485 14.37
7 Rockford Illinois 147,919 2,095 3,836 14.16
8 St. Louis Missouri 295,932 4,205 20,654 14.21
9 Cleveland Ohio 371,219 5,393 13,867 14.53
10 Springfield Missouri 171,321 2,292 7,936 13.38
11 Albuquerque New Mexico 570,266 7,442 24,826 13.05
12 Lansing Michigan 112,764 1,422 3,101 12.61
13 Peoria Illinois 112,469 1,307 3,469 11.62
14 Baltimore Maryland 583,588 7,041 16,542 12.07
15 Stockton California 324,962 3,721 8,789 11.45
16 Minneapolis Minnesota 429,292 5,130 21,897 11.95
17 Dayton Ohio 138,434 1,600 5,842 11.56
18 Chattanooga Tennessee 183,687 2,084 9,511 11.35
19 Aurora Colorado 397,092 4,402 16,581 11.09
20 Milwaukee Wisconsin 573,020 6,595 15,446 11.51

So, you’re saying crime statistics in Palo Alto vs crime statistics in Memphis is their deciding factor?
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(08-29-2023 06:01 PM)micman Wrote:  So, you’re saying crime statistics in Palo Alto vs crime statistics in Memphis is their deciding factor?

Nah, I'm sure it has more to do with academics and not wanting to join a G5 conference than anything else.
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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 05:40 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 04:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 03:53 PM)msu35 Wrote:  Violent crime? Per the statistics, about half as much compared to Dallas. Personal anecdotes don't trump the facts. The data shows 2% will be victims of violent crime in Memphis versus 1% which is the national average. I'm not making these proclamations based on my "feels."

What a shock that the guy who think students walk to the Liberty Bowl, and ESPN is about to go out of business, also can't read crime stats. https://www.populationu.com/gen/most-dan...e_vignette

Your insecurity shines through so brightly. All you ever have are lies or the dumbest take possible. This post reflects both, and the numbers you regurgitated do little more than confirm what I've already stated. A person has a 98% chance of not being victim of violent crime in Memphis. Not very scary -- I like the odds.

Edit: You're probably not bright enough to do the math, so I'll show my work. 20.71 / 1000 = 0.02 (2%)

(08-29-2023 04:12 PM)Tigx Wrote:  The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2023 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes in 2022 (Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault).
The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Memphis, Detroit, Little Rock, Pueblo, Tacoma, Kansas City, Rockford, St. Louis, Cleveland and Springfield.

Rank City State Population
(2022 Estimates) Violent Crimes
(2022) Property Crimes
(2022) Violent Crimes (2023) per 1000 person

1 Memphis Tennessee 632,040 13,091 37,074 20.71
2 Detroit Michigan 635,276 12,724 25,005 20.03
3 Little Rock Arkansas 203,503 3,694 10,760 18.15
4 Pueblo Colorado 113,287 1,813 7,118 16.00
5 Tacoma Washington 221,112 3,488 18,500 15.77
6 Kansas City Missouri 512,582 7,365 23,485 14.37
7 Rockford Illinois 147,919 2,095 3,836 14.16
8 St. Louis Missouri 295,932 4,205 20,654 14.21
9 Cleveland Ohio 371,219 5,393 13,867 14.53
10 Springfield Missouri 171,321 2,292 7,936 13.38
11 Albuquerque New Mexico 570,266 7,442 24,826 13.05
12 Lansing Michigan 112,764 1,422 3,101 12.61
13 Peoria Illinois 112,469 1,307 3,469 11.62
14 Baltimore Maryland 583,588 7,041 16,542 12.07
15 Stockton California 324,962 3,721 8,789 11.45
16 Minneapolis Minnesota 429,292 5,130 21,897 11.95
17 Dayton Ohio 138,434 1,600 5,842 11.56
18 Chattanooga Tennessee 183,687 2,084 9,511 11.35
19 Aurora Colorado 397,092 4,402 16,581 11.09
20 Milwaukee Wisconsin 573,020 6,595 15,446 11.51

Cleaning up msu35's nonsense requires a full-time poster. Alas, I am only pop in here once in a while, so I can only do so much. Others will have to pitch in for the good of the board. I've always said there should be an IQ requirement added for this board.

Like msu35 telling eagle over and over that the difference between Dallas and Memphis is only 1%! What are we getting excited about?

What msu35 either doesn't understand or is obfuscating is that difference means for every murder, rape robbery . . . that Dallas has per capita, Memphis has two. So it's actually 100% more. And it's closer to 3 times as many than 2. Which is why Dallas, at 7.70 violent crimes per 1,000 residents per year, is ranked 53rd on the most dangerous cities list. And Memphis, sadly, is 1st in the country with a terrible 20.70 reported violent crimes per 1,000 citizens per year.
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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 06:52 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Cleaning up msu35's nonsense requires a full-time poster. Alas, I am only pop in here once in a while, so I can only do so much. Others will have to pitch in for the good of the board. I've always said there should be an IQ requirement added for this board.

You continually demonstrate a complete lack of reading comprehension. 2% chance of being a victim in Memphis versus 1% chance in Dallas. No kidding, twice as likely in Memphis. That was never in dispute. Are you too ignorant to realize that the difference between 2% and 1% is 1%? Furthermore, only the the most gullible fool would consider a difference of 1% to be significant. Keep posting, though. It continues to demonstrate your lack of critical thinking skills.

You probably need for me to show you how things are calculated again since you apparently don't comprehend basic arithmetic. 0.02 - 0.01 = 0.01 (1%) [Imagine that.]
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RE: PAC-12?
(08-29-2023 07:03 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(08-29-2023 06:52 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Cleaning up msu35's nonsense requires a full-time poster. Alas, I am only pop in here once in a while, so I can only do so much. Others will have to pitch in for the good of the board. I've always said there should be an IQ requirement added for this board.

You continually demonstrate a complete lack of reading comprehension. 2% chance of being a victim in Memphis versus 1% chance in Dallas. No kidding, twice as likely in Memphis. That was never in dispute. Are you too ignorant to realize that the difference between 2% and 1% is 1%? Furthermore, only the the most gullible fool would consider a difference of 1% to be significant. Keep posting, though. It continues to demonstrate your lack of critical thinking skills.

You probably need for me to show you how things are calculated again since you apparently don't comprehend basic arithmetic. 0.02 - 0.01 = 0.01 (1%) [Imagine that.]

Now msu35's feelings are hurt again. Apparently pointing out that Memphis crime is 2 and 1/2 times worse than Dallas crime touched a nerve. Two more neg ratings.

I've always thought it took a certain kind of effeminate poster to neg rate another poster. So, yeah, fits perfectly that msu35 neg rates other posters all the time, lol.
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