(07-25-2023 06:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 04:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 01:33 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  The entire potential suggested by this article is just another chapter of the city using our university for what the city wants, in this case to keep the Grizzlies happy. But based upon the premise of the state support voted to help our university (there was virtually no state political support voiced in support of keeping the Grizzlies happy), I'm thinking the university could demand an acceptable portion of the funds be guaranteed for the LB through state action - if the university is willing to be aggressive (not likely). Or better yet have the state funding apportioned & designated for either LB upgrades or set aside directly for an OCS - at the discretion of the university.

One thing for certain, state funding usage has been very quiet since approved.

You said the school never lobbied, the city and the city never lobbied the state...then argued the exact opposite, then there wouldn't be money, it wouldn't be approved, it would be done cheaply...

Quote:The entire potential suggested by this article is just another chapter of the city using our university for what the city wants

Now you are back on track. Happiness.

Still lying & embellishing - I have never said anything about the city not lobbying the state (it's the city's job to lobby) & my statement above clearly said the university "could..." & further stated "not likely..." I understand that's a nuisance in your world of misstatement & embellishment but I suppose you have to find something to argue about since you have no clue about discussion & how it differs.

The same tired nonsense. The school took 20 years to build a $12.2 million IPF, and you are blaming the school for not building an OCS? The city screwed the school with the Pyramid, but otherwise, the city has had absolutely ZERO to do with us not having an OCS. It is squarely on the fanbase not being able to afford it.

Continue on with the mindless rant.

(07-25-2023 11:15 AM)micman Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 11:02 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Anyone remember the Pyramid and the amenities it was supposed to feature…
glass outdoor elevator
Hard Rock Cafe
Completely interactive
Holograms
Theme parks

& the university had 18 million burning a hole in its pocket that it had been gifted by the state to construct an on-campus basketball facility… that it foolishly handed over to the city.

The Pyramid ended up being built on the cheap & few of the promises made were kept.

Dover built the elevator. The city ended up not paying for it, so they never installed it.
Good Ol Sidney.

Don't go laying the problems with the pyramid on Sidney.

The final design was not his but that of a to be remain unnamed political connected family.

If his original design and capacity was used we would've never had to build the Forum.

moreover, it's not just the Univ of Memphis...it's also the Liberty Bowl game...the SHC...and the Showboats that want the stadium renovations.

(07-25-2023 06:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 06:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 04:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 01:33 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  The entire potential suggested by this article is just another chapter of the city using our university for what the city wants, in this case to keep the Grizzlies happy. But based upon the premise of the state support voted to help our university (there was virtually no state political support voiced in support of keeping the Grizzlies happy), I'm thinking the university could demand an acceptable portion of the funds be guaranteed for the LB through state action - if the university is willing to be aggressive (not likely). Or better yet have the state funding apportioned & designated for either LB upgrades or set aside directly for an OCS - at the discretion of the university.

One thing for certain, state funding usage has been very quiet since approved.

You said the school never lobbied, the city and the city never lobbied the state...then argued the exact opposite, then there wouldn't be money, it wouldn't be approved, it would be done cheaply...

Quote:The entire potential suggested by this article is just another chapter of the city using our university for what the city wants

Now you are back on track. Happiness.

Still lying & embellishing - I have never said anything about the city not lobbying the state (it's the city's job to lobby) & my statement above clearly said the university "could..." & further stated "not likely..." I understand that's a nuisance in your world of misstatement & embellishment but I suppose you have to find something to argue about since you have no clue about discussion & how it differs.

The same tired nonsense. The school took 20 years to build a $12.2 million IPF, and you are blaming the school for not building an OCS? The city screwed the school with the Pyramid, but otherwise, the city has had absolutely ZERO to do with us not having an OCS. It is squarely on the fanbase not being able to afford it.

Continue on with the mindless rant.

... and the same predictable deflection.

(07-25-2023 07:05 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 11:15 AM)micman Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 11:02 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Anyone remember the Pyramid and the amenities it was supposed to feature…
glass outdoor elevator
Hard Rock Cafe
Completely interactive
Holograms
Theme parks

& the university had 18 million burning a hole in its pocket that it had been gifted by the state to construct an on-campus basketball facility… that it foolishly handed over to the city.

The Pyramid ended up being built on the cheap & few of the promises made were kept.

Dover built the elevator. The city ended up not paying for it, so they never installed it.
Good Ol Sidney.

Don't go laying the problems with the pyramid on Sidney.

The final design was not his but that of a to be remain unnamed political connected family.

If his original design and capacity was used we would've never had to build the Forum.

there was no getting the Pyramid up to NBA standards...just wasn't going to happen.

I blame the school for not making the case for an oncampus stadium years ago & aggressively lobbying for it. Instead, the school immediately nixed the Heery report & has sat on their proverbial hands for the past 15 years. Honestly, had it not been for the Titans lobbying the state for a new stadium, there would be no stadium improvements.

#pisspoorleadership

(07-25-2023 07:55 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I blame the school for not making the case for an oncampus stadium years ago & aggressively lobbying for it. Instead, the school immediately nixed the Heery report & has sat on their proverbial hands for the past 15 years. Honestly, had it not been for the Titans lobbying the state for a new stadium, there would be no stadium improvements.

#pisspoorleadership

I think it's more like we're just piss poor...stadiums be expensive mane.

(07-25-2023 07:58 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:55 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I blame the school for not making the case for an oncampus stadium years ago & aggressively lobbying for it. Instead, the school immediately nixed the Heery report & has sat on their proverbial hands for the past 15 years. Honestly, had it not been for the Titans lobbying the state for a new stadium, there would be no stadium improvements.

#pisspoorleadership

I think it's more like we're just piss poor...stadiums be expensive mane.

Apparently improvements to pretty new arenas are even more expensive....

(07-25-2023 08:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:58 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:55 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I blame the school for not making the case for an oncampus stadium years ago & aggressively lobbying for it. Instead, the school immediately nixed the Heery report & has sat on their proverbial hands for the past 15 years. Honestly, had it not been for the Titans lobbying the state for a new stadium, there would be no stadium improvements.

#pisspoorleadership

I think it's more like we're just piss poor...stadiums be expensive mane.

Apparently improvements to pretty new arenas are even more expensive....

you ain't kidding...it's still a nice arena as is.

(07-25-2023 08:20 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 08:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:58 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:55 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I blame the school for not making the case for an oncampus stadium years ago & aggressively lobbying for it. Instead, the school immediately nixed the Heery report & has sat on their proverbial hands for the past 15 years. Honestly, had it not been for the Titans lobbying the state for a new stadium, there would be no stadium improvements.

#pisspoorleadership

I think it's more like we're just piss poor...stadiums be expensive mane.

Apparently improvements to pretty new arenas are even more expensive....

you ain't kidding...it's still a nice arena as is.

Recently voted best in the NBA I hear.

(07-25-2023 07:16 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  moreover, it's not just the Univ of Memphis...it's also the Liberty Bowl game...the SHC...and the Showboats that want the stadium renovations.

For the grizzlies to keep all that money for themselves would be a huge slap in the face to each and every one of those entities. The Liberty bowl has not had a significant makeover since 1963 when it was built. Yet Calkins makes the point that the grizzlies can hold the city hostage with the threat to move. If true, what a bunch of tools.

(07-25-2023 07:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 06:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 06:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 04:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 01:33 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  The entire potential suggested by this article is just another chapter of the city using our university for what the city wants, in this case to keep the Grizzlies happy. But based upon the premise of the state support voted to help our university (there was virtually no state political support voiced in support of keeping the Grizzlies happy), I'm thinking the university could demand an acceptable portion of the funds be guaranteed for the LB through state action - if the university is willing to be aggressive (not likely). Or better yet have the state funding apportioned & designated for either LB upgrades or set aside directly for an OCS - at the discretion of the university.

One thing for certain, state funding usage has been very quiet since approved.

You said the school never lobbied, the city and the city never lobbied the state...then argued the exact opposite, then there wouldn't be money, it wouldn't be approved, it would be done cheaply...

Quote:The entire potential suggested by this article is just another chapter of the city using our university for what the city wants

Now you are back on track. Happiness.

Still lying & embellishing - I have never said anything about the city not lobbying the state (it's the city's job to lobby) & my statement above clearly said the university "could..." & further stated "not likely..." I understand that's a nuisance in your world of misstatement & embellishment but I suppose you have to find something to argue about since you have no clue about discussion & how it differs.

The same tired nonsense. The school took 20 years to build a $12.2 million IPF, and you are blaming the school for not building an OCS? The city screwed the school with the Pyramid, but otherwise, the city has had absolutely ZERO to do with us not having an OCS. It is squarely on the fanbase not being able to afford it.

Continue on with the mindless rant.

... and the same predictable deflection.

Most aren't as thick as you are.

(07-25-2023 07:55 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I blame the school for not making the case for an oncampus stadium years ago & aggressively lobbying for it. Instead, the school immediately nixed the Heery report & has sat on their proverbial hands for the past 15 years. Honestly, had it not been for the Titans lobbying the state for a new stadium, there would be no stadium improvements.

#pisspoorleadership

It's a shame Rudd and Martin weren't around in 2007. We would have that stadium.

(07-25-2023 08:43 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:16 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  moreover, it's not just the Univ of Memphis...it's also the Liberty Bowl game...the SHC...and the Showboats that want the stadium renovations.

For the grizzlies to keep all that money for themselves would be a huge slap in the face to each and every one of those entities. The Liberty bowl has not had a significant makeover since 1963 when it was built. Yet Calkins makes the point that the grizzlies can hold the city hostage with the threat to move. If true, what a bunch of tools.

the 1989 expansion 19 million along with Tiger Lane were good upgrades...but it needs more.

(07-25-2023 08:44 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 06:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 06:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 04:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  You said the school never lobbied, the city and the city never lobbied the state...then argued the exact opposite, then there wouldn't be money, it wouldn't be approved, it would be done cheaply...


Now you are back on track. Happiness.

Still lying & embellishing - I have never said anything about the city not lobbying the state (it's the city's job to lobby) & my statement above clearly said the university "could..." & further stated "not likely..." I understand that's a nuisance in your world of misstatement & embellishment but I suppose you have to find something to argue about since you have no clue about discussion & how it differs.

The same tired nonsense. The school took 20 years to build a $12.2 million IPF, and you are blaming the school for not building an OCS? The city screwed the school with the Pyramid, but otherwise, the city has had absolutely ZERO to do with us not having an OCS. It is squarely on the fanbase not being able to afford it.

Continue on with the mindless rant.

... and the same predictable deflection.

Most aren't as thick as you are.

Still the personal insults & inability to discuss the subject - predictable.

(07-25-2023 09:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 08:44 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 06:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 06:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Still lying & embellishing - I have never said anything about the city not lobbying the state (it's the city's job to lobby) & my statement above clearly said the university "could..." & further stated "not likely..." I understand that's a nuisance in your world of misstatement & embellishment but I suppose you have to find something to argue about since you have no clue about discussion & how it differs.

The same tired nonsense. The school took 20 years to build a $12.2 million IPF, and you are blaming the school for not building an OCS? The city screwed the school with the Pyramid, but otherwise, the city has had absolutely ZERO to do with us not having an OCS. It is squarely on the fanbase not being able to afford it.

Continue on with the mindless rant.

... and the same predictable deflection.

Most aren't as thick as you are.

Still the personal insults & inability to discuss the subject - predictable.

Tell the cool story for the 1,000th time about how Rudd, Brad Martin and Bowen are examples of weak leadership and are bending over for the city. Tell the cool story for the 1,000th time about how Fred Smith, Graf, Laurie, Bronczek, the Byrds are in it for personal gain and don't care about the university. We can't get enough of how smart you are and how everyone at the university is so weak, dumb and docile.

And call me a canuck again. Quite the closer you are.

(07-25-2023 09:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 09:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 08:44 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 06:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  The same tired nonsense. The school took 20 years to build a $12.2 million IPF, and you are blaming the school for not building an OCS? The city screwed the school with the Pyramid, but otherwise, the city has had absolutely ZERO to do with us not having an OCS. It is squarely on the fanbase not being able to afford it.

Continue on with the mindless rant.

... and the same predictable deflection.

Most aren't as thick as you are.

Still the personal insults & inability to discuss the subject - predictable.

Tell the cool story for the 1,000th time about how Rudd, Brad Martin and Bowen are examples of weak leadership and are bending over for the city. Tell the cool story for the 1,000th time about how Fred Smith, Graf, Laurie, Bronczek, the Byrds are in it for personal gain and don't care about the university. We can't get enough of how smart you are and how everyone at the university is so weak, dumb and docile.

And call me a canuck again. Quite the closer you are.

It just dawned on me why you can't stay on subject. I'm your subject, you follow me around with an off subject comment or insult with every post. No one wants to hear your crap. Just like memtigbb said, 'Stammers is the worst poster on this board, runs off the good posters'. But I think it's more than that, it's a compulsive illness. Get some help, man!

(07-25-2023 10:10 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 09:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 09:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 08:44 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 07:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  ... and the same predictable deflection.

Most aren't as thick as you are.

Still the personal insults & inability to discuss the subject - predictable.

Tell the cool story for the 1,000th time about how Rudd, Brad Martin and Bowen are examples of weak leadership and are bending over for the city. Tell the cool story for the 1,000th time about how Fred Smith, Graf, Laurie, Bronczek, the Byrds are in it for personal gain and don't care about the university. We can't get enough of how smart you are and how everyone at the university is so weak, dumb and docile.

And call me a canuck again. Quite the closer you are.

It just dawned on me why you can't stay on subject. I'm your subject, you follow me around with an off subject comment or insult with every post. No one wants to hear your crap. Just like memtigbb said, 'Stammers is the worst poster on this board, runs off the good posters'. But I think it's more than that, it's a compulsive illness. Get some help, man!

Everyone wants to hear you go on and on and on about how the leadership sucks, and both coaches suck, and how the school's biggest boosters care more about personal gain than the good of the university.

Quote:The entire potential suggested by this article is just another chapter of the city using our university for what the city wants

You haven't made this exact same post 10,000 times. It is our imagination, and we all love it.

(07-25-2023 10:19 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 10:10 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 09:53 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 09:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2023 08:44 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Most aren't as thick as you are.

Still the personal insults & inability to discuss the subject - predictable.

Tell the cool story for the 1,000th time about how Rudd, Brad Martin and Bowen are examples of weak leadership and are bending over for the city. Tell the cool story for the 1,000th time about how Fred Smith, Graf, Laurie, Bronczek, the Byrds are in it for personal gain and don't care about the university. We can't get enough of how smart you are and how everyone at the university is so weak, dumb and docile.

And call me a canuck again. Quite the closer you are.

It just dawned on me why you can't stay on subject. I'm your subject, you follow me around with an off subject comment or insult with every post. No one wants to hear your crap. Just like memtigbb said, 'Stammers is the worst poster on this board, runs off the good posters'. But I think it's more than that, it's a compulsive illness. Get some help, man!

Everyone wants to hear you go on and on and on about how the leadership sucks, and both coaches suck, and how the school's biggest boosters care more about personal gain than the good of the university.

Quote:The entire potential suggested by this article is just another chapter of the city using our university for what the city wants

You haven't made this exact same post 10,000 times. It is our imagination, and we all love it.

Apparently you do, you keep repeating it.

please mommie

wake me up