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Sports journalism is and was an oxymoron, generally.
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Syracuse Univ. used to be a breeding ground for journalism and broadcasting. I'm guessing it still is ? How much longer does that last for ?
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(07-20-2023 01:31 AM)TomorrowHerd Wrote:  Journalism is dead.
Journalists killed it.

When reporters reporting the news, turned to journalists telling us what they think the news is... was the death of the profession.

True, but the death of newspapers and magazines and the rise of digital media and blogs which dont pay you as much as old media did didnt help them either. Remember the old show on ESPN on Sunday called the Sports Reporters ? They had the top columnists from the top newspapers in the country on there. Those guys were like rock stars. Making high 6 figure salaries and maybe even higher. Theres no modern or current equivalent of that.
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(07-20-2023 08:38 AM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  Syracuse Univ. used to be a breeding ground for journalism and broadcasting. I'm guessing it still is ? How much longer does that last for ?

The writer of the article discusses this.

The Syracuse programs are still there in reorganised form, as you will see.
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(07-20-2023 08:40 AM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  True, but the death of newspapers and magazines and the rise of digital media and blogs which dont pay you as much as old media did didnt help them either. Remember the old show on ESPN on Sunday called the Sports Reporters ? They had the top columnists from the top newspapers in the country on there. Those guys were like rock stars. Making high 6 figure salaries and maybe even higher. Theres no modern or current equivalent of that.

We've been well served by Sports Illustrated, Grantland, The Athletic, Deadspin, and other publications the author names. The really tough part today is sustaining quality, for reasons the article explores.
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(07-19-2023 08:23 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  The problem with the quality of sports journalism is instantaneous social media rewards those with the most inflaming headlines that rile people up when the reality of 99% situations is nuanced and writers who write their stories reflecting that nuance don't get run as it's comparatively "boring".

As a result, the quality of sports journalism today is a cesspool.

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Agreed very little in depth coverage...mostly scratch the surface at best, stupid ad laden clickbait at worst
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(07-20-2023 08:38 AM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  Syracuse Univ. used to be a breeding ground for journalism and broadcasting. I'm guessing it still is ? How much longer does that last for ?

As long as upper middle class parents can afford the nut.

Syracuse offers a great Sports Mangement Degree heavy on analytics as an option.
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(07-19-2023 08:30 AM)ken d Wrote:  It's not just sports journalism that is dying. That I can live with, since most sports coverage is aimed at fans who are by definition biased already. And if the sports "journalist" gets it wrong, the consequences for society are minor.

But all journalism is dying, and the blood is on our hands. We are killing it with our own intellectual laziness. And the weapon we are using is technology. How many people now exclusively get their news (and I use that term loosely) from CNN, MSNBC and FOX News, all of which are purely propaganda outlets for one and only one point of view (opinion, actually) or from social media? How many consider Wikipedia to be an authoritative source for "information" without realizing that what they are reading is not subject to any independent editorial review?

Partisans have always spread misinformation as part of their stock in trade. In the 21st century, they now have the technical ability to spread it at breakneck speed, and to target audiences chosen with surgical precision. I wish we could reverse these terrible trends, but I'm afraid we will never be able to put that toothpaste back in the tube. I feel sorry for future generations, and guilty that my generation has been the great enabler. Technology offered great promise as a way to improve our lives. But what it has delivered hasn't lived up to that promise.

Future generations will be better-prepared to deal with the huge amount of misinformation available. Our problem today is that many of us grew up with the expectation that if Peter Jennings or Walter Cronkite said it, it was probably accurate. Our descendants will be properly skeptical of unverified or unverifiable information because they'll have to sift through a LOT more information even than we do today. Most of us grew up with newsprint on our fingers b/c that was how we learned about what was going on in the world.
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(07-19-2023 08:33 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 07:06 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Not sure if there is a good way out for the writers. The fact of the matter is, the barrier of entry is way too low now. It's not like you need a printing press and a huge distribution network anymore. Anyone can start being a sports journalist this afternoon if they want.

Big Game Boomer rage-baiting gets more traffic than some of these accomplished journalists.

Actually, I firmly believe that quality journalism has a very *high* barrier to entry - it takes a lot of financial resources, time, training and cultivation of sources and relationships.

To your point, the problem is that our world has shown by viewership and reader data that they click on or watch hot take opinions as much or more than quality journalism… and hot take opinions have ZERO barrier to entry. Hence, the corporate ROI metrics unfortunately totally reward the junk food diet of having incendiary opinion writers and talk show hosts than it does to cultivate quality journalism.

This is an issue that I’ve been worried about for a very long time. Before focusing on conference realignment, I recall writing on my blog 15 years ago about my concerns about the changes in ownership at the Chicago Tribune and how they were gutting the journalist staff. (It has gotten diabolically worse as the Tribune has changed ownership multiple times more since that time and has turned what was once a great newspaper of record into a fraction of what it used to be.) I could see the writing on the wall back then: talk is cheap and real journalism is expensive, which meant that soulless corporations would be incentivized to invest in cheap talk.

It’s honestly pretty dejecting that The Athletic has had to scale back so much. If it can’t realize its potential with the New York Times as an owner and one of the few organizations left that still invests in real quality journalism, then who can?

I have many of the same feelings as JRsec’s wife. I used to read the Chicago Tribune the first thing every single day and it started back when I first learned to read as a kid. I still keep a digital subscription around out of habit, but I can’t remember the last time that I went to it as a first instinct in the morning. It has all switched to the New York Times and Wall Street Journal for me, which are still both quality journalism organizations, but leaves a glaring hole in local news coverage. We’re talking about Chicago, a massive market that has superficially still has two major dailies but the local coverage between those two has been totally gutted… and if the local paper is just recycling AP wire stories (as JRsec mentioned) without local coverage, then they totally lose their value.

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(07-20-2023 09:04 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(07-20-2023 08:40 AM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  True, but the death of newspapers and magazines and the rise of digital media and blogs which dont pay you as much as old media did didnt help them either. Remember the old show on ESPN on Sunday called the Sports Reporters ? They had the top columnists from the top newspapers in the country on there. Those guys were like rock stars. Making high 6 figure salaries and maybe even higher. Theres no modern or current equivalent of that.

We've been well served by Sports Illustrated, Grantland, The Athletic, Deadspin, and other publications the author names. The really tough part today is sustaining quality, for reasons the article explores.
The top writers of Sports Illustrated, Grantland, The Athletic, Deadspin dont make nearly the amount of money that the top sports columnists of the Boston Globe, New York Times, Washington Post, Detroit Free Press, Chicago Tribune, LA Times made in their heyday.
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(07-19-2023 08:52 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 07:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 05:08 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  I'm glad to see Grantland mentioned. I miss that one.

Quality writing—humane, perceptive. The writers were able to spend more time putting their thoughts together than they usually get. Readers won.

07-coffee3

Have you ever heard of Furman Bisher? He was a long time sports columnist for the AJC before Barnhardt grew in popularity in his absence. He wasn't as artful in his descriptions as Grantland Rice but he was a must read Southern voice on Southern Sports.

People wake up today and wonder how corporations gained so much control over their lives. They bought and closed so many wonderful companies and smaller corporations that people loved. They buy what is successful, trim what they call the fat, and lose all the flavor of uniqueness in the process. They are ultimately responsible for the universal blandness of our lives.

Most Americans don't realize there was a time when newspapers gave free coverage to candidates as part of civic responsibility. Yes they would charge for a campaign add, but covering campaigns and debates evenhandedly was a huge draw for their own business. Lay out the statements and arguments, don't take sides and let the people decide. If a paper endorsed a candidate, it was with the editorial section. Corporations bought the newspapers, edited them not for accuracy or for quality of language and readability, but for information which might be sensitive to their stock values. And there's no use arguing that with me as I know the process and observed it nightly. Evenhandedness died there!

Now our local paper is being gutted. 90% of it is cut and paste from the AP and most articles simply aren't relevant to the reader and it is dying. Meanwhile my wife, once an avid reader of the paper, canceled her subscription. My jaw almost hit the floor. She wasn't alive without her breakfast tea and paper. When she let it go, it was awful. Awful in reliable delivery, awful in writing, awful in the use of language, awful in typos, and awful in subject material. As a pragmatist I'm content when lazy and awful businesses die. But in our worse than "brave new world" the local blog she goes to is a pile of unsubstantiated vox populi opinion. It's worse than the awful paper! A lie spreads faster there than at any information source previously and at the core of this technological nightmare is something even worse than that. We have a public so bereft of writing skills and a good vocabulary that anything longer than one short paragraph gets a TLDR. To enjoy good writing, you have to have a good vocabulary, be able to recognize sarcasm, puns, or quotes so famous that people see them everywhere and know why they are famous (which means a common base of knowledge), and because we no longer have a common base of knowledge such quotes are no longer relevant or recognizable. In short education has played a role in this quandary. Education's' product is worse. A plethora of banal readers enables a swath of banal writers and a cadre of banal corporations to "trim the fat" of more expensive creativity, panache, and unique local flavor, and turn that profit by gutting all that is worthy and replacing it with the cut and paste AP story on the cheap.

What I'm saying is it's not one cause, it's both the chicken and the egg, and that hackneyed reference may be googled by the young who didn't know their egg came from a bird and can't relate that to the order of the creation of something, in this case causation of decline.

"But in our worse than "brave new world" the local blog she goes to is a pile of unsubstantiated vox populi opinion."

To your point, I wonder how many people today even get the reference to that phrase. STEM has a valuable place in our education system, but not at the expense of educational tools that teach us critical thinking skills.

I actually skipped that year in English, though I know that Aldous Huxley wrote it and it's about a dystopian future. 1984 is a fun one for me, not least b/c of the super cool McIntosh commercial from 1984 about 1984 (yes, I went there).
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(07-19-2023 09:09 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 08:52 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 07:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 05:08 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  I'm glad to see Grantland mentioned. I miss that one.

Quality writing—humane, perceptive. The writers were able to spend more time putting their thoughts together than they usually get. Readers won.

07-coffee3

Have you ever heard of Furman Bisher? He was a long time sports columnist for the AJC before Barnhardt grew in popularity in his absence. He wasn't as artful in his descriptions as Grantland Rice but he was a must read Southern voice on Southern Sports.

People wake up today and wonder how corporations gained so much control over their lives. They bought and closed so many wonderful companies and smaller corporations that people loved. They buy what is successful, trim what they call the fat, and lose all the flavor of uniqueness in the process. They are ultimately responsible for the universal blandness of our lives.

Most Americans don't realize there was a time when newspapers gave free coverage to candidates as part of civic responsibility. Yes they would charge for a campaign add, but covering campaigns and debates evenhandedly was a huge draw for their own business. Lay out the statements and arguments, don't take sides and let the people decide. If a paper endorsed a candidate, it was with the editorial section. Corporations bought the newspapers, edited them not for accuracy or for quality of language and readability, but for information which might be sensitive to their stock values. And there's no use arguing that with me as I know the process and observed it nightly. Evenhandedness died there!

Now our local paper is being gutted. 90% of it is cut and paste from the AP and most articles simply aren't relevant to the reader and it is dying. Meanwhile my wife, once an avid reader of the paper, canceled her subscription. My jaw almost hit the floor. She wasn't alive without her breakfast tea and paper. When she let it go, it was awful. Awful in reliable delivery, awful in writing, awful in the use of language, awful in typos, and awful in subject material. As a pragmatist I'm content when lazy and awful businesses die. But in our worse than "brave new world" the local blog she goes to is a pile of unsubstantiated vox populi opinion. It's worse than the awful paper! A lie spreads faster there than at any information source previously and at the core of this technological nightmare is something even worse than that. We have a public so bereft of writing skills and a good vocabulary that anything longer than one short paragraph gets a TLDR. To enjoy good writing, you have to have a good vocabulary, be able to recognize sarcasm, puns, or quotes so famous that people see them everywhere and know why they are famous (which means a common base of knowledge), and because we no longer have a common base of knowledge such quotes are no longer relevant or recognizable. In short education has played a role in this quandary. Education's' product is worse. A plethora of banal readers enables a swath of banal writers and a cadre of banal corporations to "trim the fat" of more expensive creativity, panache, and unique local flavor, and turn that profit by gutting all that is worthy and replacing it with the cut and paste AP story on the cheap.

What I'm saying is it's not one cause, it's both the chicken and the egg, and that hackneyed reference may be googled by the young who didn't know their egg came from a bird and can't relate that to the order of the creation of something, in this case causation of decline.

"But in our worse than "brave new world" the local blog she goes to is a pile of unsubstantiated vox populi opinion."

To your point, I wonder how many people today even get the reference to that phrase. STEM has a valuable place in our education system, but not at the expense of educational tools that teach us critical thinking skills.

Idioms like icons always come down in a culture war. To destroy the clarity of a word's meaning is to undermine the clarity of arguments against what the destroyer is seeking. When the meaning of words is attacked and/or altered as to confuse the original thought conveyed by that word when it was used in that civilization, it is the warning flare of a new dark age marked by the questioning of all language, it's breakdown which inevitably leads to a breakdown of law, beliefs, and principles, and is followed by a re-education which flips the culture. It is also the hallmark of a coming internal conflict or civil war within that nation between the protagonists and the establishment. In either outcome a severely weakened nation and culture is left to opportunists. People need to develop a Pavlovian response to the term "re-imagine". It means little to no consideration will be given to the way things are or the reasoning behind them, and that neophytes will be tearing it all down and reconstructing it based upon their own theories not yet tested in real life. In short KenD, chaos. And chaos in the ancient Hebrew world was the purest form of evil.

What you're describing could also be described as the natural evolution of language as younger generations start to use slang so much that the words become accepted usage in the official or "proper" version of the language. A "fag" used to be a cigarette, until it wasn't. "They" used to be plural, until one day we looked up and it could be singular, too. The changes are happening quite slowly now because it's so easy for someone in New York to remain in contact with a buddy in LA, another in Sydney, another in London, and a 4th in Mumbai, but the changes are still happening. Our language will continue to evolve, perhaps to the point that it would be tough to get around if you could freeze yourself in a time capsule for a couple hundred years. That's not a harbinger of the end of the world, it's just a harbinger of our continued evolution to "grumpy old men" from "young" and "middle aged".
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(07-20-2023 12:50 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 09:09 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 08:52 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 07:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 05:08 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  I'm glad to see Grantland mentioned. I miss that one.

Quality writing—humane, perceptive. The writers were able to spend more time putting their thoughts together than they usually get. Readers won.

07-coffee3

Have you ever heard of Furman Bisher? He was a long time sports columnist for the AJC before Barnhardt grew in popularity in his absence. He wasn't as artful in his descriptions as Grantland Rice but he was a must read Southern voice on Southern Sports.

People wake up today and wonder how corporations gained so much control over their lives. They bought and closed so many wonderful companies and smaller corporations that people loved. They buy what is successful, trim what they call the fat, and lose all the flavor of uniqueness in the process. They are ultimately responsible for the universal blandness of our lives.

Most Americans don't realize there was a time when newspapers gave free coverage to candidates as part of civic responsibility. Yes they would charge for a campaign add, but covering campaigns and debates evenhandedly was a huge draw for their own business. Lay out the statements and arguments, don't take sides and let the people decide. If a paper endorsed a candidate, it was with the editorial section. Corporations bought the newspapers, edited them not for accuracy or for quality of language and readability, but for information which might be sensitive to their stock values. And there's no use arguing that with me as I know the process and observed it nightly. Evenhandedness died there!

Now our local paper is being gutted. 90% of it is cut and paste from the AP and most articles simply aren't relevant to the reader and it is dying. Meanwhile my wife, once an avid reader of the paper, canceled her subscription. My jaw almost hit the floor. She wasn't alive without her breakfast tea and paper. When she let it go, it was awful. Awful in reliable delivery, awful in writing, awful in the use of language, awful in typos, and awful in subject material. As a pragmatist I'm content when lazy and awful businesses die. But in our worse than "brave new world" the local blog she goes to is a pile of unsubstantiated vox populi opinion. It's worse than the awful paper! A lie spreads faster there than at any information source previously and at the core of this technological nightmare is something even worse than that. We have a public so bereft of writing skills and a good vocabulary that anything longer than one short paragraph gets a TLDR. To enjoy good writing, you have to have a good vocabulary, be able to recognize sarcasm, puns, or quotes so famous that people see them everywhere and know why they are famous (which means a common base of knowledge), and because we no longer have a common base of knowledge such quotes are no longer relevant or recognizable. In short education has played a role in this quandary. Education's' product is worse. A plethora of banal readers enables a swath of banal writers and a cadre of banal corporations to "trim the fat" of more expensive creativity, panache, and unique local flavor, and turn that profit by gutting all that is worthy and replacing it with the cut and paste AP story on the cheap.

What I'm saying is it's not one cause, it's both the chicken and the egg, and that hackneyed reference may be googled by the young who didn't know their egg came from a bird and can't relate that to the order of the creation of something, in this case causation of decline.

"But in our worse than "brave new world" the local blog she goes to is a pile of unsubstantiated vox populi opinion."

To your point, I wonder how many people today even get the reference to that phrase. STEM has a valuable place in our education system, but not at the expense of educational tools that teach us critical thinking skills.

Idioms like icons always come down in a culture war. To destroy the clarity of a word's meaning is to undermine the clarity of arguments against what the destroyer is seeking. When the meaning of words is attacked and/or altered as to confuse the original thought conveyed by that word when it was used in that civilization, it is the warning flare of a new dark age marked by the questioning of all language, it's breakdown which inevitably leads to a breakdown of law, beliefs, and principles, and is followed by a re-education which flips the culture. It is also the hallmark of a coming internal conflict or civil war within that nation between the protagonists and the establishment. In either outcome a severely weakened nation and culture is left to opportunists. People need to develop a Pavlovian response to the term "re-imagine". It means little to no consideration will be given to the way things are or the reasoning behind them, and that neophytes will be tearing it all down and reconstructing it based upon their own theories not yet tested in real life. In short KenD, chaos. And chaos in the ancient Hebrew world was the purest form of evil.

What you're describing could also be described as the natural evolution of language as younger generations start to use slang so much that the words become accepted usage in the official or "proper" version of the language. A "fag" used to be a cigarette, until it wasn't. "They" used to be plural, until one day we looked up and it could be singular, too. The changes are happening quite slowly now because it's so easy for someone in New York to remain in contact with a buddy in LA, another in Sydney, another in London, and a 4th in Mumbai, but the changes are still happening. Our language will continue to evolve, perhaps to the point that it would be tough to get around if you could freeze yourself in a time capsule for a couple hundred years. That's not a harbinger of the end of the world, it's just a harbinger of our continued evolution to "grumpy old men" from "young" and "middle aged".
It doesn't matter the reason, the breakdown in the precision of language (specifically the meaning of words) is a benchmark in the decline of any civilization. That can be through the adoption of foreign terms, miss association of meaning due to hearing and spelling a word incorrectly eg "supposeably instead of supposedly" a common error among the generations who do not read and instead listen to information, the misappropriation of words in slang like the cigarette illustration you gave. Or by the intentional politicization of words.

The issue is it obscures the precise transmission of meaning from one generation to the next and therefore reasoning behind explanations be they scientific, historic, or political become subject to wholesale misinterpretation, either by accident or design. For instance, in the King James version of the Bible a Hebrew word more closely associated with manage was replaced by the English monarchical term, subdue. Therefore, God's instruction to Adam was to subdue nature, not manage it. I'd say that translation easily led to a wholly different mindset with regard to humanity's relationship to nature than was intended for the English-speaking people. and subsequently for any language group which translated the KJV version of the Bible.

Cultural maladaptation also occurs. The Christain understanding of passivity in the face of hostility is an example of that. A professor of Ancient Hebrew Law in Tel Aviv enlightened me as to its origins. When a civil case was called before the elders who sat at the gates of the city an accusation was leveled by the plaintiff taking the open palm of his right hand and striking lightly the cheek of the accused. He would then level whatever charge he was making. The accused could respond in one of two ways. They could use the open palm of their right hand to strike the accuser and accuse them of false accusation and then the elders would hear the case and render a decision, or they could turn their other cheek. The turning of the cheek stated their innocence before the highest court (God) and rendered all judgment unto the deity. In short for the sect that would become Pharisaical they were stating their life to come was forfeit if they lied. It wouldn't mean as much for those who would become Sadducees because they didn't believe in a life after death, but in early Hebrew life the concept of God's judgment being against one indicated catastrophe in this life or the next so it was a serious statement. And if the accuser still wanted to press charges the only way they could do so was to strike the turned cheek with the back of their right hand which placed the judgment of God against them because you are forbidden to strike someone with the back of your hand or with the left hand. This is why the gesture of turn the other cheek was final. It was never an act of passivity and it did not mean to allow someone to abuse you either by false accusation or striking. Failure to understand the origin has led people to believe that not defending themselves is a Christian act. It's not. It's cultural ignorance. And the following verse which says if someone compels you to go a mile with him go two. That is actually a means of humiliating the Roman soldier who could legally compel anyone to carry belongings for him for a mile. The act of going beyond that turns the act of the subservient conquered person into a statement of superiority. As it effectively says to the Roman I can handle anything you dish out and then some. There was nothing docile about either of those things which Christ told his disciples.

My point? How we use language, if imprecise, can change the meaning 180 degrees from what was intended and lead to needless pain and suffering. The stupid is on us! Not the instruction. The real danger is when the misunderstanding becomes wrote, is passed down in scholarly study not of the original language and culture in which it was issued, but of the present culture's misunderstanding, and thesis and dissertations are based upon it, and those with the PHD enter teaching at seminaries and law schools and predicate their careers on perpetuating what was a mistake. Pride and defense of status quo then sets in and ignorance is enshrined as truth. And it happens all the time whether it is history, geography (ignoring of ancient boundary markers), literature, and even science (though thankfully to a lesser degree).

Therefore, the breakdown in the meaning of words is a warning sign of the decline of a civilization because truth is precise, and anything else is less than the truth.
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(07-20-2023 12:39 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 08:33 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(07-19-2023 07:06 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Not sure if there is a good way out for the writers. The fact of the matter is, the barrier of entry is way too low now. It's not like you need a printing press and a huge distribution network anymore. Anyone can start being a sports journalist this afternoon if they want.

Big Game Boomer rage-baiting gets more traffic than some of these accomplished journalists.

Actually, I firmly believe that quality journalism has a very *high* barrier to entry - it takes a lot of financial resources, time, training and cultivation of sources and relationships.

To your point, the problem is that our world has shown by viewership and reader data that they click on or watch hot take opinions as much or more than quality journalism… and hot take opinions have ZERO barrier to entry. Hence, the corporate ROI metrics unfortunately totally reward the junk food diet of having incendiary opinion writers and talk show hosts than it does to cultivate quality journalism.

This is an issue that I’ve been worried about for a very long time. Before focusing on conference realignment, I recall writing on my blog 15 years ago about my concerns about the changes in ownership at the Chicago Tribune and how they were gutting the journalist staff. (It has gotten diabolically worse as the Tribune has changed ownership multiple times more since that time and has turned what was once a great newspaper of record into a fraction of what it used to be.) I could see the writing on the wall back then: talk is cheap and real journalism is expensive, which meant that soulless corporations would be incentivized to invest in cheap talk.

It’s honestly pretty dejecting that The Athletic has had to scale back so much. If it can’t realize its potential with the New York Times as an owner and one of the few organizations left that still invests in real quality journalism, then who can?

I have many of the same feelings as JRsec’s wife. I used to read the Chicago Tribune the first thing every single day and it started back when I first learned to read as a kid. I still keep a digital subscription around out of habit, but I can’t remember the last time that I went to it as a first instinct in the morning. It has all switched to the New York Times and Wall Street Journal for me, which are still both quality journalism organizations, but leaves a glaring hole in local news coverage. We’re talking about Chicago, a massive market that has superficially still has two major dailies but the local coverage between those two has been totally gutted… and if the local paper is just recycling AP wire stories (as JRsec mentioned) without local coverage, then they totally lose their value.

:jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop:

Ha! Simmer down!

It’s about how JRsec described her discontent with their local newspaper, where I also feel the exact same way.
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