MWC not accepting SDSU back has created an opening for the PAC to steal these timeslots.

MWC's Media Partner has a renegotiation trigger clause if SDSU leaves the conference. This can now be executed with MWC accepting the SDSU exit publicly and rejecting their whoopies.

MWC's Media Partner has the right to say the San Diego market is too great of a loss. Media Partner can say they need to reduce timeslot allotment and payout.

PAC can swoop in and fill those timeslots. Its been waiting for opportunities to add linear and the MWC may shoot themselves in the foot over pride and ego.

Its not tampering if you openly refuse to allow SDSU back into the conference and that has repercussions of their own.

(MWC's Trigger Clause from Mark Zeigler’s 365 interview at about 12:30 mark)
https://youtu.be/F0EiTIMRaLQ

There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

Boise State had 4 games on CBS and Fox last year against notable MWC opponents. SDSU did not have that many games on OTA broadcast. If Boise State leaves? Then the MWC's media deal would be in big trouble. That is why the P5 needs to add the strongest G5 schools to make them weaker.

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

What about the BSU games? Aren't some exclusive to FS1? DavidSt in the house?

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

https://themw.com/documents/2020/1/9//MW..._Sheet.pdf

ANNUAL FOOTBALL COVERAGE

CBS Networks:
• 23 games on linear CBS or CBSSN.
• Minimum of three (3) games annually on CBS.
• Maximum of five (5) Friday windows, not including special dates.
• Ten (10) additional games available for CBS All Access or linear carriage.
• First seven (7) picks of MW-controlled games, then alternating selection with FOX.
• Rights to all Boise State Conference road games.

FOX Networks:
• MW Football Championship Game on FOX or FS1. Game can be played Friday or Saturday.
• 16-23 regular-season games.
• Minimum of seven (7) games annually on FOX or FS1.
• Maximum of five (5) Friday windows, not including special dates.
• Rights to all Boise State home games.
• Maximum of four (4) Hawai’i games may be selected collectively by the two networks each year.

Broadcast Windows:
• Saturday Kick-Off: 11:00 a.m. to 7:45 p.m. (FOX)/8:00 p.m. (CBS) local time.
• Friday Kick-Off: 5:30 p.m. to 7:45 p.m. (FOX)/8:00 p.m. (CBS) local time.

(07-05-2023 10:23 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

What about the BSU games? Aren't some exclusive to FS1? DavidSt in the house?

Those are the 4 games I talked about that the average tv ratings for Boise State is 1.49 million.
Fresno State
Utah State
Air Force
Fresno State

Their game against SDSU was below 1 million. San Diego State does not get the draw like Fresno State, Air Force and Utah State against Boise State. Boise State Vs. BYU on ESPN the year before drew close to 2 million viewers. That is why BYU and Boise State are rivals that do bring the eyeballs if the Big 12 do add them.

(07-05-2023 10:10 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  MWC not accepting SDSU back has created an opening for the PAC to steal these timeslots.

MWC's Media Partner has a renegotiation trigger clause if SDSU leaves the conference. This can now be executed with MWC accepting the SDSU exit publicly and rejecting their whoopies.

MWC's Media Partner has the right to say the San Diego market is too great of a loss. Media Partner can say they need to reduce timeslot allotment and payout.

PAC can swoop in and fill those timeslots. Its been waiting for opportunities to add linear and the MWC may shoot themselves in the foot over pride and ego.

Its not tampering if you openly refuse to allow SDSU back into the conference and that has repercussions of their own.

(MWC's Trigger Clause from Mark Zeigler’s 365 interview at about 12:30 mark)
https://youtu.be/F0EiTIMRaLQ

They will do it if they can cut costs, but in reality, what were the ratings of San Diego State games?

(07-05-2023 10:38 AM)jacksfan29! Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:10 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  MWC not accepting SDSU back has created an opening for the PAC to steal these timeslots.

MWC's Media Partner has a renegotiation trigger clause if SDSU leaves the conference. This can now be executed with MWC accepting the SDSU exit publicly and rejecting their whoopies.

MWC's Media Partner has the right to say the San Diego market is too great of a loss. Media Partner can say they need to reduce timeslot allotment and payout.

PAC can swoop in and fill those timeslots. Its been waiting for opportunities to add linear and the MWC may shoot themselves in the foot over pride and ego.

Its not tampering if you openly refuse to allow SDSU back into the conference and that has repercussions of their own.

(MWC's Trigger Clause from Mark Zeigler’s 365 interview at about 12:30 mark)
https://youtu.be/F0EiTIMRaLQ

They will do it if they can cut costs, but in reality, what were the ratings of San Diego State games?

Not that good. Boise State is now the top G5 school with the ratings outside of Army and Navy.
Fresno State is right there behind them.
Memphis is third
SMU is forth.
Air Force is 5th
Tulane is 6th
Utah State is 7th
SDSU is 8th
UNR is 9th
Then you have schools like UTSA, App State, Troy, Liberty and Coastal Carolina who were all winning as well.

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

Yeah, more accurately stated it would be talking about stealing CBSSN/FS1 time slots aside from maybe a handful of games at most on CBS/FOX.

(07-05-2023 10:33 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

https://themw.com/documents/2020/1/9//MW..._Sheet.pdf

ANNUAL FOOTBALL COVERAGE

CBS Networks:
• 23 games on linear CBS or CBSSN.
• Minimum of three (3) games annually on CBS.
• Maximum of five (5) Friday windows, not including special dates.
• Ten (10) additional games available for CBS All Access or linear carriage.
• First seven (7) picks of MW-controlled games, then alternating selection with FOX.
• Rights to all Boise State Conference road games.

FOX Networks:
• MW Football Championship Game on FOX or FS1. Game can be played Friday or Saturday.
• 16-23 regular-season games.
• Minimum of seven (7) games annually on FOX or FS1.
• Maximum of five (5) Friday windows, not including special dates.
• Rights to all Boise State home games.
• Maximum of four (4) Hawai’i games may be selected collectively by the two networks each year.

Broadcast Windows:
• Saturday Kick-Off: 11:00 a.m. to 7:45 p.m. (FOX)/8:00 p.m. (CBS) local time.
• Friday Kick-Off: 5:30 p.m. to 7:45 p.m. (FOX)/8:00 p.m. (CBS) local time.

I am not sure that is accurate. The MWC sells a Boise home package and the conference package. I don’t think CBS get Boise away games automatically. I do think they pick them in their top 7 picks often.

CBS gets first pick and since Fox owns Boise Home games and Boise is our top football brand, CBS typically picks Boise away games. CBS also has an affinity for the Academies and will almost always pick any home academy game.

Typically CBS will choose
* Any big brand at home. Like UCLA at SDSU, Texas Tech @ Wyoming
* Boise games on the road
* AF Academy home games.

Fresno has historically been a favorite of Fox and ESPN and will be chosen more by those carriers. Typically they like you can start the game at 7:30 pm pst and Fresno fans don’t care. Even with no TV they would likely start at 7:00 pm as the heat is gone and the farmers can all attend. We had to do one game at noon for UConn and people got heat stroke. This year is more balanced but typically it is about 2-1 or even 3-1.

(07-05-2023 11:21 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:33 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

https://themw.com/documents/2020/1/9//MW..._Sheet.pdf

ANNUAL FOOTBALL COVERAGE

CBS Networks:
• 23 games on linear CBS or CBSSN.
• Minimum of three (3) games annually on CBS.
• Maximum of five (5) Friday windows, not including special dates.
• Ten (10) additional games available for CBS All Access or linear carriage.
• First seven (7) picks of MW-controlled games, then alternating selection with FOX.
• Rights to all Boise State Conference road games.

FOX Networks:
• MW Football Championship Game on FOX or FS1. Game can be played Friday or Saturday.
• 16-23 regular-season games.
• Minimum of seven (7) games annually on FOX or FS1.
• Maximum of five (5) Friday windows, not including special dates.
• Rights to all Boise State home games.
• Maximum of four (4) Hawai’i games may be selected collectively by the two networks each year.

Broadcast Windows:
• Saturday Kick-Off: 11:00 a.m. to 7:45 p.m. (FOX)/8:00 p.m. (CBS) local time.
• Friday Kick-Off: 5:30 p.m. to 7:45 p.m. (FOX)/8:00 p.m. (CBS) local time.

I am not sure that is accurate. The MWC sells a Boise home package and the conference package. I don’t think CBS get Boise away games automatically. I do think they pick them in their top 7 picks often.

CBS gets first pick and since Fox owns Boise Home games and Boise is our top football brand, CBS typically picks Boise away games. CBS also has an affinity for the Academies and will almost always pick any home academy game.

Typically CBS will choose
* Any big brand at home. Like UCLA at SDSU, Texas Tech @ Wyoming
* Boise games on the road
* AF Academy home games.

Fresno has historically been a favorite of Fox and ESPN and will be chosen more by those carriers. Typically they like you can start the game at 7:30 pm pst and Fresno fans don’t care. Even with no TV they would likely start at 7:00 pm as the heat is gone and the farmers can all attend. We had to do one game at noon for UConn and people got heat stroke. This year is more balanced but typically it is about 2-1 or even 3-1.

ESPN gets the Boise State's away games when they had rights to BYU home games.

(07-05-2023 10:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:23 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

What about the BSU games? Aren't some exclusive to FS1? DavidSt in the house?

Those are the 4 games I talked about that the average tv ratings for Boise State is 1.49 million.
Fresno State
Utah State
Air Force
Fresno State

Their game against SDSU was below 1 million. San Diego State does not get the draw like Fresno State, Air Force and Utah State against Boise State. Boise State Vs. BYU on ESPN the year before drew close to 2 million viewers. That is why BYU and Boise State are rivals that do bring the eyeballs if the Big 12 do add them.

Let’s be honest. People move to San Diego and pick SDSU as a school for a reason. If it’s a Saturday and the weather is nice they are probably at the beach or the park….. if they are a young man they might take the trolley to TJ. But they likely aren’t in their home.

If it’s Fresno in August/September/early Oct they may go to the mountains and on the lake but more likely they are home in the air conditioning if it’s a day game or the game is at night to avoid the heat.

It’s so ironic the same people who talk about Big 12 attendance and viewership versus the PAC-12, then talk about SDSU being the “biggest football” brand. Big 12 vs PAC and Fresno versus SDSU is exactly the same dynamic! People in CA jokingly and derisively call the Central Valley greater Oklahoma because it is……

The Pac’s problem isn’t an inability to “steal” MWC broadcast timeslots. It can take whatever timeslots it wants from the MWC. The Pac’s problem is that the networks that pay the MWC $4 million per school per year to fill those timeslots aren’t about to pay the Pac anything close to $30 million per school per year to occupy them instead.

(07-05-2023 10:44 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:38 AM)jacksfan29! Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:10 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  MWC not accepting SDSU back has created an opening for the PAC to steal these timeslots.

MWC's Media Partner has a renegotiation trigger clause if SDSU leaves the conference. This can now be executed with MWC accepting the SDSU exit publicly and rejecting their whoopies.

MWC's Media Partner has the right to say the San Diego market is too great of a loss. Media Partner can say they need to reduce timeslot allotment and payout.

PAC can swoop in and fill those timeslots. Its been waiting for opportunities to add linear and the MWC may shoot themselves in the foot over pride and ego.

Its not tampering if you openly refuse to allow SDSU back into the conference and that has repercussions of their own.

(MWC's Trigger Clause from Mark Zeigler’s 365 interview at about 12:30 mark)
https://youtu.be/F0EiTIMRaLQ

They will do it if they can cut costs, but in reality, what were the ratings of San Diego State games?

Not that good. Boise State is now the top G5 school with the ratings outside of Army and Navy.
Fresno State is right there behind them.
Memphis is third
SMU is forth.
Air Force is 5th
Tulane is 6th
Utah State is 7th
SDSU is 8th
UNR is 9th
Then you have schools like UTSA, App State, Troy, Liberty and Coastal Carolina who were all winning as well.

The fact of the matter is, the AAC#1 and the AAC#2 will always have more viewers than Boise State, every year.
Sure, Boise State will have more viewers than the other mwc teams.
The "why" behind both those statements is exactly the same: it's the TV deals. Boise gets better timeslots from the mwc's network partners than any of their conference mates, therefore more viewers. The AAC's contract is so far above the other four non-contract-bowl conferences that once those ABC and ESPN slots go to whomever is performing well and highly ranked and getting NY6/CFP buzz, the top AAC schools will leave Boise et al in the dust. That is regardless of the name attached to AAC#1 and AAC#2, and it will continue on after the recent departures. (And Navy will look pretty close to Boise in what we deliver to the conference contract, then blow them away with total viewers.) Let's take a look...

2022 - Conf deal viewers -- total viewers (non-bowl)
Tulane 6,938,000 -- 6,938,000
Navy 3,639,000 -- 10,574,000
Boise St 4,549,000 -- 5,799,000

2021 - Conf deal viewers -- total viewers (non-bowl)
Cincinnati 12,532,000 -- 18,018,000
Navy 3,034,000 -- 12,472,000
Houston 6,201,000 -- 6,201,000
Boise St 4,802,000 -- 7,887,000
Tulane 3,962,000 -- 4,312,000

2021 was the only year that the top two AAC viewership teams were both from the departing three...it was also the only year that the CCG was between two of the departing three (equalling the number of CCGs between two of the remaining eight). Before anyone tries to say "well, they're Big12 now, don't count them for the AAC," they were playing AAC schedules on the AAC contract and in the AAC CCG. It had near-zero to do with them being on their way out/up. I also added 2-10 Tulane for additional context.

2020 - Conf deal viewers -- total viewers (non-bowl)
Cincinnati 7,814,000 -- 7,814,000
Tulsa 4,446,000 -- 6,176,000
Tulane 3,646,000 -- 4,162,000
Navy 3,403,000 -- 8,313,000
Boise 3,441,000 -- 3,441,000

Not only champ/NY6/departing Cincinnati, but CCG opponent Tulsa AND Tulane thumped Boise. Navy was within 38,000 in delivering to conference contract, before Army-Navy comes in. But slh, 2020 was COVID-weird...

2019 - Conf deal viewers -- total viewers (non-bowl)
Memphis 11,666,000 -- 11,666,000
Cincinnati 7,640,000 -- 10,580,000
Navy 1,883,000 -- 11,163,000
Boise 5,175,000 -- 6,936,000
SMU 3,894,000 -- 4,304,000

I added SMU here, too, since the SMU-Memphis game doubled up anything Boise had. 2019 also allows us to forestall another DavidSt delusion: this was in the old mwc-ESPN deal. Boise got boatraced by multiple AAC teams even on the old deal.

As far as the Boise-BYU games, here are their viewers for the last 5 years:
2022 - 281,000 (FS2)
2021 - 2,224,000 (ABC)
2020 - 680,000 (FS1)
2019 - 571,000 (ESPN2)
2018 - 470,000 (ESPN2)
Five-year average of 845,000
That 2021 number on ABC stands out obviously. That was OTA 3:30 ET slot, and it is...good. Third place in its timeslot. If Disney REALLY thought that highly, they wouldn't put it on ESPN2 so often.

Now, DavidSt is probably looking at some aggregation of multiple years, putting Boise ahead of multiple remaining AAC teams. Yes, one of my major points is that AAC top viewership is whoever is on top of the standings and gets those choice timeslots, so it isn't one team all the time, like the mwc is Boise all the time. That is a GOOD thing for the American in terms of current exposure, future media deals, and the next couple years of NY6/CFP jockeying. But I will grant that having been the mwc media deals' special child provides Boise advantages over individual mwc and AAC schools with a quick look. If the decision makers take a longer deeper look Boise's star keeps fading.

(07-05-2023 10:22 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

Boise State had 4 games on CBS and Fox last year against notable MWC opponents. SDSU did not have that many games on OTA broadcast. If Boise State leaves? Then the MWC's media deal would be in big trouble. That is why the P5 needs to add the strongest G5 schools to make them weaker.

That's not what https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Boise...tball_team shows. Black Friday at noon Eastern, 10:00 am local vs Utah State on CBS, and the CCG on Fox.

For comparison, SDSU had one CBS game when Arizona came to town. (also their stadium opener for Snapdragon Stadium, but I doubt CBS cared too much about that, they were just trying to burn off their MWC OTA commitment)

(07-05-2023 10:44 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:38 AM)jacksfan29! Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:10 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  MWC not accepting SDSU back has created an opening for the PAC to steal these timeslots.

MWC's Media Partner has a renegotiation trigger clause if SDSU leaves the conference. This can now be executed with MWC accepting the SDSU exit publicly and rejecting their whoopies.

MWC's Media Partner has the right to say the San Diego market is too great of a loss. Media Partner can say they need to reduce timeslot allotment and payout.

PAC can swoop in and fill those timeslots. Its been waiting for opportunities to add linear and the MWC may shoot themselves in the foot over pride and ego.

Its not tampering if you openly refuse to allow SDSU back into the conference and that has repercussions of their own.

(MWC's Trigger Clause from Mark Zeigler’s 365 interview at about 12:30 mark)
https://youtu.be/F0EiTIMRaLQ

They will do it if they can cut costs, but in reality, what were the ratings of San Diego State games?

Not that good. Boise State is now the top G5 school with the ratings outside of Army and Navy.
Fresno State is right there behind them.
Memphis is third
SMU is forth.
Air Force is 5th
Tulane is 6th
Utah State is 7th
SDSU is 8th
UNR is 9th
Then you have schools like UTSA, App State, Troy, Liberty and Coastal Carolina who were all winning as well.

And these ratings can be transitory for some of these teams. You win alot you get better slots which yield better ratings.

(07-09-2023 10:19 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:22 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:19 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There's not much to steal. MWC only has 3 games on CBS and CCG on FOX.

Boise State had 4 games on CBS and Fox last year against notable MWC opponents. SDSU did not have that many games on OTA broadcast. If Boise State leaves? Then the MWC's media deal would be in big trouble. That is why the P5 needs to add the strongest G5 schools to make them weaker.

That's not what https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Boise...tball_team shows. Black Friday at noon Eastern, 10:00 am local vs Utah State on CBS, and the CCG on Fox.

For comparison, SDSU had one CBS game when Arizona came to town. (also their stadium opener for Snapdragon Stadium, but I doubt CBS cared too much about that, they were just trying to burn off their MWC OTA commitment)

This post, along with -- I think -- answering himself in the post quoted below was just so confusing that I put it aside in my other response about Boise's viewership being over-rated.

(07-05-2023 10:34 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Those are the 4 games I talked about that the average tv ratings for Boise State is 1.49 million.
Fresno State
Utah State
Air Force
Fresno State

Their game against SDSU was below 1 million. San Diego State does not get the draw like Fresno State, Air Force and Utah State against Boise State. Boise State Vs. BYU on ESPN the year before drew close to 2 million viewers. That is why BYU and Boise State are rivals that do bring the eyeballs if the Big 12 do add them.

You're correct JohnBragg that the first two appear to be talking about 2022 (two, not four).
I honestly can't find BSU-AF or a different Boise-Fresno game on CBS or Fox under the current contract.
He skipped a 2021 Boise-Utah State game on CBS that got only 804,000.
He is upside down on SDSU: 2021 SDSU-BSU on CBS Black Friday got 1,950,000 -- more than the game he's bragging about.
There was also the 2020 CCG vs SJSU on Fox that did 1,420,000.
The 5 BSU games OTA under the current contract DID average around a million and a half. But that's not really bragging territory for OTA. Better than the numerous mwc OTA games that come up short of a million, sure, but Boise has one of those too. And how much better has that been than CBS lifting USAFA-hosted CiC Trophy games from CBSSN to CBS?

That's my attempt at explaining

(07-05-2023 10:44 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:38 AM)jacksfan29! Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:10 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  MWC not accepting SDSU back has created an opening for the PAC to steal these timeslots.

MWC's Media Partner has a renegotiation trigger clause if SDSU leaves the conference. This can now be executed with MWC accepting the SDSU exit publicly and rejecting their whoopies.

MWC's Media Partner has the right to say the San Diego market is too great of a loss. Media Partner can say they need to reduce timeslot allotment and payout.

PAC can swoop in and fill those timeslots. Its been waiting for opportunities to add linear and the MWC may shoot themselves in the foot over pride and ego.

Its not tampering if you openly refuse to allow SDSU back into the conference and that has repercussions of their own.

(MWC's Trigger Clause from Mark Zeigler’s 365 interview at about 12:30 mark)
https://youtu.be/F0EiTIMRaLQ

They will do it if they can cut costs, but in reality, what were the ratings of San Diego State games?

Not that good. Boise State is now the top G5 school with the ratings outside of Army and Navy.
Fresno State is right there behind them.
Memphis is third
SMU is forth.
Air Force is 5th
Tulane is 6th
Utah State is 7th
SDSU is 8th
UNR is 9th
Then you have schools like UTSA, App State, Troy, Liberty and Coastal Carolina who were all winning as well.

nope.

For one, you are cherry picking. Boise St typically has good tv numbers only when they are playing an opponent who draws very well on tv AND they are playing a later timeslot with little to no other game competition.

For example, on 10/08/2022 Boise St and Fresno drew 345K in the 9:45pm slot wit hno other competition.

Memphis -Houston drew 700K in the 7:30pm slot, going head to head against
1. TexasAM Alabama in the 8pm slot
2. BYU/Notre Dame
3. Clemson / Boston College
4. Washington St / USC
5. Iowa / Illinois

Both Boise and Memphis played Utah St. Boise played them on a Friday noon game and got the 1.4million number. Memphis played them on a tuesday afternoon and got 2.2million.

Boise tv numbers last year were fairly horrible. They only drew 1 million for their bowl game. Their game again BYU only got 241K in prime time. Earlier that same day Memphis/UCF drew in 321K. Memphis even drew 500K playing a game against Tulsa.

The deal is, the AAC teams show that they can outdraw Boise St significantly. This past year Memphis wasnt great. Good but not great. Boise St was the conference champion. Yet Memphis could still outdraw them. As SlhNavy posted, in 2019 when Memphis was conference champion, they drew almost 2.5 times what Boise drew this year.

I've said, ever since Uscla left, that the Pac needed to add 2 central time zone AAC teams that can draw eyeballs from ground zero of college football viewership. SDSU could be a future project, but what would solve some of the PAC's issues with football quality AND viewers would be teams like SMU/Memphis. Or go the B12 route and do SMU/Memphis/Tulane/Usf.

(07-10-2023 02:25 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:44 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:38 AM)jacksfan29! Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 10:10 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  MWC not accepting SDSU back has created an opening for the PAC to steal these timeslots.

MWC's Media Partner has a renegotiation trigger clause if SDSU leaves the conference. This can now be executed with MWC accepting the SDSU exit publicly and rejecting their whoopies.

MWC's Media Partner has the right to say the San Diego market is too great of a loss. Media Partner can say they need to reduce timeslot allotment and payout.

PAC can swoop in and fill those timeslots. Its been waiting for opportunities to add linear and the MWC may shoot themselves in the foot over pride and ego.

Its not tampering if you openly refuse to allow SDSU back into the conference and that has repercussions of their own.

(MWC's Trigger Clause from Mark Zeigler’s 365 interview at about 12:30 mark)
https://youtu.be/F0EiTIMRaLQ

They will do it if they can cut costs, but in reality, what were the ratings of San Diego State games?

Not that good. Boise State is now the top G5 school with the ratings outside of Army and Navy.
Fresno State is right there behind them.
Memphis is third
SMU is forth.
Air Force is 5th
Tulane is 6th
Utah State is 7th
SDSU is 8th
UNR is 9th
Then you have schools like UTSA, App State, Troy, Liberty and Coastal Carolina who were all winning as well.

nope.

For one, you are cherry picking. Boise St typically has good tv numbers only when they are playing an opponent who draws very well on tv AND they are playing a later timeslot with little to no other game competition.

For example, on 10/08/2022 Boise St and Fresno drew 345K in the 9:45pm slot wit hno other competition.

Memphis -Houston drew 700K in the 7:30pm slot, going head to head against
1. TexasAM Alabama in the 8pm slot
2. BYU/Notre Dame
3. Clemson / Boston College
4. Washington St / USC
5. Iowa / Illinois

Both Boise and Memphis played Utah St. Boise played them on a Friday noon game and got the 1.4million number. Memphis played them on a tuesday afternoon and got 2.2million.

Boise tv numbers last year were fairly horrible. They only drew 1 million for their bowl game. Their game again BYU only got 241K in prime time. Earlier that same day Memphis/UCF drew in 321K. Memphis even drew 500K playing a game against Tulsa.

The deal is, the AAC teams show that they can outdraw Boise St significantly. This past year Memphis wasnt great. Good but not great. Boise St was the conference champion. Yet Memphis could still outdraw them. As SlhNavy posted, in 2019 when Memphis was conference champion, they drew almost 2.5 times what Boise drew this year.

I've said, ever since Uscla left, that the Pac needed to add 2 central time zone AAC teams that can draw eyeballs from ground zero of college football viewership. SDSU could be a future project, but what would solve some of the PAC's issues with football quality AND viewers would be teams like SMU/Memphis. Or go the B12 route and do SMU/Memphis/Tulane/Usf.

Fox sports put the Byu at Boise State's game on FS2 which is in a lot less households. ESPN had that game on the ESPN which drew the numbers over 1 million.