Yeah...,you guys need to respect your elders. You wouldn't be here except for us!

(07-06-2023 05:33 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  Yeah...,you guys need to respect your elders. You wouldn't be here except for us!

ref: sig line 3...

for those with sigs turned off ... "with the age of 'importance', one can only hope for humility and respect ... then one realizes they are still breathing"

Its not easy building a conference...3 of us have been doing it since 2001. The cost...ULM and stAte had to change their mascot....Louisiana held to change the name of their whole dang university.....

Man, if you think about it, us OG’s have been here a long time and this conference has come a long way.

(07-06-2023 06:31 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Man, if you think about it, us OG’s have been here a long time and this conference has come a long way.

If you remember North Texas won conference the first year with an overall 5-6 record. 5-1 in conference. Lost their bowl game. 5-7. MTSU was 8-3. 5-1 in conference. Lost to, you guessed it. UNT. But you know we had all wandered here and there for while so it was nice to be somewhere we hoped would lead to good things. Over the years it has and getting better.

(07-06-2023 02:01 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 01:43 PM)Johnnychimpo Wrote:  

(07-05-2023 05:09 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  Think of this 2013 Sun Belt map and realize anything is possible. Clearly a ton of luck but a bunch of folks played every card just right.

Time goes by insanely quick in 10 years. After 10 years and all of the addition and subtraction since then it's really weird thinking of GSU, USA and TXST as 3 of the founding 7 SBC reorg football members now that we are at 14. Also weird to think of Atlanta as the furthermost eastern coordinate.

There's only 3 teams left from the original SBC Football League that started in 2001. Amazing when you think about it. That was only 22 years ago, and there's only 3 of us left.

C-USA wins the title for turnovers, and I also mean in the standings

(07-03-2023 02:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  There will be some good teams come from this group. Its just SBC is a better league as far as the goals of our group. I think our group wants to build. Most of those schools want to leave. CUSA and AAC have always had that mindset. I think the fans of our schools from there think they have found a place to build. I hope the administrators feel the same.

From the time Cincy, UL, and USF were recruited into the Big East, there has been jealousy and maneuvering in CUSA, and then it happened again with the whore four in 2012 and the three wannabes in 2013, and again again last year. And since some of those teams moved up and out of the eventual AAC into the P5, all of them think they're next and they don't care about making their conference better and cohesive. It's all who can get the first ticket out. It should just be the CC, Cutthroat Conference. I'm glad we sidestepped that whole cycle and chose a home instead of a trailer park in a tornado.

MTSU is the one that kills me. Had a chance to get out from under the CUSA leadership, if you can call it that, and go to a reasonably tight geographic conference, even if they're the southern most team in it. I gotta think they'd be happier in the MAC and I know WKU would be.

(07-07-2023 01:51 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  There will be some good teams come from this group. Its just SBC is a better league as far as the goals of our group. I think our group wants to build. Most of those schools want to leave. CUSA and AAC have always had that mindset. I think the fans of our schools from there think they have found a place to build. I hope the administrators feel the same.

From the time Cincy, UL, and USF were recruited into the Big East, there has been jealousy and maneuvering in CUSA, and then it happened again with the whore four in 2012 and the three wannabes in 2013, and again again last year. And since some of those teams moved up and out of the eventual AAC into the P5, all of them think they're next and they don't care about making their conference better and cohesive. It's all who can get the first ticket out. It should just be the CC, Cutthroat Conference. I'm glad we sidestepped that whole cycle and chose a home instead of a trailer park in a tornado.

MTSU is the one that kills me. Had a chance to get out from under the CUSA leadership, if you can call it that, and go to a reasonably tight geographic conference, even if they're the southern most team in it. I gotta think they'd be happier in the MAC and I know WKU would be.

There were a couple of MTSU fans that stood out and kept the spit balls coming when GS and App received the invite to join the Sun Belt. The back and forth was nasty for a bit. It's this stuff that makes the crap sandwich they're eating gratifying. What ended it was pretty funny one of them pointed me out after a typo homophone by calling it a homonym and spelled grammar grammer. The back lash was pretty epic.

(07-03-2023 09:08 AM)RustonBulldog Wrote:  Obsessed - July Edition - Part 2

Thought nobody read this board.. You need to talk to ya crew over yonder.

(07-07-2023 08:27 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  There were a couple of MTSU fans that stood out and kept the spit balls coming when GS and App received the invite to join the Sun Belt. The back and forth was nasty for a bit. It's this stuff that makes the crap sandwich they're eating gratifying. What ended it was pretty funny one of them pointed me out after a typo homophone by calling it a homonym and spelled grammar grammer. The back lash was pretty epic.

Reminds me of ValleyBoy coming onto the USA board with his “Woah unto you” post.

(07-07-2023 08:33 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 08:27 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  There were a couple of MTSU fans that stood out and kept the spit balls coming when GS and App received the invite to join the Sun Belt. The back and forth was nasty for a bit. It's this stuff that makes the crap sandwich they're eating gratifying. What ended it was pretty funny one of them pointed me out after a typo homophone by calling it a homonym and spelled grammar grammer. The back lash was pretty epic.

Reminds me of ValleyBoy coming onto the USA board with his “Woah unto you” post.

Hmm.. Woah Unto You..

I may start using this for game day threads..

(07-07-2023 01:51 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  There will be some good teams come from this group. Its just SBC is a better league as far as the goals of our group. I think our group wants to build. Most of those schools want to leave. CUSA and AAC have always had that mindset. I think the fans of our schools from there think they have found a place to build. I hope the administrators feel the same.

From the time Cincy, UL, and USF were recruited into the Big East, there has been jealousy and maneuvering in CUSA, and then it happened again with the whore four in 2012 and the three wannabes in 2013, and again again last year. And since some of those teams moved up and out of the eventual AAC into the P5, all of them think they're next and they don't care about making their conference better and cohesive. It's all who can get the first ticket out. It should just be the CC, Cutthroat Conference. I'm glad we sidestepped that whole cycle and chose a home instead of a trailer park in a tornado.

MTSU is the one that kills me. Had a chance to get out from under the CUSA leadership, if you can call it that, and go to a reasonably tight geographic conference, even if they're the southern most team in it. I gotta think they'd be happier in the MAC and I know WKU would be.

It was no more stable in the CUSA 1.x era. The football lineup was ever-changing from 1996 to 2002. The original six (version 1.0) was USM, Houston, Cincy, Louisville, Memphis and Tulane. The additions:

(1.1) 1997- ECU
(1.2) 1998- Army
(1.3) 1999- UAB
2000- Same lineup
(1.4) 2001- TCU
2002- Same lineup
(1.5) 2003- USF
2004- Same lineup

(07-07-2023 09:31 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 01:51 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  There will be some good teams come from this group. Its just SBC is a better league as far as the goals of our group. I think our group wants to build. Most of those schools want to leave. CUSA and AAC have always had that mindset. I think the fans of our schools from there think they have found a place to build. I hope the administrators feel the same.

From the time Cincy, UL, and USF were recruited into the Big East, there has been jealousy and maneuvering in CUSA, and then it happened again with the whore four in 2012 and the three wannabes in 2013, and again again last year. And since some of those teams moved up and out of the eventual AAC into the P5, all of them think they're next and they don't care about making their conference better and cohesive. It's all who can get the first ticket out. It should just be the CC, Cutthroat Conference. I'm glad we sidestepped that whole cycle and chose a home instead of a trailer park in a tornado.

MTSU is the one that kills me. Had a chance to get out from under the CUSA leadership, if you can call it that, and go to a reasonably tight geographic conference, even if they're the southern most team in it. I gotta think they'd be happier in the MAC and I know WKU would be.

It was no more stable in the CUSA 1.x era. The football lineup was ever-changing from 1996 to 2002. The original six (version 1.0) was USM, Houston, Cincy, Louisville, Memphis and Tulane. The additions:

(1.1) 1997- ECU
(1.2) 1998- Army
(1.3) 1999- UAB
2000- Same lineup
(1.4) 2001- TCU
2002- Same lineup
(1.5) 2003- USF
2004- Same lineup

I'm stoked that Marshall and Southern Miss are together in the SBC.

(07-07-2023 09:38 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 09:31 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 01:51 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:29 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  There will be some good teams come from this group. Its just SBC is a better league as far as the goals of our group. I think our group wants to build. Most of those schools want to leave. CUSA and AAC have always had that mindset. I think the fans of our schools from there think they have found a place to build. I hope the administrators feel the same.

From the time Cincy, UL, and USF were recruited into the Big East, there has been jealousy and maneuvering in CUSA, and then it happened again with the whore four in 2012 and the three wannabes in 2013, and again again last year. And since some of those teams moved up and out of the eventual AAC into the P5, all of them think they're next and they don't care about making their conference better and cohesive. It's all who can get the first ticket out. It should just be the CC, Cutthroat Conference. I'm glad we sidestepped that whole cycle and chose a home instead of a trailer park in a tornado.

MTSU is the one that kills me. Had a chance to get out from under the CUSA leadership, if you can call it that, and go to a reasonably tight geographic conference, even if they're the southern most team in it. I gotta think they'd be happier in the MAC and I know WKU would be.

It was no more stable in the CUSA 1.x era. The football lineup was ever-changing from 1996 to 2002. The original six (version 1.0) was USM, Houston, Cincy, Louisville, Memphis and Tulane. The additions:

(1.1) 1997- ECU
(1.2) 1998- Army
(1.3) 1999- UAB
2000- Same lineup
(1.4) 2001- TCU
2002- Same lineup
(1.5) 2003- USF
2004- Same lineup

I'm stoked that Marshall and Southern Miss are together in the SBC.

It would only be better if we were in the same division, but being in a cohesive conference that is stable and growing with you guys is a welcome change from where we were.

Yea I don't mind growing with the one bison herd ...

Southern Miss was a mirror image of Marshall, doing a lot with little. I remember our first game while in CUSA. Snyder ball but it still ended up being razor thing at the end with a USM victory. Always a program and school I respected, had some good battles over the years. Hoping for more.

(07-07-2023 01:51 AM)MUther Wrote:  From the time Cincy, UL, and USF were recruited into the Big East, there has been jealousy and maneuvering in CUSA, and then it happened again with the whore four in 2012 and the three wannabes in 2013, and again again last year. And since some of those teams moved up and out of the eventual AAC into the P5, all of them think they're next and they don't care about making their conference better and cohesive. It's all who can get the first ticket out. It should just be the CC, Cutthroat Conference. I'm glad we sidestepped that whole cycle and chose a home instead of a trailer park in a tornado.

The “jealousy and maneuvering” started long before then. It was a feature, not a bug, as they say.

CUSA started out as an agreement among the original 6 football members to form a football conference. Well, Memphis & Cincinnati had to bring along their basketball buddies from the Great Midwest, so it ended up essentially a Metro-Great Midwest Frankenstein merger in which the sport that catalyzed the whole process was only played by half the membership, the geography was insane (from Houston to South Florida to Marquette), and there was not one whit of common identity.

We were told that it’d be worth it, though, because of the half-dozen NCAA tournament bids we were going to get every year and the money that would follow. Neither of those actually came to fruition, though, as the DePaul/Marquette/St. Louis trio averaged more or less 1 tourney appearance a year between them while in CUSA.

Louisville especially was a PITA from the get-go. When it benefitted them, they wanted to be in the conference, but the minute they were potentially slightly inconvenienced by anything, they raised hell. Even at 6-7 members, they balked at playing what they deemed “too many” conference football games that would get in the way of their “national scheduling.” At one point within the first couple years, they almost postured themselves into getting kicked out, I believe over football expansion. Of course, they were also the first of the football 6 to get into a real P5, so being pr*cks worked out for them, I suppose.

The best shot we had at building anything stable was the 12-member, all-sports version after the basketball-onlys, USF, Louisville, & Cincinnati headed off to the Big East. That was the first version that made a lick of sense in terms of sports & geography. But by then, AQ/non-AQ had taken hold and musical chairs had started with everybody jockeying to make the next step up.

The rest of you guys cannot comprehend how happy we are to be done with all that nonsense after almost 3 decades and in a conference with a real identity and everybody pulling the proverbial rope in the same direction.

(07-07-2023 01:38 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 01:51 AM)MUther Wrote:  From the time Cincy, UL, and USF were recruited into the Big East, there has been jealousy and maneuvering in CUSA, and then it happened again with the whore four in 2012 and the three wannabes in 2013, and again again last year. And since some of those teams moved up and out of the eventual AAC into the P5, all of them think they're next and they don't care about making their conference better and cohesive. It's all who can get the first ticket out. It should just be the CC, Cutthroat Conference. I'm glad we sidestepped that whole cycle and chose a home instead of a trailer park in a tornado.

The “jealousy and maneuvering” started long before then. It was a feature, not a bug, as they say.

CUSA started out as an agreement among the original 6 football members to form a football conference. Well, Memphis & Cincinnati had to bring along their basketball buddies from the Great Midwest, so it ended up essentially a Metro-Great Midwest Frankenstein merger in which the sport that catalyzed the whole process was only played by half the membership, the geography was insane (from Houston to South Florida to Marquette), and there was not one whit of common identity.

We were told that it’d be worth it, though, because of the half-dozen NCAA tournament bids we were going to get every year and the money that would follow. Neither of those actually came to fruition, though, as the DePaul/Marquette/St. Louis trio averaged more or less 1 tourney appearance a year between them while in CUSA.

Louisville especially was a PITA from the get-go. When it benefitted them, they wanted to be in the conference, but the minute they were potentially slightly inconvenienced by anything, they raised hell. Even at 6-7 members, they balked at playing what they deemed “too many” conference football games that would get in the way of their “national scheduling.” At one point within the first couple years, they almost postured themselves into getting kicked out, I believe over football expansion. Of course, they were also the first of the football 6 to get into a real P5, so being pr*cks worked out for them, I suppose.

The best shot we had at building anything stable was the 12-member, all-sports version after the basketball-onlys, USF, Louisville, & Cincinnati headed off to the Big East. That was the first version that made a lick of sense in terms of sports & geography. But by then, AQ/non-AQ had taken hold and musical chairs had started with everybody jockeying to make the next step up.

The rest of you guys cannot comprehend how happy we are to be done with all that nonsense after almost 3 decades and in a conference with a real identity and everybody pulling the proverbial rope in the same direction.

But now most of those schools are stuck with the CRAP that we were stuck with when they all left in 2013 Have you seen the thread over there with the ECU guys constantly battling the CLiT Idiot that refers to hims self in 3rd Idiot (person)?

Yep it is funny as hell. Whatever happened to the Rice idiot that gave the CUSA 3 a hard time, kept saying we would pay big $$ lol guess his rice law degree wasn't all that.

(07-07-2023 01:58 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 01:38 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 01:51 AM)MUther Wrote:  From the time Cincy, UL, and USF were recruited into the Big East, there has been jealousy and maneuvering in CUSA, and then it happened again with the whore four in 2012 and the three wannabes in 2013, and again again last year. And since some of those teams moved up and out of the eventual AAC into the P5, all of them think they're next and they don't care about making their conference better and cohesive. It's all who can get the first ticket out. It should just be the CC, Cutthroat Conference. I'm glad we sidestepped that whole cycle and chose a home instead of a trailer park in a tornado.

The “jealousy and maneuvering” started long before then. It was a feature, not a bug, as they say.

CUSA started out as an agreement among the original 6 football members to form a football conference. Well, Memphis & Cincinnati had to bring along their basketball buddies from the Great Midwest, so it ended up essentially a Metro-Great Midwest Frankenstein merger in which the sport that catalyzed the whole process was only played by half the membership, the geography was insane (from Houston to South Florida to Marquette), and there was not one whit of common identity.

We were told that it’d be worth it, though, because of the half-dozen NCAA tournament bids we were going to get every year and the money that would follow. Neither of those actually came to fruition, though, as the DePaul/Marquette/St. Louis trio averaged more or less 1 tourney appearance a year between them while in CUSA.

Louisville especially was a PITA from the get-go. When it benefitted them, they wanted to be in the conference, but the minute they were potentially slightly inconvenienced by anything, they raised hell. Even at 6-7 members, they balked at playing what they deemed “too many” conference football games that would get in the way of their “national scheduling.” At one point within the first couple years, they almost postured themselves into getting kicked out, I believe over football expansion. Of course, they were also the first of the football 6 to get into a real P5, so being pr*cks worked out for them, I suppose.

The best shot we had at building anything stable was the 12-member, all-sports version after the basketball-onlys, USF, Louisville, & Cincinnati headed off to the Big East. That was the first version that made a lick of sense in terms of sports & geography. But by then, AQ/non-AQ had taken hold and musical chairs had started with everybody jockeying to make the next step up.

The rest of you guys cannot comprehend how happy we are to be done with all that nonsense after almost 3 decades and in a conference with a real identity and everybody pulling the proverbial rope in the same direction.

But now most of those schools are stuck with the CRAP that we were stuck with when they all left in 2013 Have you seen the thread over there with the ECU guys constantly battling the CLiT Idiot that refers to hims self in 3rd Idiot (person)?

They don't have much else to get excited about.
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