A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

Oh, God! They've found me!

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

I agree with this. Reminds me of the Willie Taggart hire, if things don’t start to look up in year 2 you gotta make a move even though I was in the camp of keeping Taggart another year. Those in the know in hindsight made a good call.

(07-08-2023 04:51 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

I agree with this. Reminds me of the Willie Taggart hire, if things don’t start to look up in year 2 you gotta make a move even though I was in the camp of keeping Taggart another year. Those in the know in hindsight made a good call.

Taggart’s best days were at WKU where the competition wasn’t that great. Even Charlie Strong couldn’t clean up Taggarts mess at USF

(07-08-2023 04:51 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

I agree with this. Reminds me of the Willie Taggart hire, if things don’t start to look up in year 2 you gotta make a move even though I was in the camp of keeping Taggart another year. Those in the know in hindsight made a good call.

The problem with a 4-28 season is what constitutes things looking up? That is pretty much rock bottom lol. The whole coaching staff should have been canned. Suppose lets give him a second year, are 8 wins improvement? 12? KP can literally 3x last seasons record and still have a worse record than Texas Southern and they had the worst W/L record in NCAA tournament history.

(07-08-2023 08:54 AM)Gopper Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 04:51 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

I agree with this. Reminds me of the Willie Taggart hire, if things don’t start to look up in year 2 you gotta make a move even though I was in the camp of keeping Taggart another year. Those in the know in hindsight made a good call.

The problem with a 4-28 season is what constitutes things looking up? That is pretty much rock bottom lol. The whole coaching staff should have been canned. Suppose lets give him a second year, are 8 wins improvement? 12? KP can literally 3x last seasons record and still have a worse record than Texas Southern and they had the worst W/L record in NCAA tournament history.

Most coaches I agree but we hired a former player. You can't can a former player after 1 year. That'll screw up the entire alumni relations and you do need those. Doesn't send a great message of support to our current and future players either. That's the untold price you pay when you make a hire like we did.

(07-08-2023 04:20 PM)krux Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 08:54 AM)Gopper Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 04:51 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

I agree with this. Reminds me of the Willie Taggart hire, if things don’t start to look up in year 2 you gotta make a move even though I was in the camp of keeping Taggart another year. Those in the know in hindsight made a good call.

The problem with a 4-28 season is what constitutes things looking up? That is pretty much rock bottom lol. The whole coaching staff should have been canned. Suppose lets give him a second year, are 8 wins improvement? 12? KP can literally 3x last seasons record and still have a worse record than Texas Southern and they had the worst W/L record in NCAA tournament history.

Most coaches I agree but we hired a former player. You can't can a former player after 1 year. That'll screw up the entire alumni relations and you do need those. Doesn't send a great message of support to our current and future players either. That's the untold price you pay when you make a hire like we did.

You are glossing over the record due to the fact he is a former player and combining the two. I am only looking at the record. Alumni relations going to mean nothing when we start looking like Georgetown. Ultimately its fan support, not our former players, that bankrolls the basketball program.

(07-07-2023 05:48 PM)krux Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

Oh, God! They've found me!

They sensed you through the interwebs, and locked in like a stage 4 clinger.


Thanks man! There goes the neighborhood.





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(07-10-2023 06:43 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 05:48 PM)krux Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

Oh, God! They've found me!

They sensed you through the interwebs, and locked in like a stage 4 clinger.


Thanks man! There goes the neighborhood.





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Dude, I know!

(07-09-2023 01:57 PM)Gopper Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 04:20 PM)krux Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 08:54 AM)Gopper Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 04:51 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 05:08 PM)Gopper Wrote:  A program of Louisville's caliber should immediately re-evaluate everything when the final W/L is 4-28. IMO Padgett was dealt a worse hand than KP and what was his result. Louisville was so atrociously bad that we were in a class by ourselves.

I agree with this. Reminds me of the Willie Taggart hire, if things don’t start to look up in year 2 you gotta make a move even though I was in the camp of keeping Taggart another year. Those in the know in hindsight made a good call.

The problem with a 4-28 season is what constitutes things looking up? That is pretty much rock bottom lol. The whole coaching staff should have been canned. Suppose lets give him a second year, are 8 wins improvement? 12? KP can literally 3x last seasons record and still have a worse record than Texas Southern and they had the worst W/L record in NCAA tournament history.

Most coaches I agree but we hired a former player. You can't can a former player after 1 year. That'll screw up the entire alumni relations and you do need those. Doesn't send a great message of support to our current and future players either. That's the untold price you pay when you make a hire like we did.

You are glossing over the record due to the fact he is a former player and combining the two. I am only looking at the record. Alumni relations going to mean nothing when we start looking like Georgetown. Ultimately its fan support, not our former players, that bankrolls the basketball program.

I don't think accepting the fact there would be a year TWO (not 3, 4 or 5) of KP is glossing over last year's record. Again, you have to know and accept that sans a rape/murder scandal 99% of the time an alumni is going to get more than 1 year. To expect otherwise is unrealistic. It's the price you pay with that kind of hire.

Georgetown gave Ewing 5 years. Even Matt Dougherty (KP before KP was a thing) got 3 years. We're about to start year 2. Even if you want him gone you have to realize that it's just not how these things work. Being mad about it NOW is just silly. Especially when he's got a nice class coming in. Let's see how it plays out. If we win 18-20 this year a good portion of the fan base is going to feel dumb. Meanwhile, no one should feel silly for knowing an alumni coach wasn't going to get fired after the first year.

(06-28-2023 10:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-28-2023 09:48 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Hopefully the new 12-team CFP will keep more fan bases interested, later into the season and in the championship.

Just don't go using any high school gimmick systems to reach the top or we'll declare your system illegal. A lot of people have spent a lot of money on bling. Can't have you rocking the boat.

Liberty better be wary if they make a run in the CFP.

I certainly know what Krux is saying/feeling here.....Its never been this bad with our fanbase/MBB program. Its the whole spectrum of groups of people that has made it a miserable experience for our MBB. Not just fans, but the former players supporting KP no matter what, the local radio is either super hate/trolling or the complete opposite support KP no matter what, as well with message boards, for example the 247 board, basketball still carries the weight with attention/clicks/topics, but since the KP era started the hosts (Demling, MM, Branham, etc) barely comment on basketball on there now even in premium board forum. Its a pretty toxic situation to want to keep up with now...I also don't expect YUM to be lively right away, its probably gonna be a "prove it to us" situation for the fanbase at the beginning of the season.

....And KP isn't helping himself by saying at season ticket holder events this summer, its not about wins, its about if the kids are good in school and good in the community. Also continuing to plead to the fans to become friendly with UK/fans and wants both programs to thrive in the state....we all know damn well UK/fans don't think that way, and thats coming from his time on their bench.

After this year we're likely going to need to hire a coach who will be partial Pitino (coaching, motivating, fundraising) Mack (rally multiple groups of the fanbase/players together) and Crum, someone that wants to stay around for awhile...

Danny is right.

Louisville basketball discussion has become toxic on some of the Louisville message boards. If something remotely positive is posted the Never KP Louisville fans attack it. Then KP supporters come to his aid and it turns into a row.

I’ve got so I don’t click on any basketball news. I’m tired of the drama.

Football season can’t start soon enough

(07-18-2023 11:29 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Danny is right.

Louisville basketball discussion has become toxic on some of the Louisville message boards. If something remotely positive is posted the Never KP Louisville fans attack it. Then KP supporters come to his aid and it turns into a row.

I’ve got so I don’t click on any basketball news. I’m tired of the drama.

Football season can’t start soon enough

Jim, I'm saying the toxicity has bursted out well beyond the message boards with our MBB....its all outlets now and fractured in so many ways its gonna take new faces, time, and winning to bring it back.....I went to Denny Crums memorial service at YUM and it was a pathetic showing by our fanbase, which really hit home with me just how bad we've fallen as a loyal, dedicated, motivated fanbase to the program. We may have made the full 180 pivot to being a football school at this point.