I was at a continuing education seminar in Santa Monica when Kobe's crash occurred. A good friend who was also there has a tax law practice in Orange County. He is a private pilot and chose to fly up rather than fight the freeway traffic. Saturday night, I went to dinner with Dave and his wife Ann (who drove up). We talked about flying, and Dave was fearful of fog Sunday when he was flying back, because he tends to get disoriented (as we all do) in fog. Sure enough, Sunday was foggy. I said goodbye to Dave and Ann (she was driving him to the airport) and wished him a safe flight. When the TV broke in with news of a downed aircraft, my first thought was fear that it was Dave. Obviously we soon learned that it was Kobe and his daughter and friends.

(06-22-2023 07:49 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

That was his PR excuse for not hiring "50 year old white dudes." The likely real reason is the 50 year old white dudes with tons of experience in that field are probably the most expensive to hire. I'm going to bet most of his "inspirational hires" are probably people with little to no experience that he's getting on the cheap. Also even with an entire team full of non-binary people of color they could have done all the traditional 3rd party testing and validations. Of course, a story about a company avoiding pesky safety testing doesn't fit into this boards "MUH REGULATIONS BAD" narrative, but his retarded statement on not wanting to hire old white men does.

(06-22-2023 08:43 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 07:49 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

That was his PR excuse for not hiring "50 year old white dudes." The likely real reason is the 50 year old white dudes with tons of experience in that field are probably the most expensive to hire. I'm going to bet most of his "inspirational hires" are probably people with little to no experience that he's getting on the cheap. Also even with an entire team full of non-binary people of color they could have done all the traditional 3rd party testing and validations. Of course, a story about a company avoiding pesky safety testing doesn't fit into this boards "MUH REGULATIONS BAD" narrative, but his retarded statement on not wanting to hire old white men does.

The path he chose turned out to be way more expensive.

(06-22-2023 08:51 AM)PlainTiger Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 08:43 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 07:49 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

That was his PR excuse for not hiring "50 year old white dudes." The likely real reason is the 50 year old white dudes with tons of experience in that field are probably the most expensive to hire. I'm going to bet most of his "inspirational hires" are probably people with little to no experience that he's getting on the cheap. Also even with an entire team full of non-binary people of color they could have done all the traditional 3rd party testing and validations. Of course, a story about a company avoiding pesky safety testing doesn't fit into this boards "MUH REGULATIONS BAD" narrative, but his retarded statement on not wanting to hire old white men does.

The path he chose turned out to be way more expensive.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. It's rare you get to see the CEO of a company who bragged about how following generally accepted safety regulations/testing just hampers innovation face the direct consequences of his product being a defective piece of junk.

(06-22-2023 07:30 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The media is pathetic. I saw on one of the news channels a countdown clock that was counting down "available air" time. I mean, why is that necessary? Why in the world would someone think that is a good idea?

The drama of it all sells almost as well as fear and anger. Now that the "air" drama is over maybe they will move on to what likely happened when all communication was lost suddenly. What that implies. And the corner cutting taken by Oceangate when building and maintaining the submersible will become the conversation. Of course most of the posters on this board will ignore it all and continue to talk about trannies.

(06-22-2023 08:43 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 07:49 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

That was his PR excuse for not hiring "50 year old white dudes." The likely real reason is the 50 year old white dudes with tons of experience in that field are probably the most expensive to hire. I'm going to bet most of his "inspirational hires" are probably people with little to no experience that he's getting on the cheap. Also even with an entire team full of non-binary people of color they could have done all the traditional 3rd party testing and validations. Of course, a story about a company avoiding pesky safety testing doesn't fit into this boards "MUH REGULATIONS BAD" narrative, but his retarded statement on not wanting to hire old white men does.

Yeah, it looks like the company's staff is comprised of primarily 50 year old white dudes/gals. There is a latino guy in software engineering though.

(06-21-2023 09:45 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Ridiculous when people try to take a tragedy and turn it into an example of the "other political side." This board for an example and this tweet for an example...

“Never let a tragedy go to waste” - Rahm Emanuel

(06-22-2023 10:21 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen, they should have used a latch of some sort...

So the designer was a female minority I'm assuming based on the comments. And it was piloted using a video game controller. YOu really can't make this stuff up.

Coast Guard announced that an unmanned Canadian robotic submersible has discovered a debris field on the sea bed floor near the Titanic.

No further details yet.

(06-22-2023 10:46 AM)b2b Wrote:  So the designer was a female minority I'm assuming based on the comments. And it was piloted using a video game controller. YOu really can't make this stuff up.

The video game controller makes it seem sillier than what it is. All they are are input devices and they pretty much offer all the input options that you need for most activities. UTSAMarine pointed out that drones are flown with them. At a minimum the one they used 18 inputs that can be assigned to any function. If the triggers are PS4 or 5 quality, you have 22 and options for output.

Chances are they designer was a team of engineers that built to his specifications. The construction was his own.

(06-22-2023 11:10 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 10:46 AM)b2b Wrote:  So the designer was a female minority I'm assuming based on the comments. And it was piloted using a video game controller. YOu really can't make this stuff up.

The video game controller makes it seem sillier than what it is. All they are are input devices and they pretty much offer all the input options that you need for most activities. UTSAMarine pointed out that drones are flown with them. At a minimum the one they used 18 inputs that can be assigned to any function. If the triggers are PS4 or 5 quality, you have 22 and options for output.

Chances are they designer was a team of engineers that built to his specifications. The construction was his own.

https://90percentofeverything.com/2010/0...index.html

(06-22-2023 11:09 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Coast Guard announced that an unmanned Canadian robotic submersible has discovered a debris field on the sea bed floor near the Titanic.

No further details yet.

Here's the Twitter account

Honestly the millisecond death they would have experienced from an implosion would be far better than slowly dieing in their own piss and poop.

Just sad all the way around...

Quote:Now, in an exclusive interview with U.K. publication The Sun, a British multimillionaire says he was supposed to be one of the passengers on the Titan, and explains why he decided to cancel.

Chris Brown, a 61-year-old digital marketing magnate, says that he and his friend Hamish Harding were early supporters of OceanGate’s submersible project. In the interview, he strikes a hopeful note about Hamish and the other passengers:

I feel really upset about Hamish — he’s an extremely easy guy to get along with.

One thing’s for certain, Hamish isn’t the sort of fellow to panic. He’ll be extremely calm and will be processing plans, schemes and ideas through his enormous brain.

I fully expect he’ll be a calming influence on the others in the sub, and will be giving them hope.

Brown told The Sun that he and Harding first heard the company’s plan to ferry people to the Titanic site in 2016, and decided to fork over the 10 percent buy-in over a couple of beers:

The two Brits were holidaying on Sir Richard Branson’s Necker Island that year when they decided to join a Titanic mission.

At the time both paid a ten per cent deposit on the then £80,000 [$100,000] voyage after a “few beers.” […]

Chris said: “I was one of the first people to sign up for this trip with OceanGate while the submersible was being developed.”

But as he learned more details about the project, Brown says he became uncomfortable with what he was hearing. He started to suspect OceanGate “was cutting too many corners”:

I found out they used old scaffolding poles for the sub’s ballast — and its controls were based on computer game-style controllers.

If you’re trying to build your own submarine you could probably use old scaffold poles. But this was a commercial craft.

Indeed, the controls they had to pilot the craft was “a modified Logitech gaming controller — complete with twin thumbsticks and four colourful buttons, that allow the operator to manoeuvre the sub,” according to The Sun piece.

There were other red flags, Brown says, like when the company “missed key targets as they depth-tested Titan.” Brown had seen enough, and contacted OceanGate to get his deposit back:

“Eventually I emailed them and said, ‘I’m no longer able to go on this thing’. I asked for a refund after being less than convinced.”

He says that while he’s “not one to shy away from risk,” in this situation, “the risks were too high.

Link

This is best case scenario. They never felt a thing with an implosion. It imploded quicker than their nerves signal their brains.

Reports coming out now that the robot sub has discovered a landing frame and rear cover, both positively identified to the Titan.

Presser scheduled for 3 pm EDT.