(06-16-2023 08:10 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The real question is why are you using a Peter Strzok tweet to make a political point?

Peter Strzok courtesy of the NYT


Doesn’t get any less credible than that!!!

(06-16-2023 08:41 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The bigger question is why Trump's documents were so more of a national threat than all the others... who you all know damn well took documents as well an no one said a word.

Yep, the simple fact only one has been indicted tells 100% that this is solely partisan politics. I can't believe others are so blind and beholden that that actually go along with it.

(06-16-2023 08:10 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The real question is why are you using a Peter Strzok tweet to make a political point?

Why is that a real question? Who the **** cares...it's his opinion. It showed up in my timeline because someone I follow retweeted it. And the article is from the NYT...and it basically makes the same point as the OP...that holding onto these documents was more of some weird obsession for trump rather than some criminal enterprise.

That being said, his handling of this type of information is not sound practice and highly likely, criminal...especially for someone who was president and thinks he's qualified to be one again.

So what does that say for someone who took documents as VP and is brain dead as far as being qualified as potus?

(06-16-2023 08:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:41 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The bigger question is why Trump's documents were so more of a national threat than all the others... who you all know damn well took documents as well an no one said a word.

Yep, the simple fact only one has been indicted tells 100% that this is solely partisan politics. I can't believe others are so blind and beholden that that actually go along with it.

Again with this nonsense? There's not been one former president shown to have done ANYTHING even REMOTELY similar.

(06-16-2023 07:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 07:37 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I viewed Trump with hesitant optimism the first go round. I wanted to see how a 'businessman' would run the country as it was obvious that career politicians were terrible at the job. Overall I was pleased. The work that Trump did getting conservative and constitutionally minded judges on various courts around the country has at least slowed the progressive rot for the next 25-40 years. The US didn't get involved in any new conflicts, adversaries remained in line, and big-govt seemed to be put on a diet. I think Trump was naïve about just how big of a deal the deep state was and to what extent it held the real power in the US.

This go round I want him to go full scorched earth. Anybody he has the ability to fire should be fired on day one. Declassify everything that doesn't severely damage national security. Drop all the dirty secrets, our own included, and let the world burn. It's time for a reset and I would rather it be done with the best interest of the US in mind and not those of China, the ME, or the democratic socialists in Europe. The US is in a serious state of decay, poisoned by career politicians who have long ago forgotten the reason they were in DC. Their interests aren't our own interests. I'm not necessarily saying Trump's interests are our own as well, but what he said and did publicly his first go round was far better than what any president since Reagan has said and done.

I'll take his mean tweets, narcissistic personality, proclivity for exaggerating, little white lies, etc. for four more years. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and more cynical, but I just wanna watch the liberals cry and the world burn.

Interesting...sorta sounds like the stuff of dictators. Which is exactly why I say trump is a threat to our democracy.

But as you hint at...there's zero guarantee this would be done solely for our country and NOT for him personally.

Trump is far from anything resembling a dictator. His actions were likewise far from any that a dictator would have taken.

(06-16-2023 09:01 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Trump is far from anything resembling a dictator. His actions were likewise far from any that a dictator would have taken.

But that's not what the MSM says.

(06-16-2023 08:41 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The bigger question is why Trump's documents were so more of a national threat than all the others... who you all know damn well took documents as well an no one said a word.

They aren't. The documents are just a tool they are using to stop Trump from further damaging the progressive liberal agenda. Full Stop.

(06-16-2023 09:02 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:01 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Trump is far from anything resembling a dictator. His actions were likewise far from any that a dictator would have taken.

But that's not what the MSM says.

That's because 99.9% of the MSM, their on air personalities, owner's, and viewers are fuckin idiot progressive liberals.

(06-16-2023 09:05 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:02 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:01 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Trump is far from anything resembling a dictator. His actions were likewise far from any that a dictator would have taken.

But that's not what the MSM says.

That's because 99.9% of the MSM, their on air personalities, owner's, and viewers are fuckin idiot progressive liberals.

Oh I know that, certain other shills don't though.

(06-16-2023 08:42 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:10 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The real question is why are you using a Peter Strzok tweet to make a political point?

Peter Strzok courtesy of the NYT


Doesn’t get any less credible than that!!!

Im convinced its deep seated mental illness with the hate trump crowd. I mean, someone like him beat thrm up in school, banged their girlfriend, ran off their mom. They are always the same type...beta cucks or fat white women

(06-16-2023 08:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:10 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The real question is why are you using a Peter Strzok tweet to make a political point?

Why is that a real question? Who the **** cares...it's his opinion. It showed up in my timeline because someone I follow retweeted it. And the article is from the NYT...and it basically makes the same point as the OP...that holding onto these documents was more of some weird obsession for trump rather than some criminal enterprise.

That being said, his handling of this type of information is not sound practice and highly likely, criminal...especially for someone who was president and thinks he's qualified to be one again.

Relax Tom. Jeez.

Trump has some Nixon in him for sure. Obviously he trusts nobody and wants to have access to the documents in case someone tries to backstab him down the road…he isnt the first POTUS to think this way. He was more negligent and likely violated the law, but a reasonable prosecutor wouldn't charge.


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(06-16-2023 09:01 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 07:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 07:37 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I viewed Trump with hesitant optimism the first go round. I wanted to see how a 'businessman' would run the country as it was obvious that career politicians were terrible at the job. Overall I was pleased. The work that Trump did getting conservative and constitutionally minded judges on various courts around the country has at least slowed the progressive rot for the next 25-40 years. The US didn't get involved in any new conflicts, adversaries remained in line, and big-govt seemed to be put on a diet. I think Trump was naïve about just how big of a deal the deep state was and to what extent it held the real power in the US.

This go round I want him to go full scorched earth. Anybody he has the ability to fire should be fired on day one. Declassify everything that doesn't severely damage national security. Drop all the dirty secrets, our own included, and let the world burn. It's time for a reset and I would rather it be done with the best interest of the US in mind and not those of China, the ME, or the democratic socialists in Europe. The US is in a serious state of decay, poisoned by career politicians who have long ago forgotten the reason they were in DC. Their interests aren't our own interests. I'm not necessarily saying Trump's interests are our own as well, but what he said and did publicly his first go round was far better than what any president since Reagan has said and done.

I'll take his mean tweets, narcissistic personality, proclivity for exaggerating, little white lies, etc. for four more years. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and more cynical, but I just wanna watch the liberals cry and the world burn.

Interesting...sorta sounds like the stuff of dictators. Which is exactly why I say trump is a threat to our democracy.

But as you hint at...there's zero guarantee this would be done solely for our country and NOT for him personally.

Trump is far from anything resembling a dictator. His actions were likewise far from any that a dictator would have taken.

Mostly because he's not currently in the WH. God help us if he's elected again.

(06-16-2023 09:08 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:10 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The real question is why are you using a Peter Strzok tweet to make a political point?

Why is that a real question? Who the **** cares...it's his opinion. It showed up in my timeline because someone I follow retweeted it. And the article is from the NYT...and it basically makes the same point as the OP...that holding onto these documents was more of some weird obsession for trump rather than some criminal enterprise.

That being said, his handling of this type of information is not sound practice and highly likely, criminal...especially for someone who was president and thinks he's qualified to be one again.

Relax Tom. Jeez.

Trump has some Nixon in him for sure. Obviously he trusts nobody and wants to have access to the documents in case someone tries to backstab him down the road…he isnt the first POTUS to think this way. He was more negligent and likely violated the law, but a reasonable prosecutor wouldn't charge.

Completely relaxed...it's just idiotic to think this has anything to do with Strzok

Regardless of what you think of this prosecutor, trust me, he wouldn't have been charged either if the fool would have simply returned the ******* documents when asked. But he chose to keep moving them, deep delaying, and having his attorney's unwittingly lie for him.

His actions were unprecedented by any former high ranking official including presidents. Hence why this indictment is unprecedented.

(06-16-2023 08:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:41 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The bigger question is why Trump's documents were so more of a national threat than all the others... who you all know damn well took documents as well an no one said a word.

Yep, the simple fact only one has been indicted tells 100% that this is solely partisan politics. I can't believe others are so blind and beholden that that actually go along with it.

Again with this nonsense? There's not been one former president shown to have done ANYTHING even REMOTELY similar.

You continue to believe what you are being told. I simply refuse to do so. There have been too many recent instances of flat out media lies to allow any sort of benefit of the doubt. That train passed a long time ago.

(06-16-2023 09:03 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:41 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The bigger question is why Trump's documents were so more of a national threat than all the others... who you all know damn well took documents as well an no one said a word.

They aren't. The documents are just a tool they are using to stop Trump from further damaging the progressive liberal agenda. Full Stop.

If they were doing the full letter of the law, Biden, Pence, and Clinton would be held just as responsible.. The BS of well Biden and Pence cooperated is just that.. It's BS. Anyone else would've lost their clearance and depending on the severity of the information would be looking at jail time. Funny how only one person is.

Before my clearance went into retro, we were told it didn't matter if we accidently took something or not, if found we were in a heap of trouble.. No if, ands, or buts.

(06-16-2023 09:08 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:42 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:10 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The real question is why are you using a Peter Strzok tweet to make a political point?

Peter Strzok courtesy of the NYT


Doesn’t get any less credible than that!!!

Im convinced its deep seated mental illness with the hate trump crowd. I mean, someone like him beat thrm up in school, banged their girlfriend, ran off their mom. They are always the same type...beta cucks or fat white women

Liberal Democrats. They’re just stupid people

(06-16-2023 09:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:01 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 07:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 07:37 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I viewed Trump with hesitant optimism the first go round. I wanted to see how a 'businessman' would run the country as it was obvious that career politicians were terrible at the job. Overall I was pleased. The work that Trump did getting conservative and constitutionally minded judges on various courts around the country has at least slowed the progressive rot for the next 25-40 years. The US didn't get involved in any new conflicts, adversaries remained in line, and big-govt seemed to be put on a diet. I think Trump was naïve about just how big of a deal the deep state was and to what extent it held the real power in the US.

This go round I want him to go full scorched earth. Anybody he has the ability to fire should be fired on day one. Declassify everything that doesn't severely damage national security. Drop all the dirty secrets, our own included, and let the world burn. It's time for a reset and I would rather it be done with the best interest of the US in mind and not those of China, the ME, or the democratic socialists in Europe. The US is in a serious state of decay, poisoned by career politicians who have long ago forgotten the reason they were in DC. Their interests aren't our own interests. I'm not necessarily saying Trump's interests are our own as well, but what he said and did publicly his first go round was far better than what any president since Reagan has said and done.

I'll take his mean tweets, narcissistic personality, proclivity for exaggerating, little white lies, etc. for four more years. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and more cynical, but I just wanna watch the liberals cry and the world burn.

Interesting...sorta sounds like the stuff of dictators. Which is exactly why I say trump is a threat to our democracy.

But as you hint at...there's zero guarantee this would be done solely for our country and NOT for him personally.

Trump is far from anything resembling a dictator. His actions were likewise far from any that a dictator would have taken.

Mostly because he's not currently in the WH. God help us if he's elected again.

Yeah, God help us. We certainly don’t need a person who has demonstrated he’ll put America first and build a booming economy. We need a senile pedo beholden to the Chinks and driving inflation thru the roof instead. Good times!

(06-16-2023 09:16 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:41 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The bigger question is why Trump's documents were so more of a national threat than all the others... who you all know damn well took documents as well an no one said a word.

Yep, the simple fact only one has been indicted tells 100% that this is solely partisan politics. I can't believe others are so blind and beholden that that actually go along with it.

Again with this nonsense? There's not been one former president shown to have done ANYTHING even REMOTELY similar.

You continue to believe what you are being told. I simply refuse to do so. There have been too many recent instances of flat out media lies to allow any sort of benefit of the doubt. That train passed a long time ago.

Not being told anything, dude. It's just ******* facts. Show me one former president who did anything similar? And don't give me this "we don't know" bull****. Yeah, we don't know...so you then afford them the perception of innocence.

The authoritative body on this matter, NARA, has issued statement after statement detailing the behavior of the recent presidents of both parties and none of it compares, NONE of it.

But as soon as you want to put forth any credible evidence that they did, I gladly look at it.

(06-16-2023 09:22 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 09:01 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 07:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 07:37 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I viewed Trump with hesitant optimism the first go round. I wanted to see how a 'businessman' would run the country as it was obvious that career politicians were terrible at the job. Overall I was pleased. The work that Trump did getting conservative and constitutionally minded judges on various courts around the country has at least slowed the progressive rot for the next 25-40 years. The US didn't get involved in any new conflicts, adversaries remained in line, and big-govt seemed to be put on a diet. I think Trump was naïve about just how big of a deal the deep state was and to what extent it held the real power in the US.

This go round I want him to go full scorched earth. Anybody he has the ability to fire should be fired on day one. Declassify everything that doesn't severely damage national security. Drop all the dirty secrets, our own included, and let the world burn. It's time for a reset and I would rather it be done with the best interest of the US in mind and not those of China, the ME, or the democratic socialists in Europe. The US is in a serious state of decay, poisoned by career politicians who have long ago forgotten the reason they were in DC. Their interests aren't our own interests. I'm not necessarily saying Trump's interests are our own as well, but what he said and did publicly his first go round was far better than what any president since Reagan has said and done.

I'll take his mean tweets, narcissistic personality, proclivity for exaggerating, little white lies, etc. for four more years. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and more cynical, but I just wanna watch the liberals cry and the world burn.

Interesting...sorta sounds like the stuff of dictators. Which is exactly why I say trump is a threat to our democracy.

But as you hint at...there's zero guarantee this would be done solely for our country and NOT for him personally.

Trump is far from anything resembling a dictator. His actions were likewise far from any that a dictator would have taken.

Mostly because he's not currently in the WH. God help us if he's elected again.

Yeah, God help us. We certainly don’t need a person who has demonstrated he’ll put America first and build a booming economy. We need a senile pedo beholden to the Chinks and driving inflation thru the roof instead. Good times!

I especially love how he caused a global pandemic and global inflation. He's quite powerful for a vegetable, huh?!?