Pete Thamel of ESPN reports:

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ected-soon

Not a ringing endorsement on the future of the PAC.

Quote:The flirtations of Colorado with the Big 12 -- with officials from each side meeting in person, sources told ESPN -- have also put Arizona more in focus.

Quote:"Each of us will make our own independent analysis," Robbins said at the Future of College Athletics Summit hosted here by the University of Arizona. "My prediction is that we're all going to stay together as a Pac-12. There's 10 of us right now. I'm hopeful that the deal is going to be good enough to keep us together."

The AZ President indicated the decision to stay and GOR would move “quick” upon presentation of media deal which should arrive “soon”.

Would you believe that? It will come down to TV $ and exposure. Lol

OP, thank you for posting this.

It turns out the rumors of the PAC's death were greatly exaggerated.

Now only one question remains, how could so many no-name bloggers without sources who have no journalistic credibility at stake whose off-brand energy drink/Manscaped will sponsor them either way who aren't actually privy to jack all of anything [*cough* Monty Show, Sicem365, et al] have been so wrong?

My theory is that literally all of these types of sources are just making things up. Ever notice how their only live/written testimony comes from their peers in the "fake sports news" industry? Everything else they give you for your attention and clicks is just "my sources say..." [blah, blah, blah], don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like this video, and stay with us for all the latest "updates."

Sounds like what Ive been saying---they are laying out the requirements to remain together. Basically---he's saying----"Bring us a TV deal like the B12 has---and Im confident we will stay together---I hope George gets us that deal---but we still have no hard numbers."

(06-07-2023 07:23 PM)Sparty Baby 84 Wrote:  OP, thank you for posting this.

It turns out the rumors of the PAC's death were greatly exaggerated.

Now only one question remains, how could so many no-name bloggers without sources who have no journalistic credibility at stake whose off-brand energy drink/Manscaped will sponsor them either way who aren't actually privy to jack all of anything [*cough* Monty Show, Sicem365, et al] have been so wrong?

My theory is that literally all of these types of sources are just making things up. Ever notice how their only live/written testimony comes from their peers in the "fake sports news" industry? Everything else they give you for your attention and clicks is just "my sources say..." [blah, blah, blah], don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like this video, and stay with us for all the latest "updates."

Journalists aren’t making up the instability- it’s clearly an uncertain time for the league. Pac12 schools are clearly doing due diligence and looking out for their best interests. As UCLA and USC showed you can’t assume anything. If the PAC-12 Tv deal meets/ exceeds $ and exposure thresholds or even comes close they are staying together. If not schools are going to act in their best interests.

(06-07-2023 07:23 PM)Sparty Baby 84 Wrote:  OP, thank you for posting this.

It turns out the rumors of the PAC's death were greatly exaggerated.

Now only one question remains, how could so many no-name bloggers without sources who have no journalistic credibility at stake whose off-brand energy drink/Manscaped will sponsor them either way who aren't actually privy to jack all of anything [*cough* Monty Show, Sicem365, et al] have been so wrong?

My theory is that literally all of these types of sources are just making things up. Ever notice how their only live/written testimony comes from their peers in the "fake sports news" industry? Everything else they give you for your attention and clicks is just "my sources say..." [blah, blah, blah], don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like this video, and stay with us for all the latest "updates."

The Arizona and Colorado presidents have basically confirmed everything those bloggers have said except those that say them leaving is inevitable.

From the article:

"Arizona president Bobby Robbins on Wednesday said he doesn't expect any decisions concerning conference realignment to be made until Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff brings hard numbers to university presidents."

WTF??? No hard numbers but the media reported today (John Canzano) they (PAC12) are all in on Grant Of Rights??? This is a complete catastrophe very similar to the old BIG EAST final days???

(06-07-2023 07:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Sounds like what Ive been saying---they are laying out the requirements to remain together. Basically---he's saying----"Bring us a TV deal like the B12 has---and Im confident we will stay together---I hope George gets us that deal---but we still have no hard numbers."

Not gonna happen. The television markets left just won't generate the viewership to command those type of numbers. Simple math and return on investment shows smart money will make an offer but not what some would expect or want to stay in the PAC.

Colorado has one foot out the door already looking around and thinking by chance a miracle may fall out of the sky to keep them there.

(06-07-2023 08:17 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  From the article:

"Arizona president Bobby Robbins on Wednesday said he doesn't expect any decisions concerning conference realignment to be made until Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff brings hard numbers to university presidents."

WTF??? No hard numbers but the media reported today (John Canzano) they (PAC12) are all in on Grant Of Rights??? This is a complete catastrophe very similar to the old BIG EAST final days???

It's a dumpster fire.

Today, reports came out that Pac-12 agreed on their next grant of rights. Those reports were news to Arizona Prez. Interview Below!


Link
https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/1666539040336642048

(06-07-2023 07:23 PM)Sparty Baby 84 Wrote:  OP, thank you for posting this.

It turns out the rumors of the PAC's death were greatly exaggerated.

Now only one question remains,

Actually, plenty of questions remain. Robbins didn't say anything that hasn't already been said over and over. So no questions were answered.

Is the PAC going to get a TV deal worth over $32M per team? $25M per team? $20M? $15M? Are they going to get 50% linear? One game a week linear? No linear at all? Linear on a nontraditional platform like the CW?

Or will someone break ranks sooner or later and jump to the Big 12, opening the floodgates?

Quote:how could so many no-name bloggers without sources who have no journalistic credibility at stake whose off-brand energy drink/Manscaped will sponsor them either way who aren't actually privy to jack all of anything [*cough* Monty Show, Sicem365, et al] have been so wrong?

They're not wrong until there's an actual TV deal announced. They may be BS'ing and making up rumors, but they're not really wrong yet. And they may turn out to be right.

Quote:My theory is that literally all of these types of sources are just making things up. Ever notice how their only live/written testimony comes from their peers in the "fake sports news" industry? Everything else they give you for your attention and clicks is just "my sources say..." [blah, blah, blah], don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like this video, and stay with us for all the latest "updates."

(06-07-2023 08:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-07-2023 07:23 PM)Sparty Baby 84 Wrote:  OP, thank you for posting this.

It turns out the rumors of the PAC's death were greatly exaggerated.

Now only one question remains, how could so many no-name bloggers without sources who have no journalistic credibility at stake whose off-brand energy drink/Manscaped will sponsor them either way who aren't actually privy to jack all of anything [*cough* Monty Show, Sicem365, et al] have been so wrong?

My theory is that literally all of these types of sources are just making things up. Ever notice how their only live/written testimony comes from their peers in the "fake sports news" industry? Everything else they give you for your attention and clicks is just "my sources say..." [blah, blah, blah], don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like this video, and stay with us for all the latest "updates."

The Arizona and Colorado presidents have basically confirmed everything those bloggers have said except those that say them leaving is inevitable.

Exactly, could the PAC stay together? Sure, will they though is the question.

Everything that was posted by the OP shouldn't give anyone here with half a brain warm and fuzzys about the future of the PAC. This conference is barely hanging on and unless Kliavkoff pulls off what at this point would have to be considered a miracle, it's more likely than not there are defections.

To be clear and I'll come back and take my tongue lashing if I'm wrong, the PAC only keeps all members if the TV deal is within 5million per team payout of the BigXII and 50% or more of their games are carried by a linear television company that matters (ESPN, FOX, NBC, CBS, ABC). The CW, ion, home shopping network, will not cut it point blank period.

(06-07-2023 06:34 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  Not a ringing endorsement on the future of the PAC.

"Right now, I think all 10 of us are solely focused on the deal," Robbins said. "Once we have that, we have degrees of freedom to make informed decisions."

That's coming from a guy who REALLY likes being in the Pac. He wants Kliavkoff to win and Yormark to hide his head in the sand for the next 6 months. And his ringing endorsement is "show us the money"? He has to be wondering when/if he'll ever see hard numbers at this point.

What do you all expect the Pac12 presidents to say publicly? What else can they say but "we will do what makes sense"? None of them are going to say they are staying in the PAC no matter what.

(06-07-2023 09:05 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(06-07-2023 06:34 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  Not a ringing endorsement on the future of the PAC.

"Right now, I think all 10 of us are solely focused on the deal," Robbins said. "Once we have that, we have degrees of freedom to make informed decisions."

That's coming from a guy who REALLY likes being in the Pac. He wants Kliavkoff to win and Yormark to hide his head in the sand for the next 6 months. And his ringing endorsement is "show us the money"? He has to be wondering when/if he'll ever see hard numbers at this point.

The dog ate it

(06-07-2023 07:23 PM)Sparty Baby 84 Wrote:  OP, thank you for posting this.

It turns out the rumors of the PAC's death were greatly exaggerated.

Now only one question remains, how could so many no-name bloggers without sources who have no journalistic credibility at stake whose off-brand energy drink/Manscaped will sponsor them either way who aren't actually privy to jack all of anything [*cough* Monty Show, Sicem365, et al] have been so wrong?

My theory is that literally all of these types of sources are just making things up. Ever notice how their only live/written testimony comes from their peers in the "fake sports news" industry? Everything else they give you for your attention and clicks is just "my sources say..." [blah, blah, blah], don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like this video, and stay with us for all the latest "updates."

This Pac drama has been highly unusual. Typically, Conferences have favored sources they use to strategically leak information, perhaps to even help them craft their response to bad news, etc etc. Wilzano have filled this role for the Pac for a long time. However, Kliavkoff has shut them off for 6 months. He's not leaking anything, or, perhaps, what he is trying to leak to them they're finding impossible to corroborate and thus they refuse to report it. In the absence of reliable information, we've become like the man dying of thirst; any water at this point, even potentially dirty water, is preferable to no water at all. Flugaur, MHver, Monty, and others of their ilk have happily rushed in to fill the void with their rampant speculation.