(06-09-2023 11:26 PM)Fanofreason Wrote:  So he admitted all they have seen is media projections. This deal is no where near done. ...

So, for at least CU and UA at this time, "are two birds in the hand worth more than none in the bush?"

Or, would they rather keep until it is too late?

(06-10-2023 06:16 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  

(06-09-2023 11:26 PM)Fanofreason Wrote:  So he admitted all they have seen is media projections. This deal is no where near done. ...

So, for at least CU and UA at this time, "are two birds in the hand worth more than none in the bush?"

Or, would they rather keep until it is too late?

If I’m in them in jumping.

The ever-accurate Swaim, on 6/8, said 'So my Denver guy tells me the #Buffs are "delaying, due to three holdouts on the board" that are "the academic snob types you’ve talked about", but he also believes strongly that they'll get it worked out before July 1st and that "Arizona just waiting on CU confirmation."'

If accurate, I wonder which are the three foot-draggers?

https://regents.cu.edu/meet-the-regents

(06-10-2023 08:52 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  The ever-accurate Swaim, on 6/8, said 'So my Denver guy tells me the #Buffs are "delaying, due to three holdouts on the board" that are "the academic snob types you’ve talked about", but he also believes strongly that they'll get it worked out before July 1st and that "Arizona just waiting on CU confirmation."'

If accurate, I wonder which are the three foot-draggers?

https://regents.cu.edu/meet-the-regents

If true (with a HUGE if), 3 really stick out with their academic histories as likely opposing. Wellesley grad, UCSB grad, and the one with professional ties to California.
Interestingly, but probably of no consequence, another one is a Houston grad.

(06-10-2023 08:52 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  The ever-accurate Swaim, on 6/8, said 'So my Denver guy tells me the #Buffs are "delaying, due to three holdouts on the board" that are "the academic snob types you’ve talked about", but he also believes strongly that they'll get it worked out before July 1st and that "Arizona just waiting on CU confirmation."'

If accurate, I wonder which are the three foot-draggers?

https://regents.cu.edu/meet-the-regents

Swaim is such a joke. It's amazing that anyone pays him any mind.

(06-09-2023 07:37 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(06-09-2023 07:32 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(06-09-2023 07:19 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(06-09-2023 06:45 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  ...howza 'bout the 'unequal revenue sharing' angle?

Will the lower 3-4 teams in the PAC be ok seeing the 'top dawgs' make considerably more per season? Those arrangements seldom work out long-term...

maybe so... and if it DOES hold together, I'd love to see them add SDSU and...



...Boise State... ...in honor of D-St and his tireless efforts - seriously!

The unequal revenue sharing has to do with earning extra units in post season play. Those that earn them keep a bigger share. Gonzaga has a similar deal in the WCC.

...gotcha - so the 'base' is the same for all... It seems like some of the 'outlets' talking this stuff up are saying that the top 2-3 programs will be making more, regardless... I mean, I reckon Oregon would be considered one of the top programs left, but back 4-5 seasons ago (pre-Christobal) they had a horrible season - thus no contribution to the 'post-season' (they MAY have made a small bowl)...

That is what I have heard. Not good to relegate some schools to second class status in perpetuity. This creates incentive for schools to try to reach the postseason and is completely fair to all involved. SDSU just earned the MWC $11M from their run this March that they will never see a dime of.

That is why Boise State got the deal to have their own rights to sell their home games to the highest bidder which made them more money than the rest of the MWC. Then MWC did what they did to them, and Boise State wants out of the MWC. MWC did them dirty. Without Boise State in the conference? They could wind up only making like a C-USA media deal.

(06-10-2023 10:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(06-10-2023 08:52 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  The ever-accurate Swaim, on 6/8, said 'So my Denver guy tells me the #Buffs are "delaying, due to three holdouts on the board" that are "the academic snob types you’ve talked about", but he also believes strongly that they'll get it worked out before July 1st and that "Arizona just waiting on CU confirmation."'

If accurate, I wonder which are the three foot-draggers?

https://regents.cu.edu/meet-the-regents

Swaim is such a joke. It's amazing that anyone pays him any mind.

I believe non of the board in CU will vote to move back to Big 12. They want to be with their academic peers than be in the cast of the Misfits that you have in the Big 12. Same with Arizona.

(06-10-2023 10:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(06-10-2023 08:52 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  The ever-accurate Swaim, on 6/8, said 'So my Denver guy tells me the #Buffs are "delaying, due to three holdouts on the board" that are "the academic snob types you’ve talked about", but he also believes strongly that they'll get it worked out before July 1st and that "Arizona just waiting on CU confirmation."'

If accurate, I wonder which are the three foot-draggers?

https://regents.cu.edu/meet-the-regents

Swaim is such a joke. It's amazing that anyone pays him any mind.

And this goes back to 2011. He’s been an inside joke on message boards all over for 12 years now.

There truly isn’t anyone lower than him.

Recently, the Baylor Sicem 365 board was threatening to make posting Swaim tweets a bannable offense, LOL.

(06-10-2023 10:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-09-2023 07:37 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(06-09-2023 07:32 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(06-09-2023 07:19 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(06-09-2023 06:45 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  ...howza 'bout the 'unequal revenue sharing' angle?

Will the lower 3-4 teams in the PAC be ok seeing the 'top dawgs' make considerably more per season? Those arrangements seldom work out long-term...

maybe so... and if it DOES hold together, I'd love to see them add SDSU and...



...Boise State... ...in honor of D-St and his tireless efforts - seriously!

The unequal revenue sharing has to do with earning extra units in post season play. Those that earn them keep a bigger share. Gonzaga has a similar deal in the WCC.

...gotcha - so the 'base' is the same for all... It seems like some of the 'outlets' talking this stuff up are saying that the top 2-3 programs will be making more, regardless... I mean, I reckon Oregon would be considered one of the top programs left, but back 4-5 seasons ago (pre-Christobal) they had a horrible season - thus no contribution to the 'post-season' (they MAY have made a small bowl)...

That is what I have heard. Not good to relegate some schools to second class status in perpetuity. This creates incentive for schools to try to reach the postseason and is completely fair to all involved. SDSU just earned the MWC $11M from their run this March that they will never see a dime of.

That is why Boise State got the deal to have their own rights to sell their home games to the highest bidder which made them more money than the rest of the MWC. Then MWC did what they did to them, and Boise State wants out of the MWC. MWC did them dirty. Without Boise State in the conference? They could wind up only making like a C-USA media deal.

Not exactly. The Mountain West sells the Boise games as a separate package, but the revenue goes to the MWC. Separately, Boise STate gets extra revenue. Originally, this was by a formula that rewarded national TV appearances, which Boise was pretty much guaranteed 6 of. In the 2020 or so contract, Boise just gets an extra $1.8M per year.

(06-10-2023 10:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(06-10-2023 08:52 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  The ever-accurate Swaim, on 6/8, said 'So my Denver guy tells me the #Buffs are "delaying, due to three holdouts on the board" that are "the academic snob types you’ve talked about", but he also believes strongly that they'll get it worked out before July 1st and that "Arizona just waiting on CU confirmation."'

If accurate, I wonder which are the three foot-draggers?

https://regents.cu.edu/meet-the-regents

Swaim is such a joke. It's amazing that anyone pays him any mind.

Well, he's preaching to the choir here.

(06-10-2023 11:09 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-10-2023 10:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(06-10-2023 08:52 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  The ever-accurate Swaim, on 6/8, said 'So my Denver guy tells me the #Buffs are "delaying, due to three holdouts on the board" that are "the academic snob types you’ve talked about", but he also believes strongly that they'll get it worked out before July 1st and that "Arizona just waiting on CU confirmation."'

If accurate, I wonder which are the three foot-draggers?

https://regents.cu.edu/meet-the-regents

Swaim is such a joke. It's amazing that anyone pays him any mind.

And this goes back to 2011. He’s been an inside joke on message boards all over for 12 years now.

There truly isn’t anyone lower than him.

Recently, the Baylor Sicem 365 board was threatening to make posting Swaim tweets a bannable offense, LOL.

MHVer3 gives him a run for the money, however.

(06-10-2023 10:58 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-10-2023 10:38 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(06-10-2023 08:52 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  The ever-accurate Swaim, on 6/8, said 'So my Denver guy tells me the #Buffs are "delaying, due to three holdouts on the board" that are "the academic snob types you’ve talked about", but he also believes strongly that they'll get it worked out before July 1st and that "Arizona just waiting on CU confirmation."'

If accurate, I wonder which are the three foot-draggers?

https://regents.cu.edu/meet-the-regents

Swaim is such a joke. It's amazing that anyone pays him any mind.

I believe non of the board in CU will vote to move back to Big 12. They want to be with their academic peers than be in the cast of the Misfits that you have in the Big 12. Same with Arizona.

David, I have to think Boise's chances of ever receiving an invitation to the Big XII have to be at least somewhat lower now. You know, even misfits have feelings.

(06-10-2023 02:55 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  MHVer3 gives him a run for the money, however.

Not lately; he's been very quiet. Must have lost his source?

DudeofWV would be having a field day, if still active.

(06-10-2023 04:50 PM)PlayBall! Wrote:  

(06-10-2023 02:55 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  MHVer3 gives him a run for the money, however.

Not lately; he's been very quiet. Must have lost his source?

DudeofWV would be having a field day, if still active.

Months ago he was saying the "4 corner" schools to the B12 would happen that week.

(06-09-2023 10:28 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  Considering the inflation, staying flat is effectively a pay cut.
....

This is all a matter of how you spin it. By B12 PR standards, staying flat after losing two powerhouse member schools is 'hitting all home runs.'



PAC schools, barring individual P2 call-ups, want to stay together. They need enough revenue to enable that. We'll see soon if that's forthcoming.

PAC schools also need conference rules that make it pretty easy to exit 5-6 years from now if a P2 call comes. We can be sure that detail is already taken care of. Let's not overlook its importance.

(06-10-2023 04:50 PM)PlayBall! Wrote:  ....
DudeofWV would be having a field day, if still active.

His departure left a much-needed void.

– Mark Twain