BigXII per school payout for 2022-2023: $44 million per school...

Kliavkoff is gonna need more blank envelope backs...

BIGXII per school in 2022-2023: $44 million per...

(06-02-2023 07:16 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  BigXII per school payout for 2022-2023: $44 million per school...

Kliavkoff is gonna need more blank envelope backs...

BIGXII per school in 2022-2023: $44 million per...

Estimates are a little over $50 million once the new contract starts. However. This is total, not just media payout. PAC will be higher too when considering total, not just media.

(06-02-2023 07:45 PM)otown Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 07:16 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  BigXII per school payout for 2022-2023: $44 million per school...

Kliavkoff is gonna need more blank envelope backs...

BIGXII per school in 2022-2023: $44 million per...

Estimates are a little over $50 million once the new contract starts. However. This is total, not just media payout. PAC will be higher too when considering total, not just media.

...well, yes... but how much will the PAC's 'linear / streaming' ratio play into it? Maybe the PAC will have a comprable deal, but it's taking a LONG time for that deal to go down... With the BigXII openly noting they are exploring expansion, you would think the PAC would be ready to wrap up their deal... I DO think there will be something happening this month... MOST likely...

(06-02-2023 07:54 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 07:45 PM)otown Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 07:16 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  BigXII per school payout for 2022-2023: $44 million per school...

Kliavkoff is gonna need more blank envelope backs...

BIGXII per school in 2022-2023: $44 million per...

Estimates are a little over $50 million once the new contract starts. However. This is total, not just media payout. PAC will be higher too when considering total, not just media.

...well, yes... but how much will the PAC's 'linear / streaming' ratio play into it? Maybe the PAC will have a comprable deal, but it's taking a LONG time for that deal to go down... With the BigXII openly noting they are exploring expansion, you would think the PAC would be ready to wrap up their deal... I DO think there will be something happen this month... MOST likely...

The back of the envelope calculations last fall were $50m big 12 and $45m Pac, but that was assuming similar media rights deals b/c the big 12 runs ahead with bowl money and NCAAT units, and ofc Comcast and Holiday Bowl lawsuits. If the Pac ends up at, say, $23.6m, that would be an additional $8m behind, for a total of $13m behind for 5-7 years. That's a lot to ask of the remaining Pac schools. And that's assuming no more noises from the ACC, which is a big assumption right now.

Monty was harping on about this in his monologue earlier today. While I haven’t dug into the numbers, I figured the PAC would be getting 30 million for the entire Tiered package (still far behind). So yeah, this looks bad, but not as bad when you add all the Tiers and Olympic sports.

Also mentioned was the Wazzou finances debacle. OreSt gets them on the west coast (Portland has no pro football) and gives Zaga a partner. Could they add Zaga OreSt for the price of one school (both partial shares). I’d try to do that if I’m Yormark post 4C joining.

Wazzou could be MWC bound alone in that scenario, which is interesting in of itself.

I'm pretty sure we've seen their paychecks and not every school received the same amount due to bowl payouts, CCG, etc. Also, this is with Texas and Oklahoma in the conference, and at 10 teams.

(06-02-2023 10:13 PM)esayem Wrote:  I'm pretty sure we've seen their paychecks and not every school received the same amount due to bowl payouts, CCG, etc. Also, this is with Texas and Oklahoma in the conference, and at 10 teams.

...the Championship game (TCU) didn't hurt the total, and did 'skew' it a bit... and not sure how much of a hit the deal takes with OUT leaving... ...but they keep noting any P5 add will be 'pro rata', so will be interesting to see how that works if any moves are made.

To me the 'wild card' for the PAC deal will be the percentage of streaming - as it appears that Apple is the main player, unless a 'player to be named later' shows up...

(06-02-2023 10:13 PM)esayem Wrote:  I'm pretty sure we've seen their paychecks and not every school received the same amount due to bowl payouts, CCG, etc. Also, this is with Texas and Oklahoma in the conference, and at 10 teams.

I’m not sure how the payout is figured out for next year. The four new schools will get a partial payout, not sure what that would be, but it will be a raise for them. I’m not sure how UT and OU are paying their $100M exit fee. It may be in the form of withheld distributions, but that should keep the remaining ten school whole for 2024. The new contract kicks in 2024-25 and I think all the new schools get full shares.

When you factor in the $50 million along with stadium naming rights, licensing, ticket sale, concession sales etc., could be $75 million plus per team depending on the team

(06-02-2023 08:50 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Also mentioned was the Wazzou finances debacle. OreSt gets them on the west coast (Portland has no pro football) and gives Zaga a partner. Could they add Zaga OreSt for the price of one school (both partial shares). I’d try to do that if I’m Yormark post 4C joining.

Wazzou could be MWC bound alone in that scenario, which is interesting in of itself.

Interesting because in this scenario, Wazzu falls behind Gonzaga in the pecking order, though Gonzaga doesn't have football.

(06-08-2023 05:40 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  When you factor in the $50 million along with stadium naming rights, licensing, ticket sale, concession sales etc., could be $75 million plus per team depending on the team

It will be a lot more than that. I read the other day that tOSU makes $8m per home game, then in another thread, someone else said that the top SEC teams make $10m per home game. We all have 100k stadiums, we're probably making the same as tOSU, but I don't know if $8m or $10m is the correct number. But either way, it's a lot. Even if it's only half that for big 12 schools, that's still $4-5m per home game.

Media rights deals are an easy way to compare conferences, but for the schools within the conference there has always been a lot of variance. The SEC has the tighest % range top to bottom of any P5 Confernce in Athletics revenue, yet last year we still had a 30% gap between #1 Georgia at $203m to #9 Missouri at $141m last year. And Ms St was only $110m. FSU, UVA and Clemson were at $160m last year fyi. So yeah, huge gap in total revenues for even SEC schools.