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(06-05-2023 03:31 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 03:19 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(06-04-2023 03:17 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(06-04-2023 01:03 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(06-04-2023 10:00 AM)colohank Wrote:  Assimilating Cincinnati State and its student body might get Cincy's enrollment up to 60,000 and increase campus acreage, but it would wreck admission standards. Cincy needs to stiffen admission standards, not relax them. AAU demands quality, not
If additional q is needed, then acquire the old Hebrew Union campus on Clifton Avenue.

I think that is a possibility, but Hebrew Union adds only ~300 students and a 10 acre plot.

Not Hebrew Union's students but just the acreage and buildings, assuming the structures have been well maintained and have any worth. Ten acres doesn't sound like a lot of land, but it equates to a parcel that's 840 feet X 1050 feet or thereabouts. In a heavily developed urban/suburban setting, that's a good chunk of real estate -- more than sufficient for a couple of McMicken-sized structures or dorm towers. If UC can't acquire Burnett Woods, then maybe envelope it to the extent that's possible. Such open space in proximity to a larger campus would continue to be a dandy amenity.

tunnel mlk

Tunnels can flood, are a bother to construct where there are pre-existing underground utilities, and they're creepy for the ladies. I think an elevated pedestrian crosswalk would be better. There are several where I live, part of an extensive trail system, which feature both stair and ramp access.

Washington University in Saint Louis has a tunnel under a fairly wide road to get to their residential block (plus some other administrative, on-campus shopping, activity and some sports fields. It works very well and is nice and airy, has murals and is constantly in use. And if washu and it's $85k/year price tag aren't too good for it, I think UC would be just fine.

(06-05-2023 01:03 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 08:33 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  So far, UC has done a good job of increasing enrollment without decreasing student quality. ACT scores are now close to 27 and avg gpa is around 3.7. The issue, I think, is that other schools are outpacing UC, and UC has stalled.

UC has also managed to boost enrollment despite lousy demographics. The B12 should enhance UC’s reach, as should UC’s competitive advantage against most other Ohio public schools. The outrageous cost of private education should help as well

Yup, sustained growth in enrollment at a time when smaller schools like Wright State or Akron are under existential threat. UC's growth is under the same model as OSU/Penn State -- big state flagship, high research drives, destination medical care center, big-time athletics, similar growth in faculty - etc. I was skeptical for a few years but the model UC has been under was prescient and puts us in a position to kick Miami U and Dayton in the nuts so we can keep the remainder of Cincinnati's high end talent in house.

I forgot to mention that a record number of students have applied to UC - 32,000 as of January. That’s 10,000 more than in 2020.

Why this happened, what the quality of the applicants is, and how many will actually enroll are unanswered questions, but I have to think this will enhance the acceptance rate.

https://www.newsrecord.org/news/uc-again...in%202020.

(06-05-2023 06:25 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:03 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 08:33 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  So far, UC has done a good job of increasing enrollment without decreasing student quality. ACT scores are now close to 27 and avg gpa is around 3.7. The issue, I think, is that other schools are outpacing UC, and UC has stalled.

UC has also managed to boost enrollment despite lousy demographics. The B12 should enhance UC’s reach, as should UC’s competitive advantage against most other Ohio public schools. The outrageous cost of private education should help as well

Yup, sustained growth in enrollment at a time when smaller schools like Wright State or Akron are under existential threat. UC's growth is under the same model as OSU/Penn State -- big state flagship, high research drives, destination medical care center, big-time athletics, similar growth in faculty - etc. I was skeptical for a few years but the model UC has been under was prescient and puts us in a position to kick Miami U and Dayton in the nuts so we can keep the remainder of Cincinnati's high end talent in house.

I forgot to mention that a record number of students have applied to UC - 32,000 as of January. That’s 10,000 more than in 2020.

Why this happened, what the quality of the applicants is, and how many will actually enroll are unanswered questions, but I have to think this will enhance the acceptance rate.

https://www.newsrecord.org/news/uc-again...in%202020.

Define enhance acceptance rate. Do you think it means a larger enrollment of so-so students, or do you think it will promote more selectivity?

(06-05-2023 11:28 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 06:25 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:03 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 08:33 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  So far, UC has done a good job of increasing enrollment without decreasing student quality. ACT scores are now close to 27 and avg gpa is around 3.7. The issue, I think, is that other schools are outpacing UC, and UC has stalled.

UC has also managed to boost enrollment despite lousy demographics. The B12 should enhance UC’s reach, as should UC’s competitive advantage against most other Ohio public schools. The outrageous cost of private education should help as well

Yup, sustained growth in enrollment at a time when smaller schools like Wright State or Akron are under existential threat. UC's growth is under the same model as OSU/Penn State -- big state flagship, high research drives, destination medical care center, big-time athletics, similar growth in faculty - etc. I was skeptical for a few years but the model UC has been under was prescient and puts us in a position to kick Miami U and Dayton in the nuts so we can keep the remainder of Cincinnati's high end talent in house.

I forgot to mention that a record number of students have applied to UC - 32,000 as of January. That’s 10,000 more than in 2020.

Why this happened, what the quality of the applicants is, and how many will actually enroll are unanswered questions, but I have to think this will enhance the acceptance rate.

https://www.newsrecord.org/news/uc-again...in%202020.

Define enhance acceptance rate. Do you think it means a larger enrollment of so-so students, or do you think it will promote more selectivity?

I guess we won’t know until UC provides the numbers, but the article says it will be the “academically strongest” class ever. That implies more selectivity. Or the quality of the applicants is better.

Edited to add: I suspect “academically strongest” means a small-modest, incremental improvement in some metric so that claim can be made. It will be engineered to be able to claim both academic and diversity improvement

(06-05-2023 05:35 PM)the_dude Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 03:31 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 03:19 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(06-04-2023 03:17 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(06-04-2023 01:03 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I think that is a possibility, but Hebrew Union adds only ~300 students and a 10 acre plot.

Not Hebrew Union's students but just the acreage and buildings, assuming the structures have been well maintained and have any worth. Ten acres doesn't sound like a lot of land, but it equates to a parcel that's 840 feet X 1050 feet or thereabouts. In a heavily developed urban/suburban setting, that's a good chunk of real estate -- more than sufficient for a couple of McMicken-sized structures or dorm towers. If UC can't acquire Burnett Woods, then maybe envelope it to the extent that's possible. Such open space in proximity to a larger campus would continue to be a dandy amenity.

tunnel mlk

Tunnels can flood, are a bother to construct where there are pre-existing underground utilities, and they're creepy for the ladies. I think an elevated pedestrian crosswalk would be better. There are several where I live, part of an extensive trail system, which feature both stair and ramp access.

Washington University in Saint Louis has a tunnel under a fairly wide road to get to their residential block (plus some other administrative, on-campus shopping, activity and some sports fields. It works very well and is nice and airy, has murals and is constantly in use. And if washu and it's $85k/year price tag aren't too good for it, I think UC would be just fine.

Yeah
I want something unique. But it may be cost prohibitive. If they did do a tunnel- could we have to scan ID to enter so it was just students or staff?

(06-08-2023 11:22 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 05:35 PM)the_dude Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 03:31 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 03:19 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(06-04-2023 03:17 PM)colohank Wrote:  Not Hebrew Union's students but just the acreage and buildings, assuming the structures have been well maintained and have any worth. Ten acres doesn't sound like a lot of land, but it equates to a parcel that's 840 feet X 1050 feet or thereabouts. In a heavily developed urban/suburban setting, that's a good chunk of real estate -- more than sufficient for a couple of McMicken-sized structures or dorm towers. If UC can't acquire Burnett Woods, then maybe envelope it to the extent that's possible. Such open space in proximity to a larger campus would continue to be a dandy amenity.

tunnel mlk

Tunnels can flood, are a bother to construct where there are pre-existing underground utilities, and they're creepy for the ladies. I think an elevated pedestrian crosswalk would be better. There are several where I live, part of an extensive trail system, which feature both stair and ramp access.

Washington University in Saint Louis has a tunnel under a fairly wide road to get to their residential block (plus some other administrative, on-campus shopping, activity and some sports fields. It works very well and is nice and airy, has murals and is constantly in use. And if washu and it's $85k/year price tag aren't too good for it, I think UC would be just fine.

Yeah
I want something unique. But it may be cost prohibitive. If they did do a tunnel- could we have to scan ID to enter so it was just students or staff?

"Students and staff" and "creeps" are not mutually exclusive terms.