(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 12:11 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  Logo looks cool but they probably should change it to WHO? because that will be the reaction when those new schools are introduced in cusa. Who? Where? What?

The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Don't undersell it. Facebook is global.

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

They did, but what did anyone expect? CUSA had no bargaining power with only 9 teams, 4 of which are new. So much turnover. They had to get back on the good graces of ESPN and CBS Sports Network, which they did. Only a short term deal but yes, they have to live with October weekday games, just like the MAC.

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

(05-31-2023 04:35 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

They did, but what did anyone expect? CUSA had no bargaining power with only 9 teams, 4 of which are new. So much turnover. They had to get back on the good graces of ESPN and CBS Sports Network, which they did. Only a short term deal but yes, they have to live with October weekday games, just like the MAC.

I'm curious what the attendance trends will be over the course of 5 years with all of those midweek games. Many fans that were used to Saturday games will not be able to go anymore, and will probably drop season tickets.

A friend I know from JSU that has had season tix for about 7 years or so has already decided not to renew his family package, simply because they can't make it to most of the games with their work schedule.

Does this mean they will get rid of the title 9 commercial? I always thought it was amusing that CUSA was the only conference to have a commercial supporting something which wasn't the conference.

And just so no one gets upset on this. I'm fine with anyone supporting title 9. I just thought it was silly that the conference spent over a million dollars over several years, making and buying timeslots, to advertise something other than themselves.

(05-31-2023 03:56 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 12:11 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  Logo looks cool but they probably should change it to WHO? because that will be the reaction when those new schools are introduced in cusa. Who? Where? What?

The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

On paper I'm jealous of this, but the MAC has shown that its not worth it to sell out for weekday games. It sucks seeing a school like SHSU who hasnt earned anything get 7 games on TV and we'll have none but when we start winning more games we'll get on TV and actually be on ESPN or ESPN2

SHSU is going to lose in the long run on this. They already struggle tremendously with attendance. How do you think these midweek games are going to shape their attendance going forward?

(05-31-2023 11:18 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  This isn't a drastic rebrand. They are simplifying the logo, eliminating the silver outlining on the letters and star, going monotone color for all lettering, and only the star will be a contrasting color.

Their new conference tagline is "Future Focused", which of all the conference taglines, that certainly is one of them.



The logo simplification works. The tagline doesn't hit any note.

I don't think this is the new logo they're going with. From what I've read, July 1 will be the date they unveil their refreshed branding.

They wouldn't give a July 1 release date, and then give you their new logo the same day they announced their release date.

(05-31-2023 04:43 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

You misspelled “CBS Sports Network.”

(05-31-2023 05:08 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Does this mean they will get rid of the title 9 commercial? I always thought it was amusing that CUSA was the only conference to have a commercial supporting something which wasn't the conference.

That had me rolling as we played out our last year in CUSA.

The SBC promo featured all these game highlights and touted the league’s OOC record and bowl success. The CUSA promo had a 6-year-old girl saying, “Thank you, Title IX!”

But what else should you expect when your commissioner is quoted in print lamenting how everyone in college sports is “so danged competitive.”

(05-31-2023 04:43 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

Not totally true. 9 Saturday games are on CBS Network. 1 is on ESPN. 1 is on ESPNU.

(05-31-2023 05:57 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:43 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

Not totally true. 9 Saturday games are on CBS Network. 1 is on ESPN. 1 is on ESPNU.

That honestly sounds a lot better than what the former members had to endure. I'm assuming CBS Sports Network is more accessible than Facebook and Stadium.

(05-31-2023 05:57 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:43 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

Not totally true. 9 Saturday games are on CBS Network. 1 is on ESPN. 1 is on ESPNU.

(05-31-2023 06:12 PM)TealNation Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 05:57 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:43 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

Not totally true. 9 Saturday games are on CBS Network. 1 is on ESPN. 1 is on ESPNU.

That honestly sounds a lot better than what the former members had to endure. I'm assuming CBS Sports Network is more accessible than Facebook and Stadium.

From what I can tell, the viewership of CBS Sports Network is relatively tiny. ESPN is #6, NBC SN is #145, CBS SN isn't even shown in the top 150 networks.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/most-wa...235475170/

They do have roughly 40 million subs, but a lot of that is likely due to bundling/packages. I have it a sports bundle, but almost never watch it.

(05-31-2023 05:25 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:56 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 12:11 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  Logo looks cool but they probably should change it to WHO? because that will be the reaction when those new schools are introduced in cusa. Who? Where? What?

The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

On paper I'm jealous of this, but the MAC has shown that its not worth it to sell out for weekday games. It sucks seeing a school like SHSU who hasnt earned anything get 7 games on TV and we'll have none but when we start winning more games we'll get on TV and actually be on ESPN or ESPN2

SHSU is going to lose in the long run on this. They already struggle tremendously with attendance. How do you think these midweek games are going to shape their attendance going forward?

They literally have nothing to lose attendance wise lol

(05-31-2023 08:14 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 05:25 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:56 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 12:11 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  Logo looks cool but they probably should change it to WHO? because that will be the reaction when those new schools are introduced in cusa. Who? Where? What?

The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

On paper I'm jealous of this, but the MAC has shown that its not worth it to sell out for weekday games. It sucks seeing a school like SHSU who hasnt earned anything get 7 games on TV and we'll have none but when we start winning more games we'll get on TV and actually be on ESPN or ESPN2

SHSU is going to lose in the long run on this. They already struggle tremendously with attendance. How do you think these midweek games are going to shape their attendance going forward?

They literally have nothing to lose attendance wise lol

Well, they had a *few* fans, but seem to be losing them already.

From the SHSU forum a few days ago:

Quote:I did not renew my tickets for two reasons. First reason was they got rid of all of the incentives/perks (shirts, banners, breakfast and scrimmage for ticket pickup, etc. The second is the new schedule has too many weekday games.

This is for season tickets selling for $50 for 5 games. Maybe some folks will show up if they give away tickets in happy meals and promise a t-shirt, dinner, and concert afterward.

(05-31-2023 04:13 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Is every MAC weekday game a freezing rainy affair? Im sure a lot are but I'm sure there's plenty that take place on beautiful nights as well. I also could be underestimating how cold it gets in those parts that time of year

not always rainy.. sometimes it snows :) (Anyone remember the "Snow Bowl" Mac Championship with the Herd and Western MI?)

(05-31-2023 05:57 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:43 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

Not totally true. 9 Saturday games are on CBS Network. 1 is on ESPN. 1 is on ESPNU.

Are the lone ESPN and ESPNU games conference matchups? Or OOC matchups?

(06-01-2023 05:40 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 05:57 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:43 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 03:29 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  The nation is going to have plenty of television time to get used to CUSA teams. Here is how many times these teams are on national TV this year:

Liberty - 8
Jax State - 6
Sam Houston St - 7
New Mexico St - 5
MTSU - 5
WKU - 6
UTEP - 8
FIU - 6
La. Tech - 7

Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

Not totally true. 9 Saturday games are on CBS Network. 1 is on ESPN. 1 is on ESPNU.

Are the lone ESPN and ESPNU games conference matchups? Or OOC matchups?

LaTech at SMU on opening Saturday is on ESPNU. Also if you are a LT fan, you have consecutive Tuesday night games in October on CBSSN. Thanks Judy.

(05-31-2023 11:21 PM)Herdfan1 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:13 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Is every MAC weekday game a freezing rainy affair? Im sure a lot are but I'm sure there's plenty that take place on beautiful nights as well. I also could be underestimating how cold it gets in those parts that time of year

not always rainy.. sometimes it snows :) (Anyone remember the "Snow Bowl" Mac Championship with the Herd and Western MI?)

And the wind!!! Anyone remember the wind at NIU and WMU every time we'd play out there? OMG it was like playing in a tornado.

(06-01-2023 06:42 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 05:40 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 05:57 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:43 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 04:10 PM)Eagle in the gym Wrote:  Didn’t that conference sell out to Tuesday and Wednesday nights for a month for the entire conference? I’d be unhappy if our season ticket pitch included a month without a Saturday kickoff.

Correct. Every single game that's on ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU will be a midweek game. ESPN gave them absolutely nothing on Saturdays.

All remaining Saturday games for CUSA will be on ESPN+. It's going to ruin the fan bases, no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

Not totally true. 9 Saturday games are on CBS Network. 1 is on ESPN. 1 is on ESPNU.

Are the lone ESPN and ESPNU games conference matchups? Or OOC matchups?

LaTech at SMU on opening Saturday is on ESPNU. Also if you are a LT fan, you have consecutive Tuesday night games in October on CBSSN. Thanks Judy.

If it's at SMU then it's an AAC aired game under their contract.

2 Thursdays in October just to be on CBSSN sucks. Fans gotta hate that.