I Still attend games--went to 4 last season in FB---3 BB--just stopped with the donations and won't be buying season tickets again. I also won't be giving any NIL $$$. I have better things to do with my money than to give to a woke university. Kids Grand children etc etc

The difference is -I AM NOT THE ONE ON HERE beating up and throwing stones and chastising fellow TIGER fans about attendance --YOU ARE !

Get the Mote out of your own eye

(05-25-2023 09:22 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  I Still attend games--went to 4 last season in FB---3 BB--just stopped with the donations and won't be buying season tickets again. I also won't be giving any NIL $$$. I have better things to do with my money than to give to a woke university. Kids Grand children etc etc

The difference is -I AM NOT THE ONE ON HERE beating up and throwing stones and chastising fellow TIGER fans about attendance --YOU ARE !

Get the Mote out of your own eye

Good for you, you spent $80. If the shoe fits, too bad Simple Jack. 20 excuses...

The biggest problem is the product on the floor is hard to watch. A bunch of dudes shooting bricks is no fun to pay good money to see

(05-25-2023 09:22 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  I Still attend games--went to 4 last season in FB---3 BB--just stopped with the donations and won't be buying season tickets again. I also won't be giving any NIL $$$. I have better things to do with my money than to give to a woke university. Kids Grand children etc etc

The difference is -I AM NOT THE ONE ON HERE beating up and throwing stones and chastising fellow TIGER fans about attendance --YOU ARE !

Get the Mote out of your own eye

You always runnin off the folks like me that caint take you actin all all the time . I thought that was against the rules but may be I got that wrong

(05-25-2023 10:00 PM)batman Wrote:  The biggest problem is the product on the floor is hard to watch. A bunch of dudes shooting bricks is no fun to pay good money to see

We have been a tournament team the last two years. Any excuse...

(05-25-2023 10:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:00 PM)batman Wrote:  The biggest problem is the product on the floor is hard to watch. A bunch of dudes shooting bricks is no fun to pay good money to see

We have been a tournament team the last two years. Any excuse...

It's still terrible ball to watch. Not just the Tigers but college basketball in general

Here's the thing---going to games is fine and dandy/great/awesome-but it's not the end- all be- all to be a fan .

I know shut-ins that haven't attended games in years , and the world would have to end before they would miss a game TV or radio. They know every stat from James Earl/Lucky Lloyd--to White/Henigan---from Wilfong/Lee-to Penny/Williams. There are no better fans than these

I have always considered myself the best #1 TIGER fan in the history of the world--ask anyone that knows me.

As a teen and young adult ushering at MEMPHIS MEMORIAL and the COLISEUM to see the TIGERS-- buying season tickets for years--and attending many road games for years .

NONE OF THAT made me a better fan than the people that wanted to attend that couldn't for various reasons ----or attended much fewer games .

The excuses that a poster made light of ----for some fans they are real legitimate concerns when attending a game.

Whether it be -health/cost/fear or all of the excuses the poster stated--just because they can't or don't attend as much as some others ------THEY STILL BLEED BLUE/GRAY IN MY EYES

(05-25-2023 10:06 PM)Wilbur Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 09:22 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  I Still attend games--went to 4 last season in FB---3 BB--just stopped with the donations and won't be buying season tickets again. I also won't be giving any NIL $$$. I have better things to do with my money than to give to a woke university. Kids Grand children etc etc

The difference is -I AM NOT THE ONE ON HERE beating up and throwing stones and chastising fellow TIGER fans about attendance --YOU ARE !

Get the Mote out of your own eye

You always runnin off the folks like me that caint take you actin all all the time . I thought that was against the rules but may be I got that wrong

Hey --good to see you Wilbur--I used to enjoy your posts--visit more often--post more often my fellow TIGER fan

(05-25-2023 10:49 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Here's the thing---going to games is fine and dandy/great/awesome-but it's not the end- all be- all to be a fan .

I know shut-ins that haven't attended games in years , and the world would have to end before they would miss a game TV or radio. They know every stat from James Earl/Lucky Lloyd--to White/Henigan---from Wilfong/Lee-to Penny/Williams. There are no better fans than these

I have always considered myself the best #1 TIGER fan in the history of the world--ask anyone that knows me.

As a teen and young adult ushering at MEMPHIS MEMORIAL and the COLISEUM to see the TIGERS-- buying season tickets for years--and attending many road games for years .

NONE OF THAT made me a better fan than the people that wanted to attend that couldn't for various reasons ----or attended much fewer games .

The excuses that a poster made light of ----for some fans they are real legitimate concerns when attending a game.

Whether it be -health/cost/fear or all of the excuses the poster stated--just because they can't or don't attend as much as some others ------THEY STILL BLEED BLUE/GRAY IN MY EYES

Quote:Whether it be -health/cost/fear or all of the excuses the poster stated--just because they can't or don't attend as much as some others ------THEY STILL BLEED BLUE/GRAY IN MY EYES. The excuses that a poster made light of ----for some fans they are real legitimate concerns when attending a game.

You have to be not too bright to use this argument, because you are arguing against yourself. Are you saying that we are the only program in the country with fans that have "legitimate concerns" that prevent them from going to games? Are you really trying to use your own clown argument against yourself?

We announced 36,000 for the last game of the year against Cincinnati in 2019. There were probably a little over 40,000 there, but still. We announced 33,000 for the AACCG and there were under 40,000 there.

You bleed whatever when it is convenient. You don't watch bowl games, you only go to our games when tickets are $5, you don't go because of stickers, you don't want players to be paid, you want 6-6 teams in the playoffs.

Every excuse in the book for Simple Jack.

(05-25-2023 04:13 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 01:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 11:54 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 11:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s just a different time. I heard someone on the radio trailing about firing coaches because of attendance. That we shouldn’t have fired Tubby and now we are saying the same thing about Penny. First off Tubby was not just fired for attendance. It was obvious to everyone that he had no desire to even recruit or thought that he could do better than 5th place. Penny on the other hand is facing way more obstacles now with money. Economy stinks. Prices are too high for a lot of fans to go. Crime is rampant. And then you throw the NIL in there and it’s one big mess. Memphis fans will still come for what they think is an “event” and that’s it. What even will we have next season? Virginia and FAU? It’s a big problem but there’s not one particular thing that causing it

For me it's lack of star power, lack of a quality top 25 team (last year's team was good IMO but to casual fans they want to see a # next to their team), lack of marquee home games, and probably a little Covid burnout still, as well.

I live in a no excuse city when it comes to hockey. We average over 21,000 attendance per game which is the highest in hockey every year, and at one point went something like 16 years selling out every single game. We have 41 regular season home games per year, plus 5 exhibition games. The average ticket price is $90 USD, and season ticket holders have to buy tickets to the exhibition games at the full price. At one point there was a 20 year wait list for season tickets.

When we played a road playoff game in 2010, 21,000 tickets to our HOME arena were sold in an hour to watch the game on a giant screen.

South Carolina mostly sucks but still averages 80,000 per game when they go 4-8. Nashville...frigging NASHVILLE is the 3rd most expensive place to watch a game in the entire NHL and average over 17,000 per game.

Our fans have so many excuses it is ridiculous. Games aren't played on the same street they live on, and they have to drive 30 minutes or more to games, games aren't on campus, are downtown, are in the Pinch neighborhood with nothing else to do, traffic leaving the stadium/arena, games against not great opponents, no stars on the team, bad weather, church, high school football, no parking, ticket prices, the cost of concessions, the cost of food and drinks on Beale, the coach isn't good, the coach isn't nice, the conference sucks, crappy music on the PA system, don't like the Ashley Furniture commercials, too many ads during timeouts, PA system is too loud, don't like PA announcer, helmet stickers, heat, cold, rain, not wanting to spend the day/night at a game when the weather is perfect, youth soccer, the bathrooms, the scoreboard showing a couple singing Rocky Top, the sirens, poor sound quality, no chairbacks, portable chairbacks going up $5 per game in price, Tiger Lane prices going up $200, The Grizzlies, the circus, flat screen tv's...

I've never seen anything like it.

You left out had to work 12 hours in an office.

https://www.indeed.com/m/

(05-25-2023 10:00 PM)batman Wrote:  The biggest problem is the product on the floor is hard to watch. A bunch of dudes shooting bricks is no fun to pay good money to see

memphis lead the conference in field goal percentage

and were #22 in the nation in field goal percentage
for the 2022-23 season

(05-25-2023 10:41 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:00 PM)batman Wrote:  The biggest problem is the product on the floor is hard to watch. A bunch of dudes shooting bricks is no fun to pay good money to see

We have been a tournament team the last two years. Any excuse...

It's still terrible ball to watch. Not just the Tigers but college basketball in general

The nba isn’t much better. It’s all basically who gets hot from 3. Plus the refs have too much leeway into who wins the games imo. Plus the endless timeouts at the end in both college and pro. The Tigers actually had a regulation game this past season that was about 3 hours long.

(05-25-2023 01:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 11:54 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 11:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s just a different time. I heard someone on the radio trailing about firing coaches because of attendance. That we shouldn’t have fired Tubby and now we are saying the same thing about Penny. First off Tubby was not just fired for attendance. It was obvious to everyone that he had no desire to even recruit or thought that he could do better than 5th place. Penny on the other hand is facing way more obstacles now with money. Economy stinks. Prices are too high for a lot of fans to go. Crime is rampant. And then you throw the NIL in there and it’s one big mess. Memphis fans will still come for what they think is an “event” and that’s it. What even will we have next season? Virginia and FAU? It’s a big problem but there’s not one particular thing that causing it

For me it's lack of star power, lack of a quality top 25 team (last year's team was good IMO but to casual fans they want to see a # next to their team), lack of marquee home games, and probably a little Covid burnout still, as well.

I live in a no excuse city when it comes to hockey. We average over 21,000 attendance per game which is the highest in hockey every year, and at one point went something like 16 years selling out every single game. We have 41 regular season home games per year, plus 5 exhibition games. The average ticket price is $90 USD, and season ticket holders have to buy tickets to the exhibition games at the full price. At one point there was a 20 year wait list for season tickets.

When we played a road playoff game in 2010, 21,000 tickets to our HOME arena were sold in an hour to watch the game on a giant screen.

South Carolina mostly sucks but still averages 80,000 per game when they go 4-8. Nashville...frigging NASHVILLE is the 3rd most expensive place to watch a game in the entire NHL and average over 17,000 per game.

Our fans have so many excuses it is ridiculous. Games aren't played on the same street they live on, and they have to drive 30 minutes or more to games, games aren't on campus, are downtown, are in the Pinch neighborhood with nothing else to do, traffic leaving the stadium/arena, games against not great opponents, no stars on the team, bad weather, church, high school football, no parking, ticket prices, the cost of concessions, the cost of food and drinks on Beale, the coach isn't good, the coach isn't nice, the conference sucks, crappy music on the PA system, don't like the Ashley Furniture commercials, too many ads during timeouts, PA system is too loud, don't like PA announcer, helmet stickers, heat, cold, rain, not wanting to spend the day/night at a game when the weather is perfect, youth soccer, the bathrooms, the scoreboard showing a couple singing Rocky Top, the sirens, poor sound quality, no chairbacks, portable chairbacks going up $5 per game in price, Tiger Lane prices going up $200, The Grizzlies, the circus, flat screen tv's...

I've never seen anything like it.

It’s pretty amazing. Some of the reasons so laughable.


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(05-25-2023 10:41 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:00 PM)batman Wrote:  The biggest problem is the product on the floor is hard to watch. A bunch of dudes shooting bricks is no fun to pay good money to see

We have been a tournament team the last two years. Any excuse...

It's still terrible ball to watch. Not just the Tigers but college basketball in general

It's not the poor caliber of play out has me turned off of college basketball: it's the disjointed mess of constant breaks and stoppages. There is zero flow to the game anymore - you have a mandatory TV timeout every 4 minutes and boatloads of fouls. Then each team gets 4 timeouts and 3 of which are generally saved for the final minute of a close game. As players foul out the coach has 1 minute to replace the player.

Video reviews take way too long to resolve and are yet another lengthy stoppage in the action. Why would the players need to be in great shape rather than han just good shape. They get to stand around more than run around.

It is rare to see an uniterrupted stretch of even 2 minutes of ball.

The final 30 seconds can literally take 10 minutes to 'play'.


The shot clock was great as it eliminated the mind numbing 4-corners.

I can see arguments both ways for the three point shot.

Overall college basketball to me is an unwatchable, disjointed mess.

(05-25-2023 10:58 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:06 PM)Wilbur Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 09:22 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  I Still attend games--went to 4 last season in FB---3 BB--just stopped with the donations and won't be buying season tickets again. I also won't be giving any NIL $$$. I have better things to do with my money than to give to a woke university. Kids Grand children etc etc

The difference is -I AM NOT THE ONE ON HERE beating up and throwing stones and chastising fellow TIGER fans about attendance --YOU ARE !

Get the Mote out of your own eye

You always runnin off the folks like me that caint take you actin all all the time . I thought that was against the rules but may be I got that wrong

Hey --good to see you Wilbur--I used to enjoy your posts--visit more often--post more often my fellow TIGER fan

Shoot now I feel bad but some times youd make a Catfish jump in a frying pan. And I know mr stammers gets on to some of you fellers but yall always being racist about him being the Canadian so what about that.

Gets back to my consistent question.....exactly who at the U of M has the responsibility of increasing attendance at home games? The answer....no one.

(05-26-2023 09:21 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Gets back to my consistent question.....exactly who at the U of M has the responsibility of increasing attendance at home games? The answer....no one.

College sports is one of the few remaining businesses (yes, at this point the 'revenue' sports are businesses - nothing more) where you can blame the customer and have people defend that position.

It's not amateur athletes competing for the name on the front of the jersey.

It's naive to think that it is.

This is the model most people wanted so.....with what it really costs all in for a family to attend a football or basketball game - the product and game day experience matter.

There is competition for disposable entertainment dollars.

What other professional sport demands and expects its fans to make donations in addition to the costs of seat licenses / ticket pricing?

(05-26-2023 09:19 AM)Wilbur Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:58 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:06 PM)Wilbur Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 09:22 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  I Still attend games--went to 4 last season in FB---3 BB--just stopped with the donations and won't be buying season tickets again. I also won't be giving any NIL $$$. I have better things to do with my money than to give to a woke university. Kids Grand children etc etc

The difference is -I AM NOT THE ONE ON HERE beating up and throwing stones and chastising fellow TIGER fans about attendance --YOU ARE !

Get the Mote out of your own eye

You always runnin off the folks like me that caint take you actin all all the time . I thought that was against the rules but may be I got that wrong

Hey --good to see you Wilbur--I used to enjoy your posts--visit more often--post more often my fellow TIGER fan

Shoot now I feel bad but some times youd make a Catfish jump in a frying pan. And I know mr stammers gets on to some of you fellers but yall always being racist about him being the Canadian so what about that.

Guilty as charged. I've never liked the French.

(05-26-2023 09:21 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Gets back to my consistent question.....exactly who at the U of M has the responsibility of increasing attendance at home games? The answer....no one.

Well they do have some students or whoever it is that call EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. Doesn’t matter how many times you tell them to stop calling, take me off your list, etc they continue to do so. Way too expensive for the products on the field and court when every game is on TV. That means my recliner or patio, no dumb a$$ morons and crowds to deal with, cheaper beer and can change channel when I want to. We still go to a few games but my gosh, lay off the telemarketing BS over there at the ticket office!

(05-26-2023 08:52 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:41 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:12 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 10:00 PM)batman Wrote:  The biggest problem is the product on the floor is hard to watch. A bunch of dudes shooting bricks is no fun to pay good money to see

We have been a tournament team the last two years. Any excuse...

It's still terrible ball to watch. Not just the Tigers but college basketball in general

It's not the poor caliber of play out has me turned off of college basketball: it's the disjointed mess of constant breaks and stoppages. There is zero flow to the game anymore - you have a mandatory TV timeout every 4 minutes and boatloads of fouls. Then each team gets 4 timeouts and 3 of which are generally saved for the final minute of a close game. As players foul out the coach has 1 minute to replace the player.

Video reviews take way too long to resolve and are yet another lengthy stoppage in the action. Why would the players need to be in great shape rather than han just good shape. They get to stand around more than run around.

It is rare to see an uniterrupted stretch of even 2 minutes of ball.

The final 30 seconds can literally take 10 minutes to 'play'.


The shot clock was great as it eliminated the mind numbing 4-corners.

I can see arguments both ways for the three point shot.

Overall college basketball to me is an unwatchable, disjointed mess.

so 30+ years later you have an issue

The NCAA basketball four-minute TV timeouts were implemented during the 1990-1991 season as a way to increase revenue for the NCAA and its television partners. These timeouts occur at the first dead ball under the 16-minute, 12-minute, 8-minute, and 4-minute media timeouts in each half of the game.