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What Do You WANT To Happen In Realignment?
We've all been secretly (or not so secretly) rooting for what we want to happen behind the thin veil of predictions more or less. Here is your chance to tell us what you actually want to happen. Let it loose!

I strongly believe Five Major Conferences (we won't even use the term "Power" because it's been hijacked) in college football and Six Major Conferences (Power still works here) in college basketball is what is BEST for those sports. Conferences becoming Super Conferences of more than 16 is no longer a Conference, but a Convention! I don't see the long term feasibility of this anyway because college athletics are much more dynamic than their professional counterparts. Throw in the fact that we are dealing with government institutions for the most part and evidence in the past has shown legislators will not allow an exclusive club; see BCS and fifth bowl. I also believe the ACC GOR will hold based on evidence that has been coming out lately. This is what I believe.



Now for what I would like to see happen…

Outside of total fantasy options, I would like to see:


The Pac 10 remain the Pac 12 with the addition of San Diego State and SMU

The Big XII become the Big XIV with the addition of Memphis and UNLV

The AAC bring in UMass (all-sports), VCU (Olympic sports), and UConn football-only

The MWC replace the schools they lost or not, I haven't given this much thought. I do think it would be cool to see Montana move up because I’ve always liked their program

The A10 invite William & Mary and reunite the Tribe with the Spiders
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Florida State joins the SEC, anything else is just gravy.
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Pulling for Memphis in Big 12 (way more likely) or ACC.

P5 includes 80 teams....four 20x4 conferences or five 16x5.

Memphis is in Big 12 and back with closest peers Houston, Cincy, UCF, etc. or in ACC with other like metro schools Louisville, Pitt, etc.

But mainly pulling for Big 12 because this is most realistic near term option.
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More ACC teams in the Big Ten.
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RE: What Do You WANT To Happen In Realignment?
My fantasy scorecard

SEC adds UNC VA Tech FSU Kansas

Big Ten adds Stanford And Washington

ACC adds WVU Cinci UCF Memphis

Big 12 and Pac merge
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I’d like to see FSU join either the SEC or the Big 10, or I’d like the southern football-focused ACC schools to leave the ACC and start a new southern based conference with the top programs left in the southern and eastern Big 12 and perhaps a a few AAC schools.
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I would like whatever has to happen that results in UTEP & NMSU joining the MWC. That helps the geography of CUSA immensely while benefitting the Miners and Aggies geographically. The fact that it may not be beneficial to the MWC is irrelevant to me.
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I would like to see at least four major all-sports leagues. And seeing the five we have now remain (though, realistically, with some future changes) might even be better than four. To esayem's point, I do think having five is healthy for college sports.

For selfish reasons, if Memphis does not eventually end up in the Big 12 (or even a future altered ACC), I would also be fine with seeing — after everything shakes out with the five autonomous leagues — a merger of the Mountain West and AAC.

Despite what I want to see happen, I have posted on this board that we could eventually see only three major all-sports conferences. I hope that does not happen as I feel it would hurt so many rivalries, and rivalries are, largely, what make college sports interesting.

Relatedly, I strongly want to see the Big East remain as a viable league (even if it loses UConn), as I enjoy watching DePaul play Big East competition. However, and as I have posted, I could see a scenario in which the BE's four to six top brands are variously added to the future Big 12 and future ACC. On this topic, if we see five major all-sports leagues remain long term, the chances of the Big East's top brands leaving are much less likely (which is all the more reason I would be fine with have college sports retain five autonomous leagues as I want DePaul as a member of a stable and strong Big East).
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RE: What Do You WANT To Happen In Realignment?
B1G + California, Oregon, Stanford, Washington
SEC + Clemson, Florida St, Miami, North Carolina
ACC + Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, South Florida, West Virginia
XVI - Central Florida, Cincinnati, Houston, West Virginia + Arizona, Arizona St, Colorado, Oregon St, San Diego St, SMU, Utah, Washington St
MWC - San Diego St + Navy*, North Texas, Rice, Tulane, Tulsa, UTEP, UTSA, Wichita St^
AAC - Memphis, Navy*, North Texas, Rice, South Florida, Tulane, Tulsa, UTSA, Wichita St^ + Army*, CUSA (- UTEP)
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SMU and SDSU to the Pac-12
UConn and Memphis to the Big 12

Still have 5 major football conferences and 6 major basketball conferences.
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Swarbrick a respected man in the College Football World tells you he thinks everyone will be oriented around two spheres, the SEC and the Big 10.

The board meets those remarks with a good deal of denial.

The Nebraska president tells us that more expansion is coming within a couple of years.

The board meets those remarks with some speculation and some denial.

People are weary of change, but that's not going to stop it.

Texas and Oklahoma moved, USC and UCLA moved, people were shocked and then went right back into denial that indeed, sweeping changes were coming.

If the Big 10 and SEC held some top-secret high-level discussions and decided to divide the rest of the PAC 12 and ACC up so that each would have 24 schools, I promise you it wouldn't look like anything we would want. Compromise would have to be involved in that process and nobody would be 100% satisfied with a compromise decision reached by agreement of 32 presidents and 2 commissioners. Even if the compromise was done among just the two commissioners it would not be as fan friendly as most would want.

Let me make this clear, I am not denying that it is quite possible such a compromise has been struck, I'm just stating that it is likely something to which I might say, "Yeah I would have taken those 3, but who in the hell picked the other 5?"

And all of it presupposes that the other schools are ready to move.

And what is really, really strange here is that I firmly believe this is true. Normally I'd say it is one thing for us to believe the SEC and Big 10 just divided out and agreed upon who goes where, but it is wholly another to say "and all the schools will go along."

Maybe California, Oregon, Stanford and Washington just needed to know that there was no way they were remaining in control before they committed, because the slow play of the PAC 12 contract seems to have been a factor in which FOX and ESPN passivity was the persuading factor of the reality of the situation. Because, concomitantly with that little drama the Magnificent 7 suddenly arise, and it is far more obvious to me that those 7 had some assurances before they hung their bacon out in public to defy the survival of a conference if radical changes to the finances weren't forthcoming, finances which had to be practical or an immediate way of making a difference.

Now the remarks by Carter alluding to Alberts, and tossing out yet another Super 2 projection, should be taken with the gravity of the concept that made them.

Are we going to continue to deny that the ACC GOR could be rendered moot as a deterrent to such a move. Are we going to continue to pretend that there isn't a hidden honeypot to pay for it, or desire to do it, or a necessity to consolidate beyond athletics?

This is that moment when you are standing at the beach and all the water gets sucked back a mile into the ocean. Are you going to stand there and gawk at the sight and say, "Golly, I've never seen that before, I want to get some shots with my cell phone!" Or, are you going to run like hell for the highest ground you can find because your brain, like that of all the intelligent animals around you, yells danger!

I've stated that the only reason giants move is because they are tall enough to see something that scares them on the horizon. Texas, Oklahoma, UCLA, USC are four such giants. You'd have to be completely obtuse not to grasp the significance of those 4 moving and in doing so abandoning structures they helped to build.

Well now you have some big names inside the industry of College sports and College academia telling you what they see coming, it's just about here, and we are still talking P5?

I believe what I see happening around me and it's coming, likely by 2025, and much of it has little to do with football, and a lot to do with other things happening within our environment of population, its trends, finances, its projections, and the move to the SEC and Big 10 is the higher ground for surviving the tsunami of change rolling our way.

Put up your cell phones and haul ass! Your mental absorption of events has most of you paralyzed. It's real and the signs have been with us for some time now. I think the prevailing attitudes among college presidents and ADs isn't SEC or Big 10, but rather is their room in the lifeboat for me? Two of the three lifeboats will be those massive inflatable totally enclosed buoy like modern survival boats, and the other will be open air and will have oars. But all will be looking for one of the three. And I don't think those jumping on last will care which boat they are in.

I've thought that the Big 10 and SEC would make particular selections in gamesmanship to get this done. That may be in error. Now I think the networks are looking at markets and reach and branding and what they are willing to pay to have, and the conferences will have a little input, but mostly the structure will decide for us. So, what the final alignment looks like might be a good game for the board to play out and I'm sure we will make our best guesses, but I'm not counting on anyone being totally happy with the outcome, especially if it comes more from networks more than from presidents and commissioners.

I thought Kansas was a stretch and Colorado was a fanciful idea to spur discussion, I could have a coyote ugly moment the day things are settled!
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RE: What Do You WANT To Happen In Realignment?
B1G + UND/UNC/UW/UO/KU/UVA/Pitt/Stanford
SEC + FSU/Clem/Miami/GT/NCSt/Duke/VT/TCU
B12 - KU/TCU + Louisville/WF/Syr/BC/4Cs/UC/USF
MWC rebrands as PAC w/ WSU/OSU/Cal, considers adding Tulane/Memphis/SMU/Rice
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I would like to see four 16-team regional conferences separate CFB and MBB from the NCAA. Winning the conference gives you an auto-bid to the CFP.
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I would like to see more regionalization focusing those with fan interest and maximization of revenue.

Obviously, the ACC (assuming it survives long term) or the SEC would be at the top of the list for me, being that ECU is located in the region. Ideally, ECU would find itself in a B12 that also includes some teams closer to us.

If that cannot occur, I would want to be in an Eastern-focused conference with the following programs:

Cinci
WVU
NCSU
Wake Forest
ECU
Pittsburgh
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
UCF
USF
Miami
Tulane
UAB
Memphis

This 16-team group was complied off the top of my head… but it looks pretty good to me. It’s also regionally focused with the exception of a few outliers.

It will never happen, of course.

The best case scenario for the Pirates is that the AAC stays as-is and that by a miracle for some and a tragedy for others, UCF, Cinci, Houston and WVU find themselves in the American. At that point we invite JMU and App State along with Army and Air Force to get to 22 teams. We play a round-robin schedule with 4 permanent rivals each.
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I’d like to see the Magnolia League form out of all the high dollar strategies of the BIG, SEC and P2 wannabes. This Magnolia League would eschew the semi-pro costs of these conferences and emulate the Ivy League. Not sure if the Magnolia can manage to keep playing FBS football, but if it can figure out a way it may be a good alternative for the service academies and some of the schools now part of the AAC and ACC.
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I want something resembling the Big East Football Conference to re-form.
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(05-21-2023 11:03 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Swarbrick a respected man in the College Football World tells you he thinks everyone will be oriented around two spheres, the SEC and the Big 10.

The board meets those remarks with a good deal of denial.

The Nebraska president tells us that more expansion is coming within a couple of years.

The board meets those remarks with some speculation and some denial.

People are weary of change, but that's not going to stop it.

Texas and Oklahoma moved, USC and UCLA moved, people were shocked and then went right back into denial that indeed, sweeping changes were coming.

If the Big 10 and SEC held some top-secret high-level discussions and decided to divide the rest of the PAC 12 and ACC up so that each would have 24 schools, I promise you it wouldn't look like anything we would want. Compromise would have to be involved in that process and nobody would be 100% satisfied with a compromise decision reached by agreement of 32 presidents and 2 commissioners. Even if the compromise was done among just the two commissioners it would not be as fan friendly as most would want.

Let me make this clear, I am not denying that it is quite possible such a compromise has been struck, I'm just stating that it is likely something to which I might say, "Yeah I would have taken those 3, but who in the hell picked the other 5?"

And all of it presupposes that the other schools are ready to move.

And what is really, really strange here is that I firmly believe this is true. Normally I'd say it is one thing for us to believe the SEC and Big 10 just divided out and agreed upon who goes where, but it is wholly another to say "and all the schools will go along."

Maybe California, Oregon, Stanford and Washington just needed to know that there was no way they were remaining in control before they committed, because the slow play of the PAC 12 contract seems to have been a factor in which FOX and ESPN passivity was the persuading factor of the reality of the situation. Because, concomitantly with that little drama the Magnificent 7 suddenly arise, and it is far more obvious to me that those 7 had some assurances before they hung their bacon out in public to defy the survival of a conference if radical changes to the finances weren't forthcoming, finances which had to be practical or an immediate way of making a difference.

Now the remarks by Carter alluding to Alberts, and tossing out yet another Super 2 projection, should be taken with the gravity of the concept that made them.

Are we going to continue to deny that the ACC GOR could be rendered moot as a deterrent to such a move. Are we going to continue to pretend that there isn't a hidden honeypot to pay for it, or desire to do it, or a necessity to consolidate beyond athletics?

This is that moment when you are standing at the beach and all the water gets sucked back a mile into the ocean. Are you going to stand there and gawk at the sight and say, "Golly, I've never seen that before, I want to get some shots with my cell phone!" Or, are you going to run like hell for the highest ground you can find because your brain, like that of all the intelligent animals around you, yells danger!

I've stated that the only reason giants move is because they are tall enough to see something that scares them on the horizon. Texas, Oklahoma, UCLA, USC are four such giants. You'd have to be completely obtuse not to grasp the significance of those 4 moving and in doing so abandoning structures they helped to build.

Well now you have some big names inside the industry of College sports and College academia telling you what they see coming, it's just about here, and we are still talking P5?

I believe what I see happening around me and it's coming, likely by 2025, and much of it has little to do with football, and a lot to do with other things happening within our environment of population, its trends, finances, its projections, and the move to the SEC and Big 10 is the higher ground for surviving the tsunami of change rolling our way.

Put up your cell phones and haul ass! Your mental absorption of events has most of you paralyzed. It's real and the signs have been with us for some time now. I think the prevailing attitudes among college presidents and ADs isn't SEC or Big 10, but rather is their room in the lifeboat for me? Two of the three lifeboats will be those massive inflatable totally enclosed buoy like modern survival boats, and the other will be open air and will have oars. But all will be looking for one of the three. And I don't think those jumping on last will care which boat they are in.

I've thought that the Big 10 and SEC would make particular selections in gamesmanship to get this done. That may be in error. Now I think the networks are looking at markets and reach and branding and what they are willing to pay to have, and the conferences will have a little input, but mostly the structure will decide for us. So, what the final alignment looks like might be a good game for the board to play out and I'm sure we will make our best guesses, but I'm not counting on anyone being totally happy with the outcome, especially if it comes more from networks more than from presidents and commissioners.

I thought Kansas was a stretch and Colorado was a fanciful idea to spur discussion, I could have a coyote ugly moment the day things are settled!

Okay, so what do you want to happen?
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(05-21-2023 09:37 AM)esayem Wrote:  We've all been secretly (or not so secretly) rooting for what we want to happen behind the thin veil of predictions more or less. Here is your chance to tell us what you actually want to happen. Let it loose!

I strongly believe Five Major Conferences (we won't even use the term "Power" because it's been hijacked) in college football and Six Major Conferences (Power still works here) in college basketball is what is BEST for those sports. Conferences becoming Super Conferences of more than 16 is no longer a Conference, but a Convention! I don't see the long term feasibility of this anyway because college athletics are much more dynamic than their professional counterparts. Throw in the fact that we are dealing with government institutions for the most part and evidence in the past has shown legislators will not allow an exclusive club; see BCS and fifth bowl. I also believe the ACC GOR will hold based on evidence that has been coming out lately. This is what I believe.



Now for what I would like to see happen…

Outside of total fantasy options, I would like to see:


The Pac 10 remain the Pac 12 with the addition of San Diego State and SMU

The Big XII become the Big XIV with the addition of Memphis and UNLV

The AAC bring in UMass (all-sports), VCU (Olympic sports), and UConn football-only

The MWC replace the schools they lost or not, I haven't given this much thought. I do think it would be cool to see Montana move up because I’ve always liked their program

The A10 invite William & Mary and reunite the Tribe with the Spiders

What I would want is to go back to around 2010, before Nebraska left for the Big 10, but that's not going to happen.

What I would like now, in somewhat realistic options, is for the M3 to become a more stable M2 and the G5 to become the G4 and quit looking at so many move-ups.

Big 10 goes ahead and brings in Washington and Oregon so USC/UCLA are not alone. SEC gets FSU and Clemson as makes sense. Both stop at 18.

Then the M3 become the M2. Big 12 absorbs the 8 remaining Pac schools. ACC brings in the 3 eastern Big 12 schools, UC, UCF, WVU. Big 12 gets back to 18 with SMU so they have 9 central time zone schools along with 9 mountain and pacific time zone schools. ACC gets to 16 with UConn. Maybe eventually Notre Dame joins them while keeping a separate fb TV contract and USF becomes #18.

MWC adds UTEP, NMSU, UNT and UTSA to get to 16, 15 all sports.
AAC adds Texas St., Army, UMass, Ga. St. and Marshall to get to 16, 14 all sports.
MAC adds WKU, MTSU, Liberty and Missouri St. to get to 16.
SB merges with rest of CUSA, SHSU, La. Tech, Jax St., FIU, KSU to get to 16.
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(05-21-2023 11:38 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(05-21-2023 11:03 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Swarbrick a respected man in the College Football World tells you he thinks everyone will be oriented around two spheres, the SEC and the Big 10.

The board meets those remarks with a good deal of denial.

The Nebraska president tells us that more expansion is coming within a couple of years.

The board meets those remarks with some speculation and some denial.

People are weary of change, but that's not going to stop it.

Texas and Oklahoma moved, USC and UCLA moved, people were shocked and then went right back into denial that indeed, sweeping changes were coming.

If the Big 10 and SEC held some top-secret high-level discussions and decided to divide the rest of the PAC 12 and ACC up so that each would have 24 schools, I promise you it wouldn't look like anything we would want. Compromise would have to be involved in that process and nobody would be 100% satisfied with a compromise decision reached by agreement of 32 presidents and 2 commissioners. Even if the compromise was done among just the two commissioners it would not be as fan friendly as most would want.

Let me make this clear, I am not denying that it is quite possible such a compromise has been struck, I'm just stating that it is likely something to which I might say, "Yeah I would have taken those 3, but who in the hell picked the other 5?"

And all of it presupposes that the other schools are ready to move.

And what is really, really strange here is that I firmly believe this is true. Normally I'd say it is one thing for us to believe the SEC and Big 10 just divided out and agreed upon who goes where, but it is wholly another to say "and all the schools will go along."

Maybe California, Oregon, Stanford and Washington just needed to know that there was no way they were remaining in control before they committed, because the slow play of the PAC 12 contract seems to have been a factor in which FOX and ESPN passivity was the persuading factor of the reality of the situation. Because, concomitantly with that little drama the Magnificent 7 suddenly arise, and it is far more obvious to me that those 7 had some assurances before they hung their bacon out in public to defy the survival of a conference if radical changes to the finances weren't forthcoming, finances which had to be practical or an immediate way of making a difference.

Now the remarks by Carter alluding to Alberts, and tossing out yet another Super 2 projection, should be taken with the gravity of the concept that made them.

Are we going to continue to deny that the ACC GOR could be rendered moot as a deterrent to such a move. Are we going to continue to pretend that there isn't a hidden honeypot to pay for it, or desire to do it, or a necessity to consolidate beyond athletics?

This is that moment when you are standing at the beach and all the water gets sucked back a mile into the ocean. Are you going to stand there and gawk at the sight and say, "Golly, I've never seen that before, I want to get some shots with my cell phone!" Or, are you going to run like hell for the highest ground you can find because your brain, like that of all the intelligent animals around you, yells danger!

I've stated that the only reason giants move is because they are tall enough to see something that scares them on the horizon. Texas, Oklahoma, UCLA, USC are four such giants. You'd have to be completely obtuse not to grasp the significance of those 4 moving and in doing so abandoning structures they helped to build.

Well now you have some big names inside the industry of College sports and College academia telling you what they see coming, it's just about here, and we are still talking P5?

I believe what I see happening around me and it's coming, likely by 2025, and much of it has little to do with football, and a lot to do with other things happening within our environment of population, its trends, finances, its projections, and the move to the SEC and Big 10 is the higher ground for surviving the tsunami of change rolling our way.

Put up your cell phones and haul ass! Your mental absorption of events has most of you paralyzed. It's real and the signs have been with us for some time now. I think the prevailing attitudes among college presidents and ADs isn't SEC or Big 10, but rather is their room in the lifeboat for me? Two of the three lifeboats will be those massive inflatable totally enclosed buoy like modern survival boats, and the other will be open air and will have oars. But all will be looking for one of the three. And I don't think those jumping on last will care which boat they are in.

I've thought that the Big 10 and SEC would make particular selections in gamesmanship to get this done. That may be in error. Now I think the networks are looking at markets and reach and branding and what they are willing to pay to have, and the conferences will have a little input, but mostly the structure will decide for us. So, what the final alignment looks like might be a good game for the board to play out and I'm sure we will make our best guesses, but I'm not counting on anyone being totally happy with the outcome, especially if it comes more from networks more than from presidents and commissioners.

I thought Kansas was a stretch and Colorado was a fanciful idea to spur discussion, I could have a coyote ugly moment the day things are settled!

Okay, so what do you want to happen?

If the Big 10 does indeed take Oregon, Washington, California and Stanford and they insist on 4 to the East. I would like for them to have Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Duke, and Miami. I would like to see Virginia Tech, Virginia, North Carolina North Carolina State, Clemson and Florida State in the SEC and for the SEC to add Kansas, and I suppose Colorado to the West. I don't want the SEC to extend into Utah or Arizona. Nothing against those schools, but Colorado is a bridge too far. I like Colorado only in as much as they complete an interesting region with Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas A&M. To get to Arizona you have to jump New Mexico and you might as well look at Texas Tech to get there. If you take Texas Tech you are back into a debate about Oklahoma State, and if you do that you can forget about Kansas because Kansas State becomes a debate.

The SEC is built on rivalries. Missouri needs Kansas. Oklahoma has Texas. Colorado like Missouri is a state of 6 million dominated by one school and is in a different time zone for marketing purposes. It's also a nice vacation state and with Kansas it would be contiguous.

If you take Virginia and Virginia Tech, North Carolina and N.C. State those additions have their in state rival and a chief out of state rival. Add Clemson and Florida State and South Carolina and Florida have their rivals in house.

If you wind up with two leagues of 24 having rivals where you play them annually will be doubly important. Basketball has enough games in a season to pull off having a rival outside of the conference. Football does not.
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