Tom Layberger of Forbes reports.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomlayberge...1d6dc2293a

And which FCS program(s) will be next to move up to FBS? Perhaps one or more of Delaware, Eastern Kentucky, Missouri State and Tarleton State.

There have been some terrific adds. UTSA, Appalachian St, and Coastal Carolina come to mind with recent success. I don't think any mentioned in the article have been terrible except Massachusetts. The rest seem to fit decently.

(05-18-2023 11:20 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  There have been some terrific adds. UTSA, Appalachian St, and Coastal Carolina come to mind with recent success. I don't think any mentioned in the article have been terrible except Massachusetts. The rest seem to fit decently.

UTSA didn't do so hot coming into FBS. Now Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, Coastal Carolina, and JMU all did pretty well right out of the gate.

Hail Southern!

Some would say they've already passed our MAC, OP :(

But we'll see if these recent adds can sustain it. Some already appear to be regressing.

(05-19-2023 09:02 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Some would say they've already passed our MAC, OP :(

But we'll see if these recent adds can sustain it. Some already appear to be regressing.

Georgia Southern has had some dips. ULM has really regressed. Only Marshall and UCF have stayed pretty successful among schools moving up since the 90s. We'll see whether JMU, CCU and App St. stay successful or find their FCS success a distant memory.

(05-19-2023 10:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 09:02 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Some would say they've already passed our MAC, OP :(

But we'll see if these recent adds can sustain it. Some already appear to be regressing.

Georgia Southern has had some dips. ULM has really regressed. Only Marshall and UCF have stayed pretty successful among schools moving up since the 90s. We'll see whether JMU, CCU and App St. stay successful or find their FCS success a distant memory.

Boise State's first year was 1996 which was a terrible year, then they got better next season and the next, but in 1999 was their first break out season, and ever since then, they still have the best winning record since 2000 out of all the G5. That is why a lot of Big 12 leadership are still praising highly of them. I am not hearing much about other schools like UConn, UNLV, etc.

(05-19-2023 10:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 09:02 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Some would say they've already passed our MAC, OP :(

But we'll see if these recent adds can sustain it. Some already appear to be regressing.

Georgia Southern has had some dips. ULM has really regressed. Only Marshall and UCF have stayed pretty successful among schools moving up since the 90s. We'll see whether JMU, CCU and App St. stay successful or find their FCS success a distant memory.

UCF has got to be the biggest success story for a school coming from lower divisions to the P5. The Knights were D3 in the late 70s, D2 in the 80s, I-AA in the 90s, and into FBS as an Indy in the late 90s. Then, the MAC, to CUSA, to the AAC, and now to the Big 12. An interesting and impressive 45 years of transitions for them.

UMass should have joined FBS back in the 60's. It's been a horrendous experience except for 2017. I can't see the point of FBS for UMass (3 wins in the last 4 seasons).

If I were the AD of Umass, I would join the MAC for ALL sports. The A10 is a waste of time. It's had its day.

(05-19-2023 10:43 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 10:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 09:02 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Some would say they've already passed our MAC, OP :(

But we'll see if these recent adds can sustain it. Some already appear to be regressing.

Georgia Southern has had some dips. ULM has really regressed. Only Marshall and UCF have stayed pretty successful among schools moving up since the 90s. We'll see whether JMU, CCU and App St. stay successful or find their FCS success a distant memory.

Boise State's first year was 1996 which was a terrible year, then they got better next season and the next, but in 1999 was their first break out season, and ever since then, they still have the best winning record since 2000 out of all the G5. That is why a lot of Big 12 leadership are still praising highly of them. I am not hearing much about other schools like UConn, UNLV, etc.

Boise State will stay good as long as they avoid playing real teams on the road.

(05-19-2023 12:23 PM)ZooMass84 Wrote:  If I were the AD of Umass, I would join the MAC for ALL sports. The A10 is a waste of time. It's had its day.

Might as well if A-10 has only one bid.

(05-19-2023 12:21 PM)ZooMass84 Wrote:  UMass should have joined FBS back in the 60's. It's been a horrendous experience except for 2017. I can't see the point of FBS for UMass (3 wins in the last 4 seasons).

Like everyone except Idaho, they refuse to admit defeat.

(05-19-2023 12:06 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 10:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 09:02 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Some would say they've already passed our MAC, OP :(

But we'll see if these recent adds can sustain it. Some already appear to be regressing.

Georgia Southern has had some dips. ULM has really regressed. Only Marshall and UCF have stayed pretty successful among schools moving up since the 90s. We'll see whether JMU, CCU and App St. stay successful or find their FCS success a distant memory.

UCF has got to be the biggest success story for a school coming from lower divisions to the P5. The Knights were D3 in the late 70s, D2 in the 80s, I-AA in the 90s, and into FBS as an Indy in the late 90s. Then, the MAC, to CUSA, to the AAC, and now to the Big 12. An interesting and impressive 45 years of transitions for them.

We will see. I think they've bit off more than they can chew now but then again Oklahoma and Texas are gone. Shows why putting Athletics way over Academics is the smart move for some schools.

(05-19-2023 06:55 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 11:20 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  There have been some terrific adds. UTSA, Appalachian St, and Coastal Carolina come to mind with recent success. I don't think any mentioned in the article have been terrible except Massachusetts. The rest seem to fit decently.

UTSA didn't do so hot coming into FBS. Now Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, Coastal Carolina, and JMU all did pretty well right out of the gate.

UTSA went 8-4 as an FBS transitional member, JMU went 8-3.

(05-19-2023 12:57 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 06:55 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 11:20 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  There have been some terrific adds. UTSA, Appalachian St, and Coastal Carolina come to mind with recent success. I don't think any mentioned in the article have been terrible except Massachusetts. The rest seem to fit decently.

UTSA didn't do so hot coming into FBS. Now Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, Coastal Carolina, and JMU all did pretty well right out of the gate.

UTSA went 8-4 as an FBS transitional member, JMU went 8-3.

6 of those wins came against 2 D2 schools, 2 FCS, and 2 transitioning schools. The other 2 were Idaho and NMSU. We might have been y'alls best win that year lol

(05-18-2023 07:08 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  And which FCS program(s) will be next to move up to FBS? Perhaps one or more of Delaware, Eastern Kentucky, Missouri State and Tarleton State.

You're going to draw ire by not mentioning North Dakota State. They want 'bama.

(05-19-2023 12:26 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:06 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 10:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 09:02 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Some would say they've already passed our MAC, OP :(

But we'll see if these recent adds can sustain it. Some already appear to be regressing.

Georgia Southern has had some dips. ULM has really regressed. Only Marshall and UCF have stayed pretty successful among schools moving up since the 90s. We'll see whether JMU, CCU and App St. stay successful or find their FCS success a distant memory.

UCF has got to be the biggest success story for a school coming from lower divisions to the P5. The Knights were D3 in the late 70s, D2 in the 80s, I-AA in the 90s, and into FBS as an Indy in the late 90s. Then, the MAC, to CUSA, to the AAC, and now to the Big 12. An interesting and impressive 45 years of transitions for them.

We will see. I think they've bit off more than they can chew now but then again Oklahoma and Texas are gone. Shows why putting Athletics way over Academics is the smart move for some schools.

Just getting to the P5 after being D3 45 years back is success in my eyes. And, I'm no fan of UCF. LOL.

(05-19-2023 01:11 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:26 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:06 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 10:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 09:02 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Some would say they've already passed our MAC, OP :(

But we'll see if these recent adds can sustain it. Some already appear to be regressing.

Georgia Southern has had some dips. ULM has really regressed. Only Marshall and UCF have stayed pretty successful among schools moving up since the 90s. We'll see whether JMU, CCU and App St. stay successful or find their FCS success a distant memory.

UCF has got to be the biggest success story for a school coming from lower divisions to the P5. The Knights were D3 in the late 70s, D2 in the 80s, I-AA in the 90s, and into FBS as an Indy in the late 90s. Then, the MAC, to CUSA, to the AAC, and now to the Big 12. An interesting and impressive 45 years of transitions for them.

We will see. I think they've bit off more than they can chew now but then again Oklahoma and Texas are gone. Shows why putting Athletics way over Academics is the smart move for some schools.

Just getting to the P5 after being D3 45 years back is success in my eyes. And, I'm no fan of UCF. LOL.

Boise State went from NJCAA champs to NAIA to FCS champs. They were leaving bodybags along the way to the top. Now, they need the final nail to complete it.