(05-18-2023 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The ACC has a revenue gap problem and they also seem to to have some obstacles to just disbanding.

Could they simply get together and conspire to vote out a pair of members?

Let’s say they dump BC and Cuse (you could make an argument to boot WF too).

Schools don’t get to vote on their own expulsion so that could make it easier to reach the required vote threshold.

A leaner ACC emerges with fewer mouths to feed and more frequent meetings with ND.

Cuse?

Are you crazy?

Cuse brings in their fair share (FB tv draw is in the middle despite bad FB) and basketball should bring in more future revenue under the new coach. The hoops team leads the nation in attendance many years and is a huge brand name.

(05-20-2023 03:48 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The ACC has a revenue gap problem and they also seem to to have some obstacles to just disbanding.

Could they simply get together and conspire to vote out a pair of members?

Let’s say they dump BC and Cuse (you could make an argument to boot WF too).

Schools don’t get to vote on their own expulsion so that could make it easier to reach the required vote threshold.

A leaner ACC emerges with fewer mouths to feed and more frequent meetings with ND.

Cuse?

Are you crazy?

Cuse brings in their fair share (FB tv draw is in the middle despite bad FB) and basketball should bring in more future revenue under the new coach. The hoops team leads the nation in attendance many years and is a huge brand name.

Have you been following any of the news about ACC internal politics lately?

Syracuse is on the perimeter and the M7 believe they have more value together than with programs like Syracuse.

(05-20-2023 03:36 PM)MKPitt Wrote:  As a Pitt fan, I honestly don’t really care anymore at this point now that there is going to be a 12 team playoff. We’re not getting in the Big Ten because of PSU and we’re not getting in the SEC so let’s just rip the bandaid off and end the league. I’d rather just play people that also want to play us. I’ve seen others say this but I’d be perfectly happy going back to a league with BC, Syracuse, West Virginia, Louisville and Cincinnati and then throw in some of the other leftovers whether it be GT, WF, NC State, doesn’t matter to me. Play teams we actually care about and I’m sure many years a team from this league will get in the playoffs and it will be easier to get there. I know that’s not the admin’s perspective who mostly care about money but as a fan that’s how I feel.

Would you be OK with the following 10 team league, listed alphabetically?

Boston College
Cincinnati
Duke
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Pitt
Syracuse
UCF
Wake Forest
West Virginia

If this could be arranged, with an 8 year contact at the current ACC rate, and with an autobid to the CFP, how many of these schools do you think would accept the deal?

And if the so-called "Magnificent 7" plus Kansas were then offered an invite to the SEC at 70% of the SEC's current rate, would they accept?

(05-20-2023 04:20 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-20-2023 03:48 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The ACC has a revenue gap problem and they also seem to to have some obstacles to just disbanding.

Could they simply get together and conspire to vote out a pair of members?

Let’s say they dump BC and Cuse (you could make an argument to boot WF too).

Schools don’t get to vote on their own expulsion so that could make it easier to reach the required vote threshold.

A leaner ACC emerges with fewer mouths to feed and more frequent meetings with ND.

Cuse?

Are you crazy?

Cuse brings in their fair share (FB tv draw is in the middle despite bad FB) and basketball should bring in more future revenue under the new coach. The hoops team leads the nation in attendance many years and is a huge brand name.

Have you been following any of the news about ACC internal politics lately?

Syracuse is on the perimeter and the M7 believe they have more value together than with programs like Syracuse.

So that makes them #13 or #14?

Cuse's biggest issue is geography not brand value

(05-20-2023 06:09 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(05-20-2023 03:36 PM)MKPitt Wrote:  As a Pitt fan, I honestly don’t really care anymore at this point now that there is going to be a 12 team playoff. We’re not getting in the Big Ten because of PSU and we’re not getting in the SEC so let’s just rip the bandaid off and end the league. I’d rather just play people that also want to play us. I’ve seen others say this but I’d be perfectly happy going back to a league with BC, Syracuse, West Virginia, Louisville and Cincinnati and then throw in some of the other leftovers whether it be GT, WF, NC State, doesn’t matter to me. Play teams we actually care about and I’m sure many years a team from this league will get in the playoffs and it will be easier to get there. I know that’s not the admin’s perspective who mostly care about money but as a fan that’s how I feel.

Would you be OK with the following 10 team league, listed alphabetically?

Boston College
Cincinnati
Duke
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Pitt
Syracuse
UCF
Wake Forest
West Virginia

If this could be arranged, with an 8 year contact at the current ACC rate, and with an autobid to the CFP, how many of these schools do you think would accept the deal?

And if the so-called "Magnificent 7" plus Kansas were then offered an invite to the SEC at 70% of the SEC's current rate, would they accept?

I would love that...throw in UConn and USF too.

(05-20-2023 04:20 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(05-20-2023 03:48 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 04:50 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The ACC has a revenue gap problem and they also seem to to have some obstacles to just disbanding.

Could they simply get together and conspire to vote out a pair of members?

Let’s say they dump BC and Cuse (you could make an argument to boot WF too).

Schools don’t get to vote on their own expulsion so that could make it easier to reach the required vote threshold.

A leaner ACC emerges with fewer mouths to feed and more frequent meetings with ND.

Cuse?

Are you crazy?

Cuse brings in their fair share (FB tv draw is in the middle despite bad FB) and basketball should bring in more future revenue under the new coach. The hoops team leads the nation in attendance many years and is a huge brand name.

Have you been following any of the news about ACC internal politics lately?

Syracuse is on the perimeter and the M7 believe they have more value together than with programs like Syracuse.

M7 won't get a tv deal together better than the current ACC deal. The purpose of the M7 is they think if the ACC can be dissolved the GOR goes away.....that they will have landing spots in the BIG and SEC.