(05-18-2023 09:21 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:52 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:50 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  It is a highly recommended test for women over 35 and it tests for far more serious conditions than only downs syndrome.

Not everyone blindly follows the medical communities "recommendations".

Ok? Well, not everyone is a conspiracy theorist, so for those of us who DO value the opinion of their medical provider, this is still a valid concern.

Medical Provider 1: Gender-affirming care is beneficial.
Medical Provider 2: Mutilation of children's sex organs is barbaric.


Whose opinion do you value?

(05-18-2023 09:21 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:52 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:50 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  It is a highly recommended test for women over 35 and it tests for far more serious conditions than only downs syndrome.

Not everyone blindly follows the medical communities "recommendations".

Ok? Well, not everyone is a conspiracy theorist, so for those of us who DO value the opinion of their medical provider, this is still a valid concern.

Typical lib hack. Anything you disagree with is a "conspiracy theory". Maybe someday you'll have an original thought.

Most doctors these days are nothing but lackeys for Big Pharma, pushing pills to make big bucks. Legalized pushers. You do you friend.

(05-18-2023 09:37 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:21 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:52 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:50 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  It is a highly recommended test for women over 35 and it tests for far more serious conditions than only downs syndrome.

Not everyone blindly follows the medical communities "recommendations".

Ok? Well, not everyone is a conspiracy theorist, so for those of us who DO value the opinion of their medical provider, this is still a valid concern.

Typical lib hack. Anything you disagree with is a "conspiracy theory". Maybe someday you'll have an original thought.

Most doctors these days are nothing but lackeys for Big Pharma, pushing pills to make big bucks. Legalized pushers. You do you friend.

You don't have a single clue what you are talking about. Guess what - I'm not even a little bit of a "lib hack" - don't know that I've EVER voted for a democrat in a major election....someone who listens to professionals isn't devoid of "original thought" whatever that means. I guess next time I need surgery I'll just ask my neighbor to do it because the surgeons are just "pushers"

You are one dense dude.

(05-18-2023 09:33 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:21 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:52 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:50 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  It is a highly recommended test for women over 35 and it tests for far more serious conditions than only downs syndrome.

Not everyone blindly follows the medical communities "recommendations".

Ok? Well, not everyone is a conspiracy theorist, so for those of us who DO value the opinion of their medical provider, this is still a valid concern.

Medical Provider 1: Gender-affirming care is beneficial.
Medical Provider 2: Mutilation of children's sex organs is barbaric.


Whose opinion do you value?

What does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

(05-18-2023 09:50 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  You don't have a single clue what you are talking about. Guess what - I'm not even a little bit of a "lib hack" - don't know that I've EVER voted for a democrat in a major election....someone who listens to professionals isn't devoid of "original thought" whatever that means. I guess next time I need surgery I'll just ask my neighbor to do it because the surgeons are just "pushers"

You are one dense dude.

Dense because I disagree with you. Lib talk 101.

Btw, "lib" and "democrat" are not synonyms.

(05-18-2023 09:54 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:50 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  You don't have a single clue what you are talking about. Guess what - I'm not even a little bit of a "lib hack" - don't know that I've EVER voted for a democrat in a major election....someone who listens to professionals isn't devoid of "original thought" whatever that means. I guess next time I need surgery I'll just ask my neighbor to do it because the surgeons are just "pushers"

You are one dense dude.

Dense because I disagree with you. Lib talk 101.

Btw, "lib" and "democrat" are not synonyms.

Ok man, sure. Whatever you say.

(05-18-2023 09:51 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:33 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:21 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:52 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:50 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  It is a highly recommended test for women over 35 and it tests for far more serious conditions than only downs syndrome.

Not everyone blindly follows the medical communities "recommendations".

Ok? Well, not everyone is a conspiracy theorist, so for those of us who DO value the opinion of their medical provider, this is still a valid concern.

Medical Provider 1: Gender-affirming care is beneficial.
Medical Provider 2: Mutilation of children's sex organs is barbaric.


Whose opinion do you value?

What does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

The bolded text above.

(05-18-2023 10:04 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:51 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:33 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:21 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:52 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Not everyone blindly follows the medical communities "recommendations".

Ok? Well, not everyone is a conspiracy theorist, so for those of us who DO value the opinion of their medical provider, this is still a valid concern.

Medical Provider 1: Gender-affirming care is beneficial.
Medical Provider 2: Mutilation of children's sex organs is barbaric.


Whose opinion do you value?

What does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

The bolded text above.

The conversation is about NC abortion limit bill and the week threshold. Not Gender affirming care. Two completely separate topics. Not to mention OBGYNs don't provide gender affirming care.

So you're in charge of all the discussions now?

(05-18-2023 10:13 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  So you're in charge of all the discussions now?

(05-18-2023 10:13 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  So you're in charge of all the discussions now?

Kind of how a forum works. You have a topic, and then people post about the topic. If you want to talk about a different topic, you start a new thread. Pretty simple stuff. I bet you can even understand it at a basic level.

(05-18-2023 10:58 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 10:13 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  So you're in charge of all the discussions now?

Kind of how a forum works. You have a topic, and then people post about the topic. If you want to talk about a different topic, you start a new thread. Pretty simple stuff. I bet you can even understand it at a basic level.

So you ARE in charge. Has the purchase been finalized yet? I never thought GTS would sell this place.

(05-04-2023 09:14 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  OOOHHH... Democrats gonna have to do something someone else's way.

That's going to be a tough one for them to swallow.

They are spitters... they don't swallow.

(05-18-2023 08:50 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-17-2023 09:32 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(05-17-2023 09:21 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(05-04-2023 10:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-04-2023 11:49 AM)mlb Wrote:  Good compromise, IMO. Common sense.

I see no reason to make exceptions to the 12 week rule.
Now maybe there are some tests on anomalies that take a little longer.
But what anomalies? Who makes that call on what is "life altering?"

Most women are just getting NIPT results at 12 weeks. I think it should move to somewhere between 13 and 15, but the rest of the bill seems fair.

NIPT isn't required by law and is a personal choice. A lot of women don't even do it. These conditions are extremely rare and either way, do you have a right to kill a baby with down syndrome?

It is a highly recommended test for women over 35 and it tests for far more serious conditions than only downs syndrome.

Yes, I'm aware that it tests other things as well... But that doesn't mean you allow more babies to be killed electively because of an NIPT test. 3 months is plenty of time to decide and it is very lenient for the mother.