As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...

- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.

I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.

In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.

In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.

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Big East is better than the AAC

SEC and Big 10 gap growing. 100 million and 94 million by 2029.

(05-12-2023 05:47 PM)ExpertAd991 Wrote:  Big East is better than the AAC

Yes and no

(05-12-2023 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote:  As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...

- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.

I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.

In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.

In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.

I’m not sure the negative posts in this instance are that stupid. With the set up at present, when we find the hidden gem of a recruit, they are most likely to transfer out for more NIL cash the very next season. I don’t see a great possibility of that changing myself. I’m not sure our administration does either with the way we’ve set up our non conference schedule for the foreseeable future.

It’ll still be fun to be at the games, cheer on the good guys, and have a fun day at Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium. It’s just very unlikely that we are going to be competing at the highest level. If we somehow do make a playoff, we would most assuredly get murdered in the first game. A little bit more tv money is not going to change that. We should be able to compete at the highest level in basketball though.

(05-13-2023 12:18 AM)MGR Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote:  As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...

- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.

I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.

In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.

In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.

I’m not sure the negative posts in this instance are that stupid. With the set up at present, when we find the hidden gem of a recruit, they are most likely to transfer out for more NIL cash the very next season. I don’t see a great possibility of that changing myself. I’m not sure our administration does either with the way we’ve set up our non conference schedule for the foreseeable future.

It’ll still be fun to be at the games, cheer on the good guys, and have a fun day at Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium. It’s just very unlikely that we are going to be competing at the highest level. If we somehow do make a playoff, we would most assuredly get murdered in the first game. A little bit more tv money is not going to change that. We should be able to compete at the highest level in basketball though.

I don't think we would most assuredly get murdered in the first game of a playoff. We did pretty well against Penn State in the Cotton Bowl without having our coaches and several of our top players. When presented with that type situation we can step up our game and compete. Our players would rise to the top of
their game.

We basically have to operate with 10-15% of the money the SEC and B10 teams will be getting.

I also didn't realize that the leavers got 12 years to pay the exit fees.

At 1.5 per year X 3 that's 4.5M per year split 8 ways (legacy schools)?

Do the CUSA 6 ever get any of the exit fees - as in after 3 years do they get a piece of that pie? I had thought the exit fees were to be paid over a much shorter time frame.

When you have 13 other schools to compete with I'm not sure how realistic it is to just say, 'all we have to do is win the league every 2-3 years'. Exactly what about Silverfield's performance makes us think he can win even 1 championship? This time was the time for the school to go out and bring in a coach using the Fuente / Norvell template or even a guy like Tom Herman - who has done very well at this level - but nah - they gonna roll the dice with Silverfield and when he goes 8-4 or 9-3 against mostly slaw they will give him an extension.

In the G5, 8-4 or 9-3 gets you exactly the same thing as 6-6. Nothing.

(05-13-2023 12:18 AM)MGR Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote:  As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...

- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.

I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.

In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.

In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.

I’m not sure the negative posts in this instance are that stupid. With the set up at present, when we find the hidden gem of a recruit, they are most likely to transfer out for more NIL cash the very next season. I don’t see a great possibility of that changing myself. I’m not sure our administration does either with the way we’ve set up our non conference schedule for the foreseeable future.

It’ll still be fun to be at the games, cheer on the good guys, and have a fun day at Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium. It’s just very unlikely that we are going to be competing at the highest level. If we somehow do make a playoff, we would most assuredly get murdered in the first game. A little bit more tv money is not going to change that. We should be able to compete at the highest level in basketball though.

Only two factors stay my hand about axing football: 1. the possibility of moving up and 2. obtaining the G5 playoff spot. We have made progress in enhancing our P5 resume (eg, LB renovations and Carnegie Tier 1) and the weakened G5 presents opportunities (“the tallest midget”) to grab the P5 playoff slot. I will continue to invest in FB until realistic hope is lost.

Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.

(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote:  Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.

Acceptance is the first step...just let the pipe dream go. College football is f'd up and we're a casualty.

(05-13-2023 12:18 AM)MGR Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote:  As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...

- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.

I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.

In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.

In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.

I’m not sure the negative posts in this instance are that stupid. With the set up at present, when we find the hidden gem of a recruit, they are most likely to transfer out for more NIL cash the very next season. I don’t see a great possibility of that changing myself. I’m not sure our administration does either with the way we’ve set up our non conference schedule for the foreseeable future.

It’ll still be fun to be at the games, cheer on the good guys, and have a fun day at Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium. It’s just very unlikely that we are going to be competing at the highest level. If we somehow do make a playoff, we would most assuredly get murdered in the first game. A little bit more tv money is not going to change that. We should be able to compete at the highest level in basketball though.

The goal is different now. The goal is to be the best of the best outside of the P5. We are going to be in the best position of anyone else out there. We have the most resources, the best brand, in a great recruiting area, with a beautiful renovated stadium, with the most tv money.

We should either be a playoff team every 2-3 years; which will further build the brand, help with recruiting, attendance, money, etc, or we will be in position the next round of movement.

(05-13-2023 07:36 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  We basically have to operate with 10-15% of the money the SEC and B10 teams will be getting.

I also didn't realize that the leavers got 12 years to pay the exit fees.

At 1.5 per year X 3 that's 4.5M per year split 8 ways (legacy schools)?

Do the CUSA 6 ever get any of the exit fees - as in after 3 years do they get a piece of that pie? I had thought the exit fees were to be paid over a much shorter time frame.

When you have 13 other schools to compete with I'm not sure how realistic it is to just say, 'all we have to do is win the league every 2-3 years'. Exactly what about Silverfield's performance makes us think he can win even 1 championship? This time was the time for the school to go out and bring in a coach using the Fuente / Norvell template or even a guy like Tom Herman - who has done very well at this level - but nah - they gonna roll the dice with Silverfield and when he goes 8-4 or 9-3 against mostly slaw they will give him an extension.

In the G5, 8-4 or 9-3 gets you exactly the same thing as 6-6. Nothing.

Why would the new schools get any of the exit fees? Why would you think he will be around if he doesn't improve? The Fuente template was a search and then going against the recommendation and not hiring McElwain. The Norvell template was Fuente and the staff visiting Arizona for a class on how he runs his offense, and then hiring him. after a mostly for show search, and giving Odom an offer he was for sure going to refuse.

So there is literally no template except in your imagination. Comparing us to $EC teams? Why would anyone do that? What does it have to do with anything? We for sure will have much more resources than everyone else not P5. THAT is the reality.

Negative about literally everything for no reason.

(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote:  Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.

What McMurphy said was IF (there's that huge little 2 letter word again) if either Colorado or Utah were to move to the Big XII then the B1G would invite Washington and Oregon at a reduced payout. OR (another huge little 2letter word) if any of the ACC were to get out of their GOR deal to leave the ACC then the B1G would look at inviting both Washington and Oregon at reduced payout.

He also stated that he didn't expect any PAC teams to go to Big XII and that the B1G doesn't want to be seen as killing off the PAC.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOn15wmJR...e=youtu.be

(05-13-2023 11:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 07:36 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  We basically have to operate with 10-15% of the money the SEC and B10 teams will be getting.

I also didn't realize that the leavers got 12 years to pay the exit fees.

At 1.5 per year X 3 that's 4.5M per year split 8 ways (legacy schools)?

Do the CUSA 6 ever get any of the exit fees - as in after 3 years do they get a piece of that pie? I had thought the exit fees were to be paid over a much shorter time frame.

When you have 13 other schools to compete with I'm not sure how realistic it is to just say, 'all we have to do is win the league every 2-3 years'. Exactly what about Silverfield's performance makes us think he can win even 1 championship? This time was the time for the school to go out and bring in a coach using the Fuente / Norvell template or even a guy like Tom Herman - who has done very well at this level - but nah - they gonna roll the dice with Silverfield and when he goes 8-4 or 9-3 against mostly slaw they will give him an extension.

In the G5, 8-4 or 9-3 gets you exactly the same thing as 6-6. Nothing.

Why would the new schools get any of the exit fees? Why would you think he will be around if he doesn't improve? The Fuente template was a search and then going against the recommendation and not hiring McElwain. The Norvell template was Fuente and the staff visiting Arizona for a class on how he runs his offense, and then hiring him. after a mostly for show search, and giving Odom an offer he was for sure going to refuse.

So there is literally no template except in your imagination. Comparing us to $EC teams? Why would anyone do that? What does it have to do with anything? We for sure will have much more resources than everyone else not P5. THAT is the reality.

Negative about literally everything for no reason.

I'm still super pissed that Houston got politicked into the B12 over Memphis. Should never have happened. So yeah, that colors my perception of everything Memphis sports related.

Regarding Silverfield. I think he should already be gone. These next 2 years are super important. With the extremely favorable schedule he has been blessed with for 2023 he will 'improve' to 8 or 9 wins when in fact it will likely be the watered down league and getting to play certain teams at home this year. Then he'll get an extension. Then we get passed......again.

That is how I see it. If I'm wrong then the team will be much better and I'll be happy about it.

If I'm right I won't be happy about it but will be even more pissed at the leadership.

(05-13-2023 07:08 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 12:18 AM)MGR Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote:  As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...

- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.

I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.

In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.

In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.

I’m not sure the negative posts in this instance are that stupid. With the set up at present, when we find the hidden gem of a recruit, they are most likely to transfer out for more NIL cash the very next season. I don’t see a great possibility of that changing myself. I’m not sure our administration does either with the way we’ve set up our non conference schedule for the foreseeable future.

It’ll still be fun to be at the games, cheer on the good guys, and have a fun day at Simmons Bank Liberty Stadium. It’s just very unlikely that we are going to be competing at the highest level. If we somehow do make a playoff, we would most assuredly get murdered in the first game. A little bit more tv money is not going to change that. We should be able to compete at the highest level in basketball though.

I don't think we would most assuredly get murdered in the first game of a playoff. We did pretty well against Penn State in the Cotton Bowl without having our coaches and several of our top players. When presented with that type situation we can step up our game and compete. Our players would rise to the top of
their game.

The fact is with NIL, we are not going to be able to keep good players like we had on that team. They will be off making more cash than we can come up with. All of the talk about building our brand and all is not in touch with reality. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see it.

(05-13-2023 07:21 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 11:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 07:36 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  We basically have to operate with 10-15% of the money the SEC and B10 teams will be getting.

I also didn't realize that the leavers got 12 years to pay the exit fees.

At 1.5 per year X 3 that's 4.5M per year split 8 ways (legacy schools)?

Do the CUSA 6 ever get any of the exit fees - as in after 3 years do they get a piece of that pie? I had thought the exit fees were to be paid over a much shorter time frame.

When you have 13 other schools to compete with I'm not sure how realistic it is to just say, 'all we have to do is win the league every 2-3 years'. Exactly what about Silverfield's performance makes us think he can win even 1 championship? This time was the time for the school to go out and bring in a coach using the Fuente / Norvell template or even a guy like Tom Herman - who has done very well at this level - but nah - they gonna roll the dice with Silverfield and when he goes 8-4 or 9-3 against mostly slaw they will give him an extension.

In the G5, 8-4 or 9-3 gets you exactly the same thing as 6-6. Nothing.

Why would the new schools get any of the exit fees? Why would you think he will be around if he doesn't improve? The Fuente template was a search and then going against the recommendation and not hiring McElwain. The Norvell template was Fuente and the staff visiting Arizona for a class on how he runs his offense, and then hiring him. after a mostly for show search, and giving Odom an offer he was for sure going to refuse.

So there is literally no template except in your imagination. Comparing us to $EC teams? Why would anyone do that? What does it have to do with anything? We for sure will have much more resources than everyone else not P5. THAT is the reality.

Negative about literally everything for no reason.

I'm still super pissed that Houston got politicked into the B12 over Memphis. Should never have happened. So yeah, that colors my perception of everything Memphis sports related.

Regarding Silverfield. I think he should already be gone. These next 2 years are super important. With the extremely favorable schedule he has been blessed with for 2023 he will 'improve' to 8 or 9 wins when in fact it will likely be the watered down league and getting to play certain teams at home this year. Then he'll get an extension. Then we get passed......again.

That is how I see it. If I'm wrong then the team will be much better and I'll be happy about it.

If I'm right I won't be happy about it but will be even more pissed at the leadership.

I 100% agree with you on all

As for you being called negative---with that guy everybody is negative/stupid/dumb/idiot/liar

Remember nobody wants Houston in the big 12--they have no chance

I am recalling two famous quotes--with apologies to Reagan and Berra

"there he goes again"---"deja vu all over again"

Same message---new different verbiage

We went from #2 on everybodys list-- to now----(Impossible to leave out when the next dominoes fall).

Four were chosen---so surely we had to have been #5 on everybodys list--right ?---maybe we get in next time

But 3 straight undefeated seasons would not have gotten us in last time---wins/losses had zero to do with who got chosen

I wonder how Boise/Coastal/USF/SMU/ECU/Tulane/FAU/Fresno/San Diego St etc etc etc etc feel about us being -----impossible to leave out next time-------not to mention that all of the above schools are inferior to our --(resources/brand/recruiting area/stadium).

If we dont get in the Big 12 next time they expand---then people are saying then we will get picked by the ACC when some leave. Then it becomes basically a gutted conference---but better than the crap conference we are in now

But hey our fan base just learned that our (goal --is different now)------the fanbase has now learned that the goal of getting into a power conference is no longer-----(we now have a different goal)-------so it really doesn't matter if we are impossible to leave out or not--as long as we are the top school outside the power 5--thats what matters

Maybe the rumor of two power conferences would be better for us and college football itself anyway

That way the schools left out can maybe get back to sanity ---and ditch the NIL--and transfer portal--the compensation would again be a free education--and if the little darlings don't like it they don't have to play----then the remaining schools start their own national championship--and get back to the college football we all grew up with--------and with a national playoff instead of dull bowls

I think most everybody on here is a Memphis fan and would like to see the school, it's athletic teams, the city - all of it - do really well.

Politically, the ongoing divisive, race baiting, victim culture approach has hamstrung Shelby County since the the mid 70's. Don't think it's not a problem on the national level because it is - I really didn't realize just how bad it was until I moved away.

The climate impacts everything.

As far as the school goes, I am proud of my diploma and I think the University is a huge asset to the community. However, the national perception of the school lags behind what the school actually is. Probably very similar to UaB in Birmingham.

In this case, perception became reality and Memphis got left behind again. Not just the school - the city and the county. It's a real shame. Look at the B12 footprint compared to the SEC footprint and tell me it wasn't meant to be.

(05-13-2023 01:23 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote:  Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.

What McMurphy said was IF (there's that huge little 2 letter word again) if either Colorado or Utah were to move to the Big XII then the B1G would invite Washington and Oregon at a reduced payout. OR (another huge little 2letter word) if any of the ACC were to get out of their GOR deal to leave the ACC then the B1G would look at inviting both Washington and Oregon at reduced payout.

He also stated that he didn't expect any PAC teams to go to Big XII and that the B1G doesn't want to be seen as killing off the PAC.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOn15wmJR...e=youtu.be

IF the Big10 wants any school not ND or SEC , they will invite them in the school will go, they don’t have to wait until a conference is weekend to nab schools. If they want Oregon and Washington, then Oregon and Washington will be there tomorrow, regardless of the Pac 12 status.