(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote: Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.
What McMurphy said was IF (there's that huge little 2 letter word again) if either Colorado or Utah were to move to the Big XII then the B1G would invite Washington and Oregon at a reduced payout. OR (another huge little 2letter word) if any of the ACC were to get out of their GOR deal to leave the ACC then the B1G would look at inviting both Washington and Oregon at reduced payout.
He also stated that he didn't expect any PAC teams to go to Big XII and that the B1G doesn't want to be seen as killing off the PAC.
IF the Big10 wants any school not ND or SEC , they will invite them in the school will go, they don’t have to wait until a conference is weakened to nab schools. If they want Oregon and Washington, then Oregon and Washington will be there tomorrow, regardless of the Pac 12 status.
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2023 11:07 AM by BinghamptonNed.)
(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote: Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.
Brett McMurphy shills more for the demise of the Pac 12 than any other writer.
(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote: Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.
What McMurphy said was IF (there's that huge little 2 letter word again) if either Colorado or Utah were to move to the Big XII then the B1G would invite Washington and Oregon at a reduced payout. OR (another huge little 2letter word) if any of the ACC were to get out of their GOR deal to leave the ACC then the B1G would look at inviting both Washington and Oregon at reduced payout.
He also stated that he didn't expect any PAC teams to go to Big XII and that the B1G doesn't want to be seen as killing off the PAC.
IF the Big10 wants any school not ND or SEC , they will invite them in the school will go, they don’t have to wait until a conference is weakened to nab schools. If they want Oregon and Washington, then Oregon and Washington will be there tomorrow, regardless of the Pac 12 status.
The B1G has CHOSEN not to go forth until other actions are in play and the chance of the PAC survival is eliminated.
They don't want to be seen as a predator killing off the competition.
The threat of government involvement increases with every raid.
Be it through litigation or legislation, eventually college sports will be declared interstate commerce.
When it is then it would come under the control of the FTC/ICC.
When Washington and Oregon finally do move it will devalue the sports programs at every California school outside of USC and UCLA.
Pelosi would have legislation to regulate college sports proposed in the House before the Washington and Oregon press conferences are concluded.
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2023 02:16 PM by ncrdbl1.)
(05-13-2023 07:36 AM)bluebacker Wrote: We basically have to operate with 10-15% of the money the SEC and B10 teams will be getting.
I also didn't realize that the leavers got 12 years to pay the exit fees.
At 1.5 per year X 3 that's 4.5M per year split 8 ways (legacy schools)?
Do the CUSA 6 ever get any of the exit fees - as in after 3 years do they get a piece of that pie? I had thought the exit fees were to be paid over a much shorter time frame.
When you have 13 other schools to compete with I'm not sure how realistic it is to just say, 'all we have to do is win the league every 2-3 years'. Exactly what about Silverfield's performance makes us think he can win even 1 championship? This time was the time for the school to go out and bring in a coach using the Fuente / Norvell template or even a guy like Tom Herman - who has done very well at this level - but nah - they gonna roll the dice with Silverfield and when he goes 8-4 or 9-3 against mostly slaw they will give him an extension.
In the G5, 8-4 or 9-3 gets you exactly the same thing as 6-6. Nothing.
Why would the new schools get any of the exit fees? Why would you think he will be around if he doesn't improve? The Fuente template was a search and then going against the recommendation and not hiring McElwain. The Norvell template was Fuente and the staff visiting Arizona for a class on how he runs his offense, and then hiring him. after a mostly for show search, and giving Odom an offer he was for sure going to refuse.
So there is literally no template except in your imagination. Comparing us to $EC teams? Why would anyone do that? What does it have to do with anything? We for sure will have much more resources than everyone else not P5. THAT is the reality.
Negative about literally everything for no reason.
I'm still super pissed that Houston got politicked into the B12 over Memphis. Should never have happened. So yeah, that colors my perception of everything Memphis sports related.
Regarding Silverfield. I think he should already be gone. These next 2 years are super important. With the extremely favorable schedule he has been blessed with for 2023 he will 'improve' to 8 or 9 wins when in fact it will likely be the watered down league and getting to play certain teams at home this year. Then he'll get an extension. Then we get passed......again.
That is how I see it. If I'm wrong then the team will be much better and I'll be happy about it.
If I'm right I won't be happy about it but will be even more pissed at the leadership.
I 100% agree with you on all
As for you being called negative---with that guy everybody is negative/stupid/dumb/idiot/liar
Remember nobody wants Houston in the big 12--they have no chance
I am recalling two famous quotes--with apologies to Reagan and Berra
"there he goes again"---"deja vu all over again"
Same message---new different verbiage
We went from #2 on everybodys list-- to now----(Impossible to leave out when the next dominoes fall).
Four were chosen---so surely we had to have been #5 on everybodys list--right ?---maybe we get in next time
But 3 straight undefeated seasons would not have gotten us in last time---wins/losses had zero to do with who got chosen
I wonder how Boise/Coastal/USF/SMU/ECU/Tulane/FAU/Fresno/San Diego St etc etc etc etc feel about us being -----impossible to leave out next time-------not to mention that all of the above schools are inferior to our --(resources/brand/recruiting area/stadium).
If we dont get in the Big 12 next time they expand---then people are saying then we will get picked by the ACC when some leave. Then it becomes basically a gutted conference---but better than the crap conference we are in now
But hey our fan base just learned that our (goal --is different now)------the fanbase has now learned that the goal of getting into a power conference is no longer-----(we now have a different goal)-------so it really doesn't matter if we are impossible to leave out or not--as long as we are the top school outside the power 5--thats what matters
Maybe the rumor of two power conferences would be better for us and college football itself anyway
That way the schools left out can maybe get back to sanity ---and ditch the NIL--and transfer portal--the compensation would again be a free education--and if the little darlings don't like it they don't have to play----then the remaining schools start their own national championship--and get back to the college football we all grew up with--------and with a national playoff instead of dull bowls
Not everyone, just you Simple Jack, and not only by me, try to keep up. Everyone involved with the university was told that we were in. You and one other are the only two slow leaks that still can't process that fact.
Every post is a layup. Another post filled with complete nonsense.
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2023 02:16 PM by Stammers.)
Let me guess ---something changed LOL------If the university was told that we were in----obviously they need better contacts--because we didn't get in. PRETENDING we were #2 on the list didn't make it so
I haven't been real close to the program in a number of years----and even I knew we wouldn't get in last go round---and MOST/not all of my contacts are now dead.
We were not the first one chosen by the BIG LEAST years ago either
I hope we somehow/someway end up in the BIG 12----otherwise like some have suggested we might have a shot at a GUTTED ACC
One thing is certain---if we miss the next round of expansion ----then TIGER sports will change----it is dire---we have to get in someway somehow---------and play any card all cards ---without embarrassment ----get the local and state media and politicians involved ---its that important and dire
(05-14-2023 02:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: Let me guess ---something changed LOL------If the university was told that we were in----obviously they need better contacts--because we didn't get in. PRETENDING we were #2 on the list didn't make it so
I haven't been real close to the program in a number of years----and even I knew we wouldn't get in last go round---and MOST/not all of my contacts are now dead.
We were not the first one chosen by the BIG LEAST years ago either
I hope we somehow/someway end up in the BIG 12----otherwise like some have suggested we might have a shot at a GUTTED ACC
One thing is certain---if we miss the next round of expansion ----then TIGER sports will change----it is dire---we have to get in someway somehow---------and play any card all cards ---without embarrassment ----get the local and state media and politicians involved ---its that important and dire
AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.
Then not only do they all need better contacts--or you were their contact LOL------they are also extremely naive..No wonder we are always the bridesmaid -never the bride
The contacts I have said no way we were getting in------before the announcement was made - I started thread titled- "The reputation of a city"- -----after you had screamed (tigerscane) style for months that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati-and nobody wanted Houston -------later Calkins did a piece on the subject .
Guess what--we didn't get in---guess what Houston did---guess what still no admission of being wrong ----Oh Yeah ! I keep forgetting ---as always with your predictions/statements --- something changed --always does
P.T. Barnum had it right LOL
I just hope we were #5 on everybodys list only behind Houston/BYU/UCF/Cincinnati-----but SMU/BOISE/USF/FAU/FRESNO/San Diego St/Coastal etc etc etc--- might have something to say about that
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2023 08:36 PM by jsw3ent.)
(05-14-2023 08:34 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: Then not only do they all need better contacts--or you were their contact LOL------they are also extremely naive..No wonder we are always the bridesmaid -never the bride
The contacts I have said no way we were getting in------before the announcement was made - I started thread titled- "The reputation of a city"- -----after you had screamed (tigerscane) style for months that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati-and nobody wanted Houston -------later Calkins did a piece on the subject .
Guess what--we didn't get in---guess what Houston did---guess what still no admission of being wrong ----Oh Yeah ! I keep forgetting ---as always with your predictions/statements --- something changed --always does
P.T. Barnum had it right LOL
I just hope we were #5 on everybodys list only behind Houston/BYU/UCF/Cincinnati-----but SMU/BOISE/USF/FAU/FRESNO/San Diego St/Coastal etc etc etc--- might have something to say about that
Simple Jack, I did NOT predict that we were second in line; I correctly said that our admin, coaching staffs and all our top boosters were told by Rudd and Bowen that we were in. I was 100% right. Let's try one more time...
Quote:Aside from throwing speculation Hardaway’s way, Lefft also claimed that Memphis brass told Smith that the Tigers were headed for the Big 12 when they lured him away from Texas Tech two years ago.
“The first thing they told him is we’re going to the Big 12. It’s pretty much a lock,” he said. “He gets there and all of a sudden it appears as though they were never really a contender.
“There’s some people that now sit on the board that are some pretty significant folks, along with the president and both the athletic administrators who were part of the process, and (they) represented to him that this was going to happen.”
Good God, you are dumb.
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2023 09:29 PM by Stammers.)
(05-12-2023 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote: As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...
- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.
I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.
In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.
In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.
(05-12-2023 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote: As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...
- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.
I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.
In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.
In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.
Good stuff...Thanks!
The clock seems to be ticking hard on the conference situation, especially with the PAC12.
They are currently negotiating their new TV deal which may be weak enough to trigger the Washington & Oregon move to the B1G.
If that happens then the PAC becomes really vulnerable to the B12 and might lose the 4 corners schools.
The PAC then raids the MWC and the AAC but Memphis won't be included in that.
If all those dominos fall then the SEC might renew it's raid on the ACC.
Memphis only hope for 'inclusion' under this scenario would seem to be as backfill for the AAC.
This was not the time to ride to war with Silverfield. We have 3 years of data that has Tommy West written all over it.
(05-14-2023 02:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: Let me guess ---something changed LOL------If the university was told that we were in----obviously they need better contacts--because we didn't get in. PRETENDING we were #2 on the list didn't make it so
I haven't been real close to the program in a number of years----and even I knew we wouldn't get in last go round---and MOST/not all of my contacts are now dead.
We were not the first one chosen by the BIG LEAST years ago either
I hope we somehow/someway end up in the BIG 12----otherwise like some have suggested we might have a shot at a GUTTED ACC
One thing is certain---if we miss the next round of expansion ----then TIGER sports will change----it is dire---we have to get in someway somehow---------and play any card all cards ---without embarrassment ----get the local and state media and politicians involved ---its that important and dire
AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.
Another layup by Simple Jack.
Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.
Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.
(05-14-2023 08:34 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: Then not only do they all need better contacts--or you were their contact LOL------they are also extremely naive..No wonder we are always the bridesmaid -never the bride
The contacts I have said no way we were getting in------before the announcement was made - I started thread titled- "The reputation of a city"- -----after you had screamed (tigerscane) style for months that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati-and nobody wanted Houston -------later Calkins did a piece on the subject .
Guess what--we didn't get in---guess what Houston did---guess what still no admission of being wrong ----Oh Yeah ! I keep forgetting ---as always with your predictions/statements --- something changed --always does
P.T. Barnum had it right LOL
I just hope we were #5 on everybodys list only behind Houston/BYU/UCF/Cincinnati-----but SMU/BOISE/USF/FAU/FRESNO/San Diego St/Coastal etc etc etc--- might have something to say about that
Simple Jack, I did NOT predict that we were second in line; I correctly said that our admin, coaching staffs and all our top boosters were told by Rudd and Bowen that we were in. I was 100% right. Let's try one more time...
Quote:Aside from throwing speculation Hardaway’s way, Lefft also claimed that Memphis brass told Smith that the Tigers were headed for the Big 12 when they lured him away from Texas Tech two years ago.
“The first thing they told him is we’re going to the Big 12. It’s pretty much a lock,” he said. “He gets there and all of a sudden it appears as though they were never really a contender.
“There’s some people that now sit on the board that are some pretty significant folks, along with the president and both the athletic administrators who were part of the process, and (they) represented to him that this was going to happen.”
Good God, you are dumb.
LOL---Yeah and Tubby Smith approached MEMPHIS about the job LOL
The BIG 12 told us we were in -LOL----and they told Houston that nobody wanted them
I'm not denying that our brass told Smith that we were in----but it was because they were just speculating---probably reading your repeated posts LOL---.
Smith was in the BIG 12 at the time. All Smith had to do was ask his President or the BIG 12 officials is MEMPHIS #2 on everybodys list.
MEMPHIS stupidly contacted Smith about coming here --HOPING it would help our chances of being #2 on everybodys list.
It was common knowledge all over town from ALL SOURCES that the REASON we hired Smith was to HELP our chances to get in--not because we were already in.
Think about it people---if the BIG 12 brass -had already told the MEMPHIS brass that we were already in---why in the world would we have to be hiring Smith to HELP our chances-------if the BIG 12 told us we were already in
The fact is our brass was just speculating we were in.
How stupid would it have been if the BIG 12 confided to MEMPHIS that you are in ----then MEMPHIS' brass to start spreading it around ----and to a coach in the BIG 12 that we were trying to hire. They told Smith that on speculation that we were in
So let me get this straight. Weeks/months before the announcement the big 12 brass told the MEMPHIS brass that we were #2 on --NOT ONLY-- the BIG 12' list but EVERYBODYS list only behind Cincinnati ------then it stands to reason that the BIG 12 brass would have done the same to BYU/UCF/Cin brass-------------and if we were #2 on everybody's list------then the last minute political moves by the state of TEXAS to get in Houston --would have knocked BYU or UCF out ---NOT US---because we were #2 on the list
Even the BIG 12 fiasco 6-10 ? years ago when the BIG 12 tried to strong arm Fred Smith------were we even #2 on the list back then ?----If we were that much ahead of all the other schools on the list that were trying to get in the big 12 back then----if our resume was that much stronger than all the other schools trying for inclusion---then why did they try to strong arm Fred Smith----did they do the same to all the other schools hoping for admission . The reason they tried to strong arm Fred Smith was because we were not #2 on the list back either-------------again when all of our brass were saying we were in-- a lock.
Here are facts as we know them
1--We were not #2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati----because the late addition of Houston would not have knocked us out--rather UCF or BYU
2--Obviously somebody wanted Houston-because they are in. Even if it was only the state of Texas----the big 12 brass voted them in
3--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months before the announcement was made that we were left out ------that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati
4--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months that nobody wanted Houston
5--Now You proclaim that you have never predicted that we were 2nd in line---------and now proclaiming that you were just repeating what Rudd and Bowen had spread ---and thus in agreement with me that Rudd and Bowen --just like yourself --need better sources because none of you didn't know what you were talking about and were 100% WRONG---------------so the day before when the Big 12 announced that they were exploring the possibility of expanding ----that they contacted the MEMPHIS brass and said--fear not-- because you are #2 on not just our list but everybodys list only behind Cin-----------because thats about how long you had been PREDICTING that we were #2 and Houston was out LOL
6--If the MEMPHIS brass had been told that we were in by the BIG 12 brass---don't you think that the BIG 12 brass would have put a gag order on the MEMPHIS brass--to not tell a soul so the information wouldn't leak out---and if they had a gag order then they would tell a big 12 coach that they want to hire that they were told by the big 12 brass that they were in --how dumb would that had been---and if the MEMPHIS brass did leak it out - they are irresponsible at best.
7-- We were not #2 on everybodys list---but if we had been --then as Always when you proclaim/predict--SOMETHING CHANGED always does when you proclaim/predict something --heck MUSH has a better track record of accuracy ---whether it was loose lips by the MEMPHIS brass thus pissing off the BIG12 brass/ or you betraying all of your outstanding sources by leaking private information on MT.ORG thus pissing off the big 12 brass LOL/or the state of Texas and their politics removing from us from being #2 on the list because of all above SOMETHING CHANGED------the fact remains you were wrong and the reason matters not.
8--I along with the entire MEMPHIS fanbase wishes you had been right----but sadly you were 100% wrong.
(This post was last modified: 05-15-2023 04:09 PM by jsw3ent.)
(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote: Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.
No he didn't, he said that they were vetted and cleared by the Big Ten but that the money wasn't there for the Big Ten to add them without schools taking a pay cut. Then the internet does what the internet does and took it the next step and suddenly he said something that he did not say.
(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote: Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.
Brett McMurphy shills more for the demise of the Pac 12 than any other writer.
(05-14-2023 08:34 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: Then not only do they all need better contacts--or you were their contact LOL------they are also extremely naive..No wonder we are always the bridesmaid -never the bride
The contacts I have said no way we were getting in------before the announcement was made - I started thread titled- "The reputation of a city"- -----after you had screamed (tigerscane) style for months that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati-and nobody wanted Houston -------later Calkins did a piece on the subject .
Guess what--we didn't get in---guess what Houston did---guess what still no admission of being wrong ----Oh Yeah ! I keep forgetting ---as always with your predictions/statements --- something changed --always does
P.T. Barnum had it right LOL
I just hope we were #5 on everybodys list only behind Houston/BYU/UCF/Cincinnati-----but SMU/BOISE/USF/FAU/FRESNO/San Diego St/Coastal etc etc etc--- might have something to say about that
Simple Jack, I did NOT predict that we were second in line; I correctly said that our admin, coaching staffs and all our top boosters were told by Rudd and Bowen that we were in. I was 100% right. Let's try one more time...
Quote:Aside from throwing speculation Hardaway’s way, Lefft also claimed that Memphis brass told Smith that the Tigers were headed for the Big 12 when they lured him away from Texas Tech two years ago.
“The first thing they told him is we’re going to the Big 12. It’s pretty much a lock,” he said. “He gets there and all of a sudden it appears as though they were never really a contender.
“There’s some people that now sit on the board that are some pretty significant folks, along with the president and both the athletic administrators who were part of the process, and (they) represented to him that this was going to happen.”
Good God, you are dumb.
LOL---Yeah and Tubby Smith approached MEMPHIS about the job LOL
The BIG 12 told us we were in -LOL----and they told Houston that nobody wanted them
I'm not denying that our brass told Smith that we were in----but it was because they were just speculating---probably reading your repeated posts LOL---.
Smith was in the BIG 12 at the time. All Smith had to do was ask his President or the BIG 12 officials is MEMPHIS #2 on everybodys list.
MEMPHIS stupidly contacted Smith about coming here --HOPING it would help our chances of being #2 on everybodys list.
It was common knowledge all over town from ALL SOURCES that the REASON we hired Smith was to HELP our chances to get in--not because we were already in.
Think about it people---if the BIG 12 brass -had already told the MEMPHIS brass that we were already in---why in the world would we have to be hiring Smith to HELP our chances-------if the BIG 12 told us we were already in
The fact is our brass was just speculating we were in.
How stupid would it have been if the BIG 12 confided to MEMPHIS that you are in ----then MEMPHIS' brass to start spreading it around ----and to a coach in the BIG 12 that we were trying to hire. They told Smith that on speculation that we were in
So let me get this straight. Weeks/months before the announcement the big 12 brass told the MEMPHIS brass that we were #2 on --NOT ONLY-- the BIG 12' list but EVERYBODYS list only behind Cincinnati ------then it stands to reason that the BIG 12 brass would have done the same to BYU/UCF/Cin brass-------------and if we were #2 on everybody's list------then the last minute political moves by the state of TEXAS to get in Houston --would have knocked BYU or UCF out ---NOT US---because we were #2 on the list
Even the BIG 12 fiasco 6-10 ? years ago when the BIG 12 tried to strong arm Fred Smith------were we even #2 on the list back then ?----If we were that much ahead of all the other schools on the list that were trying to get in the big 12 back then----if our resume was that much stronger than all the other schools trying for inclusion---then why did they try to strong arm Fred Smith----did they do the same to all the other schools hoping for admission . The reason they tried to strong arm Fred Smith was because we were not #2 on the list back either-------------again when all of our brass were saying we were in-- a lock.
Here are facts as we know them
1--We were not #2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati----because the late addition of Houston would not have knocked us out--rather UCF or BYU
2--Obviously somebody wanted Houston-because they are in. Even if it was only the state of Texas----the big 12 brass voted them in
3--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months before the announcement was made that we were left out ------that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati
4--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months that nobody wanted Houston
5--Now You proclaim that you have never predicted that we were 2nd in line---------and now proclaiming that you were just repeating what Rudd and Bowen had spread ---and thus in agreement with me that Rudd and Bowen --just like yourself --need better sources because none of you didn't know what you were talking about and were 100% WRONG---------------so the day before when the Big 12 announced that they were exploring the possibility of expanding ----that they contacted the MEMPHIS brass and said--fear not-- because you are #2 on not just our list but everybodys list only behind Cin-----------because thats about how long you had been PREDICTING that we were #2 and Houston was out LOL
6--If the MEMPHIS brass had been told that we were in by the BIG 12 brass---don't you think that the BIG 12 brass would have put a gag order on the MEMPHIS brass--to not tell a soul so the information wouldn't leak out---and if they had a gag order then they would tell a big 12 coach that they want to hire that they were told by the big 12 brass that they were in --how dumb would that had been---and if the MEMPHIS brass did leak it out - they are irresponsible at best.
7-- We were not #2 on everybodys list---but if we had been --then as Always when you proclaim/predict--SOMETHING CHANGED always does when you proclaim/predict something --heck MUSH has a better track record of accuracy ---whether it was loose lips by the MEMPHIS brass thus pissing off the BIG12 brass/ or you betraying all of your outstanding sources by leaking private information on MT.ORG thus pissing off the big 12 brass LOL/or the state of Texas and their politics removing from us from being #2 on the list because of all above SOMETHING CHANGED------the fact remains you were wrong and the reason matters not.
8--I along with the entire MEMPHIS fanbase wishes you had been right----but sadly you were 100% wrong.
(05-13-2023 08:51 AM)ExpertAd991 Wrote: Apparently Brett McMurphy has posted that the B1G had already invited both Oregon and Washington. Not only that but there's a report by another guy that said Clemson and Florida State are trying to break their GOR with the ACC. Maybe Memphis will get into a P-5 after all.
Brett McMurphy shills more for the demise of the Pac 12 than any other writer.
He must be getting a pretty good check from ESPN
Or he's reporting facts and people don't like it.
Or people are hearing only what they want to hear and ignoring others like University Presidents from the PAC 12 and the B1G. You know, the actual decision makers.
(05-12-2023 11:34 AM)Stammers Wrote: As usual, the same handful of clowns can only post the same negative stupidities over and over. Here is a rough guess at how much money we will be making between now and at least 2032, factoring in the following...
- The current contract to 2032 is for around $7 million per year
- Houston, UCF and Cincinnati will be paying exit fees of $1.5 million each year for 12 years between 2025 and 2036.
- The new AAC schools likely won't get a full cut for 3 years.
I can't find anything concrete on the status of the contract, but on the various boards, it seems that the dollar amount will stay intact through 2032. If that is the case, the remaining schools should be splitting roughly $9.5 million each this year, between $8.3 million and $7.2 million the two following years, and an additional $550,000 per school from 2025 -2036.
In an apples to apples comparison, the MWC is at around $4 million per year and the Sunbelt and CUSA are at around $500,000 per team.
In the end, the best case scenario, which is win the AAC every 2 or 3 years, which gets us into the playoff, which gets us more money, which puts us in a place where were are impossible to leave out, when the next dominoes fall.
Good stuff...Thanks!
The clock seems to be ticking hard on the conference situation, especially with the PAC12.
They are currently negotiating their new TV deal which may be weak enough to trigger the Washington & Oregon move to the B1G.
If that happens then the PAC becomes really vulnerable to the B12 and might lose the 4 corners schools.
The PAC then raids the MWC and the AAC but Memphis won't be included in that.
If all those dominos fall then the SEC might renew it's raid on the ACC.
Memphis only hope for 'inclusion' under this scenario would seem to be as backfill for the AAC.
This was not the time to ride to war with Silverfield. We have 3 years of data that has Tommy West written all over it.
I have no idea why posters make stuff up that isn't even close to being based on reality. Tommy West stopped recruiting, and had two seasons at 2-10 his last 4 years. How does anything Silverfield has done have that written all over it?
When some of our posters have their mind set on something, they will say the most ridiculous nonsense and try to pass it off as facts.
(05-14-2023 08:34 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: Then not only do they all need better contacts--or you were their contact LOL------they are also extremely naive..No wonder we are always the bridesmaid -never the bride
The contacts I have said no way we were getting in------before the announcement was made - I started thread titled- "The reputation of a city"- -----after you had screamed (tigerscane) style for months that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati-and nobody wanted Houston -------later Calkins did a piece on the subject .
Guess what--we didn't get in---guess what Houston did---guess what still no admission of being wrong ----Oh Yeah ! I keep forgetting ---as always with your predictions/statements --- something changed --always does
P.T. Barnum had it right LOL
I just hope we were #5 on everybodys list only behind Houston/BYU/UCF/Cincinnati-----but SMU/BOISE/USF/FAU/FRESNO/San Diego St/Coastal etc etc etc--- might have something to say about that
Simple Jack, I did NOT predict that we were second in line; I correctly said that our admin, coaching staffs and all our top boosters were told by Rudd and Bowen that we were in. I was 100% right. Let's try one more time...
Quote:Aside from throwing speculation Hardaway’s way, Lefft also claimed that Memphis brass told Smith that the Tigers were headed for the Big 12 when they lured him away from Texas Tech two years ago.
“The first thing they told him is we’re going to the Big 12. It’s pretty much a lock,” he said. “He gets there and all of a sudden it appears as though they were never really a contender.
“There’s some people that now sit on the board that are some pretty significant folks, along with the president and both the athletic administrators who were part of the process, and (they) represented to him that this was going to happen.”
Good God, you are dumb.
LOL---Yeah and Tubby Smith approached MEMPHIS about the job LOL
The BIG 12 told us we were in -LOL----and they told Houston that nobody wanted them
I'm not denying that our brass told Smith that we were in----but it was because they were just speculating---probably reading your repeated posts LOL---.
Smith was in the BIG 12 at the time. All Smith had to do was ask his President or the BIG 12 officials is MEMPHIS #2 on everybodys list.
MEMPHIS stupidly contacted Smith about coming here --HOPING it would help our chances of being #2 on everybodys list.
It was common knowledge all over town from ALL SOURCES that the REASON we hired Smith was to HELP our chances to get in--not because we were already in.
Think about it people---if the BIG 12 brass -had already told the MEMPHIS brass that we were already in---why in the world would we have to be hiring Smith to HELP our chances-------if the BIG 12 told us we were already in
The fact is our brass was just speculating we were in.
How stupid would it have been if the BIG 12 confided to MEMPHIS that you are in ----then MEMPHIS' brass to start spreading it around ----and to a coach in the BIG 12 that we were trying to hire. They told Smith that on speculation that we were in
So let me get this straight. Weeks/months before the announcement the big 12 brass told the MEMPHIS brass that we were #2 on --NOT ONLY-- the BIG 12' list but EVERYBODYS list only behind Cincinnati ------then it stands to reason that the BIG 12 brass would have done the same to BYU/UCF/Cin brass-------------and if we were #2 on everybody's list------then the last minute political moves by the state of TEXAS to get in Houston --would have knocked BYU or UCF out ---NOT US---because we were #2 on the list
Even the BIG 12 fiasco 6-10 ? years ago when the BIG 12 tried to strong arm Fred Smith------were we even #2 on the list back then ?----If we were that much ahead of all the other schools on the list that were trying to get in the big 12 back then----if our resume was that much stronger than all the other schools trying for inclusion---then why did they try to strong arm Fred Smith----did they do the same to all the other schools hoping for admission . The reason they tried to strong arm Fred Smith was because we were not #2 on the list back either-------------again when all of our brass were saying we were in-- a lock.
Here are facts as we know them
1--We were not #2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati----because the late addition of Houston would not have knocked us out--rather UCF or BYU
2--Obviously somebody wanted Houston-because they are in. Even if it was only the state of Texas----the big 12 brass voted them in
3--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months before the announcement was made that we were left out ------that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati
4--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months that nobody wanted Houston
5--Now You proclaim that you have never predicted that we were 2nd in line---------and now proclaiming that you were just repeating what Rudd and Bowen had spread ---and thus in agreement with me that Rudd and Bowen --just like yourself --need better sources because none of you didn't know what you were talking about and were 100% WRONG---------------so the day before when the Big 12 announced that they were exploring the possibility of expanding ----that they contacted the MEMPHIS brass and said--fear not-- because you are #2 on not just our list but everybodys list only behind Cin-----------because thats about how long you had been PREDICTING that we were #2 and Houston was out LOL
6--If the MEMPHIS brass had been told that we were in by the BIG 12 brass---don't you think that the BIG 12 brass would have put a gag order on the MEMPHIS brass--to not tell a soul so the information wouldn't leak out---and if they had a gag order then they would tell a big 12 coach that they want to hire that they were told by the big 12 brass that they were in --how dumb would that had been---and if the MEMPHIS brass did leak it out - they are irresponsible at best.
7-- We were not #2 on everybodys list---but if we had been --then as Always when you proclaim/predict--SOMETHING CHANGED always does when you proclaim/predict something --heck MUSH has a better track record of accuracy ---whether it was loose lips by the MEMPHIS brass thus pissing off the BIG12 brass/ or you betraying all of your outstanding sources by leaking private information on MT.ORG thus pissing off the big 12 brass LOL/or the state of Texas and their politics removing from us from being #2 on the list because of all above SOMETHING CHANGED------the fact remains you were wrong and the reason matters not.
8--I along with the entire MEMPHIS fanbase wishes you had been right----but sadly you were 100% wrong.
(05-14-2023 08:34 PM)jsw3ent Wrote: Then not only do they all need better contacts--or you were their contact LOL------they are also extremely naive..No wonder we are always the bridesmaid -never the bride
The contacts I have said no way we were getting in------before the announcement was made - I started thread titled- "The reputation of a city"- -----after you had screamed (tigerscane) style for months that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati-and nobody wanted Houston -------later Calkins did a piece on the subject .
Guess what--we didn't get in---guess what Houston did---guess what still no admission of being wrong ----Oh Yeah ! I keep forgetting ---as always with your predictions/statements --- something changed --always does
P.T. Barnum had it right LOL
I just hope we were #5 on everybodys list only behind Houston/BYU/UCF/Cincinnati-----but SMU/BOISE/USF/FAU/FRESNO/San Diego St/Coastal etc etc etc--- might have something to say about that
Simple Jack, I did NOT predict that we were second in line; I correctly said that our admin, coaching staffs and all our top boosters were told by Rudd and Bowen that we were in. I was 100% right. Let's try one more time...
Quote:Aside from throwing speculation Hardaway’s way, Lefft also claimed that Memphis brass told Smith that the Tigers were headed for the Big 12 when they lured him away from Texas Tech two years ago.
“The first thing they told him is we’re going to the Big 12. It’s pretty much a lock,” he said. “He gets there and all of a sudden it appears as though they were never really a contender.
“There’s some people that now sit on the board that are some pretty significant folks, along with the president and both the athletic administrators who were part of the process, and (they) represented to him that this was going to happen.”
Good God, you are dumb.
LOL---Yeah and Tubby Smith approached MEMPHIS about the job LOL
The BIG 12 told us we were in -LOL----and they told Houston that nobody wanted them
I'm not denying that our brass told Smith that we were in----but it was because they were just speculating---probably reading your repeated posts LOL---.
Smith was in the BIG 12 at the time. All Smith had to do was ask his President or the BIG 12 officials is MEMPHIS #2 on everybodys list.
MEMPHIS stupidly contacted Smith about coming here --HOPING it would help our chances of being #2 on everybodys list.
It was common knowledge all over town from ALL SOURCES that the REASON we hired Smith was to HELP our chances to get in--not because we were already in.
Think about it people---if the BIG 12 brass -had already told the MEMPHIS brass that we were already in---why in the world would we have to be hiring Smith to HELP our chances-------if the BIG 12 told us we were already in
The fact is our brass was just speculating we were in.
How stupid would it have been if the BIG 12 confided to MEMPHIS that you are in ----then MEMPHIS' brass to start spreading it around ----and to a coach in the BIG 12 that we were trying to hire. They told Smith that on speculation that we were in
So let me get this straight. Weeks/months before the announcement the big 12 brass told the MEMPHIS brass that we were #2 on --NOT ONLY-- the BIG 12' list but EVERYBODYS list only behind Cincinnati ------then it stands to reason that the BIG 12 brass would have done the same to BYU/UCF/Cin brass-------------and if we were #2 on everybody's list------then the last minute political moves by the state of TEXAS to get in Houston --would have knocked BYU or UCF out ---NOT US---because we were #2 on the list
Even the BIG 12 fiasco 6-10 ? years ago when the BIG 12 tried to strong arm Fred Smith------were we even #2 on the list back then ?----If we were that much ahead of all the other schools on the list that were trying to get in the big 12 back then----if our resume was that much stronger than all the other schools trying for inclusion---then why did they try to strong arm Fred Smith----did they do the same to all the other schools hoping for admission . The reason they tried to strong arm Fred Smith was because we were not #2 on the list back either-------------again when all of our brass were saying we were in-- a lock.
Here are facts as we know them
1--We were not #2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati----because the late addition of Houston would not have knocked us out--rather UCF or BYU
2--Obviously somebody wanted Houston-because they are in. Even if it was only the state of Texas----the big 12 brass voted them in
3--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months before the announcement was made that we were left out ------that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati
4--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months that nobody wanted Houston
5--Now You proclaim that you have never predicted that we were 2nd in line---------and now proclaiming that you were just repeating what Rudd and Bowen had spread ---and thus in agreement with me that Rudd and Bowen --just like yourself --need better sources because none of you didn't know what you were talking about and were 100% WRONG---------------so the day before when the Big 12 announced that they were exploring the possibility of expanding ----that they contacted the MEMPHIS brass and said--fear not-- because you are #2 on not just our list but everybodys list only behind Cin-----------because thats about how long you had been PREDICTING that we were #2 and Houston was out LOL
6--If the MEMPHIS brass had been told that we were in by the BIG 12 brass---don't you think that the BIG 12 brass would have put a gag order on the MEMPHIS brass--to not tell a soul so the information wouldn't leak out---and if they had a gag order then they would tell a big 12 coach that they want to hire that they were told by the big 12 brass that they were in --how dumb would that had been---and if the MEMPHIS brass did leak it out - they are irresponsible at best.
7-- We were not #2 on everybodys list---but if we had been --then as Always when you proclaim/predict--SOMETHING CHANGED always does when you proclaim/predict something --heck MUSH has a better track record of accuracy ---whether it was loose lips by the MEMPHIS brass thus pissing off the BIG12 brass/ or you betraying all of your outstanding sources by leaking private information on MT.ORG thus pissing off the big 12 brass LOL/or the state of Texas and their politics removing from us from being #2 on the list because of all above SOMETHING CHANGED------the fact remains you were wrong and the reason matters not.
8--I along with the entire MEMPHIS fanbase wishes you had been right----but sadly you were 100% wrong.
Documented that we were told that we were in. Like I said, you are too dumb and that will never change. I couldn't imagine having to live a single day of my life with your brain.
You are the only person------------------------------------on------the PLANET-------------------THAT writes like this. 6 year olds in their first week of grade----------one don't write---------------like this. Your self-------------awareness IS zero.
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Rough Estimate Of TV Money
LOL---Very good