We missed on Prime

(05-18-2023 09:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:04 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-17-2023 07:57 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-17-2023 07:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-17-2023 07:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  What makes us think we’d dominate the AAC and regularly contend for a playoff spot? We’re picked 3rd this year in the AAC and have been 3-5 in the conference the past 2 seasons. If this was Mike Norvell’s Memphis program I might share that optimism, but Silverman does not exactly instill that same level of confidence.

I understand the thought of preferring to be in the national playoff conversation instead of P5 purgatory like a Vandy or Indiana, but the financial disparity is starting to take its toll on other sports… ie basketball. We have to move up, if we’re going to maintain both a football program and a nationally competitive basketball program. If we don’t, football will eventually have to go.

I obviously prefer to be P5. The point is that when we get in we will be better than the programs I listed. In the meantime, we are more fun to watch than Vandy and the programs listed, and we have an infinitely better chance at making the playoffs than they do.

I get the premise & I agree with it as long as we can consistently compete for the conference title. Unfortunately, that’s not where we’ve been under Ryan.

As long as "compete for the conference title" is an objective measurement, meaning playing in the conference title game, I would agree. Anything less is simply someone's subjective idea - like playing close games, within a break or two of winning, almost got to the title game etc, etc. And such should not be acceptable for another season. IMO, play in the conference championship game for the conference title or "contending" means nothing especially with this favorable schedule.

I agree with this. We get Tulane and SMU at home. There is no reason why we shouldn't be at least in the AACCG. In theory, we could lose to Missouri and Boise, lose two games in conference and still play in the AACCG at 8-4. I wouldn't call that a great season by any stretch; maybe it is a good season if we actually win the game and then our bowl game to finish 10-4.

Anything less wouldn't be a good season. At 8-4, Silverfield gets at least another season, like it or not. I don't think he deserves to survive at 8-5.

I think you are right about the whole thing. I just wish they had moved on from Silverfield after last year. Yeah, the qb probably leaves but I think every year Silverfield stays is another year wasted and another year of mediocrity.

Again, the Tigers can go 8-4 next season without improving simply due to the favorable schedule.

The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

(05-19-2023 12:34 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

(05-19-2023 12:46 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:34 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

That won’t make the schedule any easier

(05-19-2023 01:09 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:46 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:34 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

That won’t make the schedule any easier

The conference schedule is easier and the two (apparently) toughest conf. foes come into the Liberty Bowl. Boise is a home game.

Cincy, UH, and UCF not being in the conference clearly make the conference substantially weaker in football and basketball. Anyone who would argue otherwise is just being hard-headed and/or trolling.

(05-19-2023 01:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:09 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:46 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:34 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

That won’t make the schedule any easier

The conference schedule is easier and the two (apparently) toughest conf. foes come into the Liberty Bowl. Boise is a home game.

Cincy, UH, and UCF not being in the conference clearly make the conference substantially weaker in football and basketball. Anyone who would argue otherwise is just being hard-headed and/or trolling.

What are you talking about? I was responding to “backing down the schedule”. That would be the OOC schedule, correct? The school has no control over the conference schedule. You should know this.

(05-19-2023 01:29 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:09 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:46 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:34 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

That won’t make the schedule any easier

The conference schedule is easier and the two (apparently) toughest conf. foes come into the Liberty Bowl. Boise is a home game.

Cincy, UH, and UCF not being in the conference clearly make the conference substantially weaker in football and basketball. Anyone who would argue otherwise is just being hard-headed and/or trolling.

What are you talking about? I was responding to “backing down the schedule”. That would be the OOC schedule, correct? The school has no control over the conference schedule. You should know this.

Backing down the schedule is what it is, regardless of who controls it.
The schedule will be easier… the record should improve… the team may still be every bit as pedestrian as its been under Silverberg for the past 2 years.

(05-19-2023 01:29 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:09 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:46 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:34 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

That won’t make the schedule any easier

The conference schedule is easier and the two (apparently) toughest conf. foes come into the Liberty Bowl. Boise is a home game.

Cincy, UH, and UCF not being in the conference clearly make the conference substantially weaker in football and basketball. Anyone who would argue otherwise is just being hard-headed and/or trolling.

What are you talking about? I was responding to “backing down the schedule”. That would be the OOC schedule, correct? The school has no control over the conference schedule. You should know this.

I'm talking about the schedule as a whole as it will relate to the credit Silverfield will likely get if he goes 8-4 or 9-3.

(05-19-2023 02:27 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:29 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:09 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:46 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

That won’t make the schedule any easier

The conference schedule is easier and the two (apparently) toughest conf. foes come into the Liberty Bowl. Boise is a home game.

Cincy, UH, and UCF not being in the conference clearly make the conference substantially weaker in football and basketball. Anyone who would argue otherwise is just being hard-headed and/or trolling.

What are you talking about? I was responding to “backing down the schedule”. That would be the OOC schedule, correct? The school has no control over the conference schedule. You should know this.

I'm talking about the schedule as a whole as it will relate to the credit Silverfield will likely get if he goes 8-4 or 9-3.

Gotcha. I was confused as to how that was related to my original post.

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

magic jack

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

Folks don't want to hear this. Our weak leadership is busy building a case for continued in-action & pretend it's improvement.

(05-19-2023 01:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:09 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:46 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:34 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

That won’t make the schedule any easier

The conference schedule is easier and the two (apparently) toughest conf. foes come into the Liberty Bowl. Boise is a home game.

Cincy, UH, and UCF not being in the conference clearly make the conference substantially weaker in football and basketball. Anyone who would argue otherwise is just being hard-headed and/or trolling.

Liberty Stadium! The Liberty Bowl is now only the Bowl game. Is it hard headed to point out that UTSA, Boca, and Birmingham are very competitive programs? IMO any one who keeps pounding that the American is a weak sister conference and then states unequivocally that the Tigers should always win it and be in the National tournament is being hard headed.

(05-21-2023 04:50 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 01:09 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:46 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 12:34 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  How have they backed down the schedule? We have perennial Top 25 Boise State and P5 Missouri coming in, regional “rival” AState on the road (always a tough game) and everyone’s traditional buy game. I suppose it could be better but it’s not like they aren’t trying.

Missouri was coming in - now the Tigers are going there, lol.

That won’t make the schedule any easier

The conference schedule is easier and the two (apparently) toughest conf. foes come into the Liberty Bowl. Boise is a home game.

Cincy, UH, and UCF not being in the conference clearly make the conference substantially weaker in football and basketball. Anyone who would argue otherwise is just being hard-headed and/or trolling.

Liberty Stadium! The Liberty Bowl is now only the Bowl game. Is it hard headed to point out that UTSA, Boca, and Birmingham are very competitive programs? IMO any one who keeps pounding that the American is a weak sister conference and then states unequivocally that the Tigers should always win it and be in the National tournament is being hard headed.

I think we know we won’t consistently been in the tournament picture.

(05-21-2023 04:09 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-19-2023 11:31 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The ‘ol “fools gold” improvement by backing down the schedule only makes it harder for the replacement. We did the same thing later in the Tommy West era & I believe he even squeaked out a 6-6 record and a Beef O’ Brady’s Bowl late in his tenure… where he were exposed by South Florida 41-14. Regardless, the cupboard was left barren for Larry Porter.

Folks don't want to hear this. Our weak leadership is busy building a case for continued in-action & pretend it's improvement.

Not gonna argue with that one.

Ike’s been complaining about the football schedule for years

(05-24-2023 08:18 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s been complaining about the football schedule for years

Ike says a lot of things and eventually will be correct about something