(07-19-2023 11:37 AM)wml33t Wrote:  

(07-19-2023 10:26 AM)Blow Gym rat Wrote:  Is that just wishful thinking, or an actual possibility?

I'm guessing wishful thinking. Honestly, I'm not sure that adding the DIII Runner-Up to our schedule is necessarily wise.

They won the championship! And completely agree with you that it would be a more competitive game than we would want for the D3 game.

(07-19-2023 10:26 AM)Blow Gym rat Wrote:  Is that just wishful thinking, or an actual possibility?

I’m hoping both! I have no inside info - was just responding to what some here were defining as a disappointing home schedule.

You can’t have it both ways (not speaking of you BGR) - complain about a lackluster schedule and then rebuff probably the top two local teams who could electrify games at Kaplan.

Our home schedule is terrible, but let me ask a question. Who would really want to come to play us, as bad as we are, and risk a loss? No real upside IMO.

(07-19-2023 01:39 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  Our home schedule is terrible, but let me ask a question. Who would really want to come to play us, as bad as we are, and risk a loss? No real upside IMO.

What a depressing POV.

I guess other programs like ours who also need home games. That’s what mid majors do.

(07-19-2023 01:39 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  Our home schedule is terrible, but let me ask a question. Who would really want to come to play us, as bad as we are, and risk a loss? No real upside IMO.

When was the last time a then or future ACC team graced us with their presence in the Hall/Kap? Va. Tech in 2004?

I think we're overdue ...

I'm genuinely confused, do people actually consider this a disappointing home schedule?

Last year was fun with having both Army and Navy come to town (I went to Army, great game!) but most on this thread complain about inviting Patriot league teams...

What's a better year in the last 5 or more? You've got to go back to the VCU/GMU/ODU days of the CAA to have a great home schedule imo. We've got patriot/AE/Sun Belt coming to town, what are we looking for? More A10? Sure that'd be great, but I wouldn't call the 3 on the books "disappointing." In fact I'm more interested in the outcomes of those than probably half of our conference games...

(07-19-2023 11:39 AM)formertribe Wrote:  

(07-19-2023 11:37 AM)wml33t Wrote:  

(07-19-2023 10:26 AM)Blow Gym rat Wrote:  Is that just wishful thinking, or an actual possibility?

I'm guessing wishful thinking. Honestly, I'm not sure that adding the DIII Runner-Up to our schedule is necessarily wise.

They won the championship! And completely agree with you that it would be a more competitive game than we would want for the D3 game.

My mistake, got the women's and men's teams mixed up. Either way - yeah, I don't see a real benefit to losing to CNU at home.

Sure, they're a good local team at the DII level. It's not like they're going to bring thousands to Kaplan - they averaged 1k attendance at home.

To be fair, when I responded about our home schedule, I was referring to the OOC schedule.

If we want to have a decent OOC home schedule, how about Norfolk State, Longwood, VMI, Radford, or maybe even Liberty? At least we may get some fans who travel or who have local alumni. Playing teams like Army and Navy is nice enough, but nobody really cares. American?

I love the CNU angle, BTW.

(07-19-2023 06:27 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  To be fair, when I responded about our home schedule, I was referring to the OOC schedule.

If we want to have a decent OOC home schedule, how about Norfolk State, Longwood, VMI, Radford, or maybe even Liberty? At least we may get some fans who travel or who have local alumni. Playing teams like Army and Navy is nice enough, but nobody really cares. American?

I love the CNU angle, BTW.

Be sure to include alternating home games with ODU and Richmond.

The cruel reality is we have to find teams that want US to play them as a home and away series since we cannot afford to pay teams to come play us.

VCU will not play us as we would hurt their NET since we are so bad and they did not want to play us with Knight as we could have won.


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(07-17-2023 05:47 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  I like that it seems like we're focusing on a mostly regional schedule (at least with the games announced so far), sans the random Pepperdine buy game.

Edit: I forgot we also have a tournament in Colorado.

Per the D1 Docket, our announced OOC games so far are:

@ GW
@ Navy
@ Richmond
@ Norfolk State
@ Pepperdine

vs American
vs UMBC
vs ODU

Colorado tournament (Air Force, Omaha, Lindenwood)

That's 11 games. I would guess that we'll have at least 1 home D3 game, and 1 buy game against a Power Conference foe to round out the slate, but I have 0 insider knowledge.

Actually isn’t that 10 games? I didn’t think the Air Force tournament was a full round robin - rather a bracket that would have a championship and consolation. Not certain but that’s how I took it.

If true, we should have 3 other games. I would think two would be home to include an exam period D3. Would be odd not to have one big P5 game.

It’s really not a bad looking schedule to me. A number of close teams with a good mix of mid major conferences represented.

The Pepperdine game looks strange by itself. You would think for that trip you would throw in another game out there - which might be the P5 game - maybe Stanford, UCLA, etc.

(07-20-2023 06:38 AM)Sitting bull Wrote:  

(07-17-2023 05:47 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  I like that it seems like we're focusing on a mostly regional schedule (at least with the games announced so far), sans the random Pepperdine buy game.

Edit: I forgot we also have a tournament in Colorado.

Per the D1 Docket, our announced OOC games so far are:

@ GW
@ Navy
@ Richmond
@ Norfolk State
@ Pepperdine

vs American
vs UMBC
vs ODU

Colorado tournament (Air Force, Omaha, Lindenwood)

That's 11 games. I would guess that we'll have at least 1 home D3 game, and 1 buy game against a Power Conference foe to round out the slate, but I have 0 insider knowledge.

Actually isn’t that 10 games? I didn’t think the Air Force tournament was a full round robin - rather a bracket that would have a championship and consolation. Not certain but that’s how I took it.

If true, we should have 3 other games. I would think two would be home to include an exam period D3. Would be odd not to have one big P5 game.

It’s really not a bad looking schedule to me. A number of close teams with a good mix of mid major conferences represented.

The Pepperdine game looks strange by itself. You would think for that trip you would throw in another game out there - which might be the P5 game - maybe Stanford, UCLA, etc.

I think it's a round robin, not a bracket. This site has it listed as a non-bracket event:

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2023/...ournaments

From some quick Google searches, the scheduling rules are you can play 28 games + a 3 game MTE, or 29 games + 2 game MTE.

I guess the upside of the 3 game MTE is it's more economical - if we're already flying out to Air Force you may as well get 3 games out of it - but with a 2 game MTE you can replace a game like Omaha with a more attractive opponent.

(07-20-2023 06:38 AM)Sitting bull Wrote:  

(07-17-2023 05:47 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  I like that it seems like we're focusing on a mostly regional schedule (at least with the games announced so far), sans the random Pepperdine buy game.

Edit: I forgot we also have a tournament in Colorado.

Per the D1 Docket, our announced OOC games so far are:

@ GW
@ Navy
@ Richmond
@ Norfolk State
@ Pepperdine

vs American
vs UMBC
vs ODU

Colorado tournament (Air Force, Omaha, Lindenwood)

That's 11 games. I would guess that we'll have at least 1 home D3 game, and 1 buy game against a Power Conference foe to round out the slate, but I have 0 insider knowledge.

Actually isn’t that 10 games? I didn’t think the Air Force tournament was a full round robin - rather a bracket that would have a championship and consolation. Not certain but that’s how I took it.

If true, we should have 3 other games. I would think two would be home to include an exam period D3. Would be odd not to have one big P5 game.

It’s really not a bad looking schedule to me. A number of close teams with a good mix of mid major conferences represented.

The Pepperdine game looks strange by itself. You would think for that trip you would throw in another game out there - which might be the P5 game - maybe Stanford, UCLA, etc.

I'm gonna say Shenandoah (H), Longwood (H), Louisville (A).

It is a very strategic schedule for where the program is currently at

Twitter post stated the game at Navy is Dec. 30th. Seems like that would have to be after the start of CAA play, but who knows.....

I think to get a better home OOC schedule we need to buy games and/or take a home game in lieu of being paid for a game.

Without $$$, the program is not going anywhere.

(07-22-2023 03:40 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  Twitter post stated the game at Navy is Dec. 30th. Seems like that would have to be after the start of CAA play, but who knows.....

In years past the CAA in conference schedule has had some early December games followed by OOC games during the holidays and then back to CAA in January. If it was that way this year it wouldn't be particularly unusual.

Why are we only using 12 scholarships when the NCAA allows 13? This is not a serious program.

(07-26-2023 02:34 PM)Tribester Wrote:  Why are we only using 12 scholarships when the NCAA allows 13? This is not a serious program.

Well, since Houpt has two years of eligibilty, Milkereit is the lone scholarship that is possibly available for '24, assuming he doesn't use a Covid year. Unless there was another can't miss grad transfer for this season, makes sense to save that extra spot for '24. Having only one scholly available for '24 would be a bad spot to be in. It left maneuverability to try to coerce Brant Byers to forego his post grad year and be a late add for '23. Doubt we have any shot at Byers in '24. We have plenty of bodies for full practice and only one basketball. If Nick Evans proves worthy, it gives that option to fill in 3 scholly players in the '23 class.

In addition, it leaves some money available this season for the grad assistant position spot they recently posted.

Why would Houpt have two years left if he's already played four?

But agreed, even if it's two open spots next year, you're probably not going to burn one on someone besides a grad transfer, and if there were a grad transfer we could recruit that would crack the rotation, well...we would've done it already. And if a grad transfer won't crack the rotation, there's no point in bringing them in. We have limited time and resources--you'd rather they spent their time locking down solid 2024 targets if we can't improve. So there are real strategic reasons to keep one back; it's not uncommon. Michigan State went to the Sweet Sixteen with 10 scholarships last year (Izzo said in the instant-transfer era he can't keep 13 happy).

Now, the fact that we can't recruit an immediate improvement when we have so many question marks might indeed be lame! But I'd say the recruiting has been decent on the whole. Lots of potential came through the door; if we could *develop* anybody we might be cooking!

(07-26-2023 02:34 PM)Tribester Wrote:  Why are we only using 12 scholarships when the NCAA allows 13? This is not a serious program.

This might also point out that Dane is not under real pressure to win. If he was, and needed to win this year, he probably would've used that scholarship. This could be a sign that Dane is pretty comfortable under contract and not under much pressure THIS season.