I definitely think an FU chant is kinda trashy while a BS chant is pretty typical and no big deal. I don't know, that's just me, we'll all have our own opinions on where the line is. I also don't think it's a huge deal though that a bunch of college students went too far in one moment during a very intense and passionate night.

Back on topic though, I just thought it was weird that so many people were taking an "I'll believe it when I hear it straight from Gill" approach to something that we're hearing from Byington. I agree with Byington that we shouldn't be shying away from top 20 games, our conference's top teams could possibly pull those upsets and either way can benefit from those games.

Let's be real, Americans lack any imagination when it comes to cheering for their teams. I'm exhausted at the pro-forma "Let's go _____!" chants ringing around arenas and football fields around the country. Once you've been to a major sports event in another country, you quickly realize we have a long way to go in chanting/singing in general. We yell obscenities in the void left between Let's Go ________ and silence.

Byington should just get as many quality games for us as possible. Some of this is about revenue generation and recruiting, something the SB seems to have forgotten when suggesting this. Predicting who is going to be Top 20 NET with the parity in the game now is also quite difficult.

(04-20-2023 01:10 PM)olddawg Wrote:  The whole article was kind of depressing to those of us looking for an upgraded schedule. Sounds like the local and regional P5s have really circled the wagons in terms of scheduling us. More lines drawn in the sand by the Cartel. Maybe we have an alum who can get the ear of the Governor and put pressure on the state P5s to schedule other state schools?

Well, the VA Attorney General is a JMU alum and super close to the Governor. Doubt he'll be spending much time advocating for sports scheduling of collegiate sports though

There's another alum I know with close contact to the Gov, and was once on the JMU BOV... but I've probably said too much in this era of heated politics and division.

(04-24-2023 03:57 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 02:04 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 01:52 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Chanting F U to an opposing coach is bush league any way you cut it. Inappropriate and disappointing. No way to justify it. Now, at the officials sometimes, maybe!

I would personally be bothered much more by past bush league behavior at basketball games like --- throwing toilet paper on the court for the first basket ---- which actually harms the team via a technical foul.

I have never seen some folks so bothered by college students chanting an expletive at a coach that earned it in a single occurence.

Are all yall tender foots equally as bothered by a 'bull$hit' chant over a call by the students.......that happens often and that does not seem to bother anyone.

You view BS chants as equal to FU chants, and it seems that some of us disagree that they are the same. That doesn't make anybody harder or softer than you, it's just a different opinion.

So now you are picking which expletives/foul language bothers you and which does not......give me a freaking break.

The truth for a lot of folks is they love them some Tony Bennett and were appalled that it was directed at Saint Tony. If it had been directed at the App St, Louisiana, or ODU coach this would have been a total non-issue. But how dare these 18-22 years olds say that to Saint Tony no matter how he was showing his A$$ at the time.

I don't care so much about the expletives, but I would rather fans be more creative. Hold out your glasses while telling the ref, "Here... I think you need these more than me," or tell him to "bend over and use his good eye." When a coach strays outside the coaching box, yell "What's in the box, Tony? What's in the box?" It's too simplistic to simply curse.

Mark Warner intervened on behalf of Va. Tech joining the ACC when he was governor, but the scheduling issue is really minor in comparison. One was a once in a generation chance to join a top tier league, and scheduling is mostly just an aggravation.

That said, it’s not unreasonable to expect the state DI schools to play each other. ADs could be leaned on. It’s a travel savings if nothing else. The right people have to care or feel pressured to care.

I'll also disagree that people had hurt feelings for Saint Tony. I believe JMU would have drawn the line regardless of who was the recipient of FU chants.

(04-26-2023 07:35 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  I'll also disagree that people had hurt feelings for Saint Tony. I believe JMU would have drawn the line regardless of who was the recipient of FU chants.

I believe they would have as well. The fact that it was such a big game and that chant was so LOUD it's really hard to turn a blind eye.
The fact that it was Tony didn't help things, but I definitely don't see it as the reason the change was done.
Case in point: look at literally anything that the admin put the squash on.
The peanut cheer. They didn't end it because the chant was said at a specific game at a specific team. It was the fact that the chant was being spoken clear as day and you absolutely couldn't ignore or misinterpret what was being said.
Going back even farther... In the mid 90's the pep band used to play the Looney Tunes theme at the beginning of the game for the opposing team. Did it go away because a big name coach that everyone had a love for had his/her feelings hurt? NO. The just got rid of it and we weren't allowed to play it anymore.

dah DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA---daaa-daaa

HEEEEEEY! YOUUU SUUCK!

fond memories of 2005

Surprised Commisioner Gill or one of his beards couldn't come on here to clear this up.

(04-20-2023 04:38 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(04-20-2023 03:42 PM)orange-to-purple Wrote:  How can a conference do that, beyond a "suggestion"? I mean, seriously, people.

Besides the conferences loading up and making their conference schedules 9 games instead of 8, leaving only 3 OOC games making it harder to get a game, they certainly have a say in how their members formulate their schedules.

https://www.theday.com/sports/20220814/g...alignment/

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bulls/20...ing-model/

Quote:The ACC has asked its schools to schedule “most, if not all, of their future nonconference road games at either Power Five teams or Army,”

Big Ten may be reversing course on their mandates. The forced P5 games are probably 1-for-1s so they miss out on a home game, but if they schedule the buy games they always home games without being forced to go back on the road.

Quote: Since 2016, the Big Ten began “requiring” league members to play at least one nonconference Power 5 opponent annually. However, Big Ten schools could ask the league office for exemptions for other programs not in a Power 5 league to count as its requirement.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/big-...ttMcMurphy

(05-12-2023 08:56 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Big Ten may be reversing course on their mandates. The forced P5 games are probably 1-for-1s so they miss out on a home game, but if they schedule the buy games they always home games without being forced to go back on the road.

Quote: Since 2016, the Big Ten began “requiring” league members to play at least one nonconference Power 5 opponent annually. However, Big Ten schools could ask the league office for exemptions for other programs not in a Power 5 league to count as its requirement.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/big-...ttMcMurphy

Big Ten is said to be reversing course in part due to Michigan's results last year. Michigan had no P5 games OOC, and played 3 relatively weak G5 at home. That got them into the CFP.

It looks like there may be a trend going forward for some of the power conferences to schedule "cupcakes" at home OOC. Long term it depends on how the CFP committee selects teams, as everyone is trying to optimize for that to maximize their bids.