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(05-02-2023 09:41 AM)cincy7718 Wrote:  Record is going to come down to OLine. The only position fick never recruited successfully. The number of projects and long shots he took to compensate was wild to watch. We had a hockey player, a german, multiple FCS transfers, walk ons, the kid from the little kentucky christian school, even his own son, etc trying to find any way to compensate.

I was honestly shocked how bad last years oline was. I really dont know what to expect out of this years group, but i would guess at or near the bottom of the Big12.

it seemed like the '22 coach, Gino's guy, had a worse time than Ron Crook. Coaching? who knows. Hopefully, this year's new guy will have a better time of it

With Ben Bryant to Northwestern, I think it’s all but a lock for Emory Jones to start

Yep, and I think we'll be missing Ben sooner rather than later.

(05-03-2023 01:59 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  Yep, and I think we'll be missing Ben sooner rather than later.

Yeah, I think he will do very well for himself back home...and I'm not sold on EJ at all. If he doesn't remain healthy...well...we saw what the next in line had...

(05-03-2023 03:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 01:59 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  Yep, and I think we'll be missing Ben sooner rather than later.

Yeah, I think he will do very well for himself back home...and I'm not sold on EJ at all. If he doesn't remain healthy...well...we saw what the next in line had...

It seems that this years next in line might be someone different than last years next in line.

(05-03-2023 03:29 PM)namrag Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 03:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 01:59 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  Yep, and I think we'll be missing Ben sooner rather than later.

Yeah, I think he will do very well for himself back home...and I'm not sold on EJ at all. If he doesn't remain healthy...well...we saw what the next in line had...

It seems that this years next in line might be someone different than last years next in line.

Agree. For some reason I think we will see Drogosh sooner than later.

I'm sure everyone's hope is what EJ lacks in passing, he makes up for in running.

Again, with Malik Cunningham as the template...

Jones, Bryant, Drogosh and Prater...

Who doesn't fit in?

Jones is a place holder under Drogosh is ready to go. I'm sure Satterfield is telling him to just not lose the game. I doubt he'll be passing much.

(05-03-2023 05:23 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Again, with Malik Cunningham as the template...

Jones, Bryant, Drogosh and Prater...

Who doesn't fit in?

Jones is a place holder under Drogosh is ready to go. I'm sure Satterfield is telling him to just not lose the game. I doubt he'll be passing much.

I don't understand the negative opinions on Emory Jones passing ability. In better competition over the past two year he had roughly the same completion % as Ben Bryant. And his ASU team was terrible last year where-as Ben was playing with 2 NFL caliber WR's and an NFL caliber TE. I've watched some film on him and he has good mechanics and good velocity on his throws. His decision making is probably the weakness as evidenced by his poor TD:INT ratio. And his dual-threat ability is very exciting.

(05-08-2023 03:03 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 05:23 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Again, with Malik Cunningham as the template...

Jones, Bryant, Drogosh and Prater...

Who doesn't fit in?

Jones is a place holder under Drogosh is ready to go. I'm sure Satterfield is telling him to just not lose the game. I doubt he'll be passing much.

I don't understand the negative opinions on Emory Jones passing ability. In better competition over the past two year he had roughly the same completion % as Ben Bryant. And his ASU team was terrible last year where-as Ben was playing with 2 NFL caliber WR's and an NFL caliber TE. I've watched some film on him and he has good mechanics and good velocity on his throws. His decision making is probably the weakness as evidenced by his poor TD:INT ratio. And his dual-threat ability is very exciting.

Dude, you better watch yourself.

Them's fightin' words here on Bryant Banter.

Before long one of the Bryant parrots is going to use the now fashionable Bryant Banter phrase that you're going to "die on that hill" by taking a position for a QB other than Ben Elway.

I think EJ is going to do really well in this offense if given time by the OL. He reminds me a lot of the type of player, albeit more naturally talented, than Armanti Edwards, who was a terror for App State in this same offense for Satt.

He is slightly erratic with his decision making, but the dude has a great arm and solid deep ball accuracy. I don't know how much I would take the Sun Devil situation into account...that was a nuclear testing site this year.

I've seen some rumors that Evan Prater has moved to WR. Can anyone confirm?

(06-15-2023 09:42 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  I'm saw some rumors that Evan Prater has moved to WR. Can anyone confirm?

Due to injury. He’s been with WR group for summer workouts. I’d guess he will fight Drogosh/Brady and maybe another transfer next spring/summer for QB 1.

If he is still with the WRs at Camp Higher Ground it will be a bit more telling. If he is still with WRs game 1 then who knows.

(05-08-2023 03:03 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 05:23 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Again, with Malik Cunningham as the template...

Jones, Bryant, Drogosh and Prater...

Who doesn't fit in?

Jones is a place holder under Drogosh is ready to go. I'm sure Satterfield is telling him to just not lose the game. I doubt he'll be passing much.

I don't understand the negative opinions on Emory Jones passing ability. In better competition over the past two year he had roughly the same completion % as Ben Bryant. And his ASU team was terrible last year where-as Ben was playing with 2 NFL caliber WR's and an NFL caliber TE. I've watched some film on him and he has good mechanics and good velocity on his throws. His decision making is probably the weakness as evidenced by his poor TD:INT ratio. And his dual-threat ability is very exciting.

Agree. He has all the physical tools to throw. Picking up the Florida WR was huge. I think our WR room is solid with all the pickups but nothing crazy. Hoping Chamon Matayer can get healthy at TE and there will be plenty of options to throw to.

(06-15-2023 11:14 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(06-15-2023 09:42 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  I'm saw some rumors that Evan Prater has moved to WR. Can anyone confirm?

Due to injury. He’s been with WR group for summer workouts. I’d guess he will fight Drogosh/Brady and maybe another transfer next spring/summer for QB 1.

If he is still with the WRs at Camp Higher Ground it will be a bit more telling. If he is still with WRs game 1 then who knows.

I need to proofread my posts more thoroughly. It looks like I had a stroke in the middle of typing this one up, ha. Anyways, thanks for the insight.

(05-08-2023 03:27 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(05-08-2023 03:03 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 05:23 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Again, with Malik Cunningham as the template...

Jones, Bryant, Drogosh and Prater...

Who doesn't fit in?

Jones is a place holder under Drogosh is ready to go. I'm sure Satterfield is telling him to just not lose the game. I doubt he'll be passing much.

I don't understand the negative opinions on Emory Jones passing ability. In better competition over the past two year he had roughly the same completion % as Ben Bryant. And his ASU team was terrible last year where-as Ben was playing with 2 NFL caliber WR's and an NFL caliber TE. I've watched some film on him and he has good mechanics and good velocity on his throws. His decision making is probably the weakness as evidenced by his poor TD:INT ratio. And his dual-threat ability is very exciting.

Dude, you better watch yourself.

Them's fightin' words here on Bryant Banter.

Before long one of the Bryant parrots is going to use the now fashionable Bryant Banter phrase that you're going to "die on that hill" by taking a position for a QB other than Ben Elway.

You might have a new favorite WR now.

Career Stats

Jones
45 games [Florida, Arizona St]
404 completions
631 attempts
64.0 completion percentage
4,880 yards
33 TD
18 INT
1,304 rushing yards
14 rushing TD

Bryant
35 games [Cincinnati, E. Michigan]
538 completions
829 attempts
64.9 completion percentage
6,406 yards
37 TD
17 INT
-65 rushing yards
4 rushing TD

Prater
15 games
40 completions
77 attempts
51.9 completion percentage
461 yards
3 TD
2 INT
275 rushing yards
3 TD

Everybody has potential. What counts is when you're talented enough and can be coached up you earn playing time. There's those in the mold of a starter and those in the mold of a backup. It's really that simple.

(06-15-2023 02:37 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(05-08-2023 03:27 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(05-08-2023 03:03 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(05-03-2023 05:23 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Again, with Malik Cunningham as the template...

Jones, Bryant, Drogosh and Prater...

Who doesn't fit in?

Jones is a place holder under Drogosh is ready to go. I'm sure Satterfield is telling him to just not lose the game. I doubt he'll be passing much.

I don't understand the negative opinions on Emory Jones passing ability. In better competition over the past two year he had roughly the same completion % as Ben Bryant. And his ASU team was terrible last year where-as Ben was playing with 2 NFL caliber WR's and an NFL caliber TE. I've watched some film on him and he has good mechanics and good velocity on his throws. His decision making is probably the weakness as evidenced by his poor TD:INT ratio. And his dual-threat ability is very exciting.

Dude, you better watch yourself.

Them's fightin' words here on Bryant Banter.

Before long one of the Bryant parrots is going to use the now fashionable Bryant Banter phrase that you're going to "die on that hill" by taking a position for a QB other than Ben Elway.

You might have a new favorite WR now.

Not that you ever comprehend anything I say, but I'll try again.

First, I never said Prater was a great QB. Since he was in fact our 2nd string QB, I said to put him in to try and loosen up the defense when Peyton Bryant was having one of his moments. You know, like going five straight three and outs or going scoreless for half the game or having to kick five FG's because there was no room to pass in the red zone and he was ZERO threat to run. You know, stuff like that.

That said, if they are in fact moving Prater to another position, wonderful! That means that they are actually doing some coaching and don't feel that they need him at QB.

If he runs routes and can catch, that's great. I thought he'd be a better RB though. He's a great runner.

(06-16-2023 07:54 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Not that you ever comprehend anything I say, but I'll try again.

First, I never said Prater was a great QB. Since he was in fact our 2nd string QB, I said to put him in to try and loosen up the defense when Peyton Bryant was having one of his moments. You know, like going five straight three and outs or going scoreless for half the game or having to kick five FG's because there was no room to pass in the red zone and he was ZERO threat to run. You know, stuff like that.

That said, if they are in fact moving Prater to another position, wonderful! That means that they are actually doing some coaching and don't feel that they need him at QB.

If he runs routes and can catch, that's great. I thought he'd be a better RB though. He's a great runner.

Prater isn't sized right for an RB. At 6'4" 210lbs he is perfect size for a receiver when that is matched with speed. Compare that to Montgomery who has a low center of gravity at 5'11" and all muscle at 200lbs.

(06-16-2023 01:21 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 07:54 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Not that you ever comprehend anything I say, but I'll try again.

First, I never said Prater was a great QB. Since he was in fact our 2nd string QB, I said to put him in to try and loosen up the defense when Peyton Bryant was having one of his moments. You know, like going five straight three and outs or going scoreless for half the game or having to kick five FG's because there was no room to pass in the red zone and he was ZERO threat to run. You know, stuff like that.

That said, if they are in fact moving Prater to another position, wonderful! That means that they are actually doing some coaching and don't feel that they need him at QB.

If he runs routes and can catch, that's great. I thought he'd be a better RB though. He's a great runner.

Prater isn't sized right for an RB. At 6'4" 210lbs he is perfect size for a receiver when that is matched with speed. Compare that to Montgomery who has a low center of gravity at 5'11" and all muscle at 200lbs.

I agree that he looks like a WR but I don't see what his size would matter if he was a RB. If they can't tackle him then that's all that matters.

Prater would be a good RB as soon as he hits the open field. The hard part at the RB position is getting to the open field. That's what the lower center of gravity types are good for, pushing their way when the hole is small or nonexistent.

WRs get a better shot at open field running.