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(04-23-2023 11:55 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(04-22-2023 08:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What I said would happen with whomever hired him. Big influx of talent, booster support and lESPN seemingly having a sub-office on campus.

I mean, if you like that kind of thing...

It was way more than that. ESPN had an article on it. I think last year there were 2000 people at their Spring game. This year 45,000. And it was cold and snowy. They had Prime Time mic’d up. Just a crazy atmosphere. I really am surprised that many people would show up. Would our Spring game get 40K with Deion??

Thinking about it more, I guess part of the crowd was due to knowing ESPN was featuring them or whatever. But still, maybe they would have featured us. Sounds like he wasn’t coming here, but it would have been nice.

(04-23-2023 12:21 PM)ZCat Wrote:  

(04-23-2023 11:55 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(04-22-2023 08:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What I said would happen with whomever hired him. Big influx of talent, booster support and lESPN seemingly having a sub-office on campus.

I mean, if you like that kind of thing...

It was way more than that. ESPN had an article on it. I think last year there were 2000 people at their Spring game. This year 45,000. And it was cold and snowy. They had Prime Time mic’d up. Just a crazy atmosphere. I really am surprised that many people would show up. Would our Spring game get 40K with Deion??

Thinking about it more, I guess part of the crowd was due to knowing ESPN was featuring them or whatever. But still, maybe they would have featured us. Sounds like he wasn’t coming here, but it would have been nice.

My impression is that he was never a particularly serious candidate but that was more due to a lack of interest on our end rather than from Prime's end.

(04-23-2023 11:55 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(04-22-2023 08:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What I said would happen with whomever hired him. Big influx of talent, booster support and lESPN seemingly having a sub-office on campus.

I mean, if you like that kind of thing...

It was way more than that. ESPN had an article on it. I think last year there were 2000 people at their Spring game. This year 45,000. And it was cold and snowy. They had Prime Time mic’d up. Just a crazy atmosphere. I really am surprised that many people would show up. Would our Spring game get 40K with Deion??

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Wh...208898722/

I think Colorado is going to be pretty awful this year. I guess we'll see. Of course they were awful last year too, so it's not a big deal if they are. But they lost 46 players to the portal. Prime has killed it with the Portal guys he's brought in and has recruited well. He could very well succeed down the line. I just don't see that kind of turnover, and inexperience working in year 1.

For Colorado he was a great risk. He's doing things completely differently. Blowing things up in a way we've never seen before. Given Colorado's track record in recent decades it makes sense.

I'm still happy UC went a different way. UC has shown an ability to win at a high level through multiple coaches, in multiple conferences, without blowing everything up. I don't think UC needed the high variance hire that is Coach Prime. Colorado is Coach Prime. For me, UC as a program is bigger than any coach...and I prefer that.

(04-25-2023 12:50 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(04-23-2023 11:55 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(04-22-2023 08:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What I said would happen with whomever hired him. Big influx of talent, booster support and lESPN seemingly having a sub-office on campus.

I mean, if you like that kind of thing...

It was way more than that. ESPN had an article on it. I think last year there were 2000 people at their Spring game. This year 45,000. And it was cold and snowy. They had Prime Time mic’d up. Just a crazy atmosphere. I really am surprised that many people would show up. Would our Spring game get 40K with Deion??

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Wh...208898722/

I think Colorado is going to be pretty awful this year. I guess we'll see. Of course they were awful last year too, so it's not a big deal if they are. But they lost 46 players to the portal. Prime has killed it with the Portal guys he's brought in and has recruited well. He could very well succeed down the line. I just don't see that kind of turnover, and inexperience working in year 1.

For Colorado he was a great risk. He's doing things completely differently. Blowing things up in a way we've never seen before. Given Colorado's track record in recent decades it makes sense.

I'm still happy UC went a different way. UC has shown an ability to win at a high level through multiple coaches, in multiple conferences, without blowing everything up. I don't think UC needed the high variance hire that is Coach Prime. Colorado is Coach Prime. For me, UC as a program is bigger than any coach...and I prefer that.

Blowing everything up like he is doing for a school that has been terrible for 20 years like Colorado, but that was not necessary at UC.

If we would have made the hire, it would have created a toxic situation within the fan base. There would be folks that think he walks on water and another group that would be hyper-critical. Both sides would get angry with one another. We don't need that drama for the reasons you spelled out.

Colorado may achieve the unthinkable and be even worse than last season.

(04-25-2023 01:27 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 12:50 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(04-23-2023 11:55 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(04-22-2023 08:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What I said would happen with whomever hired him. Big influx of talent, booster support and lESPN seemingly having a sub-office on campus.

I mean, if you like that kind of thing...

It was way more than that. ESPN had an article on it. I think last year there were 2000 people at their Spring game. This year 45,000. And it was cold and snowy. They had Prime Time mic’d up. Just a crazy atmosphere. I really am surprised that many people would show up. Would our Spring game get 40K with Deion??

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Wh...208898722/

I think Colorado is going to be pretty awful this year. I guess we'll see. Of course they were awful last year too, so it's not a big deal if they are. But they lost 46 players to the portal. Prime has killed it with the Portal guys he's brought in and has recruited well. He could very well succeed down the line. I just don't see that kind of turnover, and inexperience working in year 1.

For Colorado he was a great risk. He's doing things completely differently. Blowing things up in a way we've never seen before. Given Colorado's track record in recent decades it makes sense.

I'm still happy UC went a different way. UC has shown an ability to win at a high level through multiple coaches, in multiple conferences, without blowing everything up. I don't think UC needed the high variance hire that is Coach Prime. Colorado is Coach Prime. For me, UC as a program is bigger than any coach...and I prefer that.

Blowing everything up like he is doing for a school that has been terrible for 20 years like Colorado, but that was not necessary at UC.

If we would have made the hire, it would have created a toxic situation within the fan base. There would be folks that think he walks on water and another group that would be hyper-critical. Both sides would get angry with one another. We don't need that drama for the reasons you spelled out.

When we win only 5-6 games next year...that will cause a toxic situation all its own.

(04-25-2023 08:42 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 01:27 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 12:50 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(04-23-2023 11:55 AM)ZCat Wrote:  

(04-22-2023 08:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What I said would happen with whomever hired him. Big influx of talent, booster support and lESPN seemingly having a sub-office on campus.

I mean, if you like that kind of thing...

It was way more than that. ESPN had an article on it. I think last year there were 2000 people at their Spring game. This year 45,000. And it was cold and snowy. They had Prime Time mic’d up. Just a crazy atmosphere. I really am surprised that many people would show up. Would our Spring game get 40K with Deion??

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Wh...208898722/

I think Colorado is going to be pretty awful this year. I guess we'll see. Of course they were awful last year too, so it's not a big deal if they are. But they lost 46 players to the portal. Prime has killed it with the Portal guys he's brought in and has recruited well. He could very well succeed down the line. I just don't see that kind of turnover, and inexperience working in year 1.

For Colorado he was a great risk. He's doing things completely differently. Blowing things up in a way we've never seen before. Given Colorado's track record in recent decades it makes sense.

I'm still happy UC went a different way. UC has shown an ability to win at a high level through multiple coaches, in multiple conferences, without blowing everything up. I don't think UC needed the high variance hire that is Coach Prime. Colorado is Coach Prime. For me, UC as a program is bigger than any coach...and I prefer that.

Blowing everything up like he is doing for a school that has been terrible for 20 years like Colorado, but that was not necessary at UC.

If we would have made the hire, it would have created a toxic situation within the fan base. There would be folks that think he walks on water and another group that would be hyper-critical. Both sides would get angry with one another. We don't need that drama for the reasons you spelled out.

When we win only 5-6 games next year...that will cause a toxic situation all its own.

I think a large majority of fans realize that we are likely to be well under .500 in both revenue sports next year. The toxicity will come if there is no improvement in the second or third years.

(04-22-2023 08:08 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What I said would happen with whomever hired him. Big influx of talent, booster support and lESPN seemingly having a sub-office on campus.

I mean, if you like that kind of thing...

LOL real Nostradamus stuff here . . .

The Rath bot's entire script is predicting everything will suck, telling people who don't think we will suck that they're naive morons, and then proceeding to spam every other thread with his angst. If Deion came in and flipped our program like Colorado it would divest all our success of the past 20 years into a single, highly volatile celebrity that's pretty clearly boom or bust. It's much more enjoyable to have a boring offseason with a solid transfer class, wait to see how it plays out, and watch Colorado's experiment from afar.

(04-25-2023 10:29 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 08:42 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 01:27 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 12:50 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(04-23-2023 11:55 AM)ZCat Wrote:  It was way more than that. ESPN had an article on it. I think last year there were 2000 people at their Spring game. This year 45,000. And it was cold and snowy. They had Prime Time mic’d up. Just a crazy atmosphere. I really am surprised that many people would show up. Would our Spring game get 40K with Deion??

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Wh...208898722/

I think Colorado is going to be pretty awful this year. I guess we'll see. Of course they were awful last year too, so it's not a big deal if they are. But they lost 46 players to the portal. Prime has killed it with the Portal guys he's brought in and has recruited well. He could very well succeed down the line. I just don't see that kind of turnover, and inexperience working in year 1.

For Colorado he was a great risk. He's doing things completely differently. Blowing things up in a way we've never seen before. Given Colorado's track record in recent decades it makes sense.

I'm still happy UC went a different way. UC has shown an ability to win at a high level through multiple coaches, in multiple conferences, without blowing everything up. I don't think UC needed the high variance hire that is Coach Prime. Colorado is Coach Prime. For me, UC as a program is bigger than any coach...and I prefer that.

Blowing everything up like he is doing for a school that has been terrible for 20 years like Colorado, but that was not necessary at UC.

If we would have made the hire, it would have created a toxic situation within the fan base. There would be folks that think he walks on water and another group that would be hyper-critical. Both sides would get angry with one another. We don't need that drama for the reasons you spelled out.

When we win only 5-6 games next year...that will cause a toxic situation all its own.

I think a large majority of fans realize that we are likely to be well under .500 in both revenue sports next year. The toxicity will come if there is no improvement in the second or third years.

What exactly is "well under .500" for football? To me, I wholeheartedly believe we have the talent to bow eligible. I figure 6-6 with a ****** bowl appearance is kind of the rational expectation for this season.

(04-25-2023 10:29 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  I think a large majority of fans realize that we are likely to be well under .500 in both revenue sports next year. The toxicity will come if there is no improvement in the second or third years.

I expect to be somewhere between 6-6 and 8-4 in football this season.

I expect to be above .500 in basketball this season...how far above will depend on the nonconference schedule.

(04-26-2023 03:01 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 10:29 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  I think a large majority of fans realize that we are likely to be well under .500 in both revenue sports next year. The toxicity will come if there is no improvement in the second or third years.

I expect to be somewhere between 6-6 and 8-4 in football this season.

I expect to be above .500 in basketball this season...how far above will depend on the nonconference schedule.

Sorry, I meant well under 500 in-conference. The overall record will be better unless there is a total meltdown.

(04-26-2023 09:33 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(04-26-2023 03:01 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 10:29 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  I think a large majority of fans realize that we are likely to be well under .500 in both revenue sports next year. The toxicity will come if there is no improvement in the second or third years.

I expect to be somewhere between 6-6 and 8-4 in football this season.

I expect to be above .500 in basketball this season...how far above will depend on the nonconference schedule.

Sorry, I meant well under 500 in-conference. The overall record will be better unless there is a total meltdown.

I think FB has a better shot at .500 in-conference than BB does....

If it was roulette, I'd pick green...neither will be .500 in conference next year.

(04-27-2023 09:12 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  If it was roulette, I'd pick green...neither will be .500 in conference next year.

Football is a real question mark next year…anywhere between 4-8 to 8-4 is possible.

Basketball…woof. I’d say 12-14 wins.

We all knew why Fickell was interviewing weeks before the season ended…he didn’t want to be mediocre in his 1st year in the Big 12..

(04-26-2023 10:37 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  The Rath bot's entire script is predicting everything will suck, telling people who don't think we will suck that they're naive morons, and then proceeding to spam every other thread with his angst. If Deion came in and flipped our program like Colorado it would divest all our success of the past 20 years into a single, highly volatile celebrity that's pretty clearly boom or bust. It's much more enjoyable to have a boring offseason with a solid transfer class, wait to see how it plays out, and watch Colorado's experiment from afar.

Your parents did a fantastically rotten job if you pout and get your hackles up this easily on the interwebs, Doogie..

(04-25-2023 02:37 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Colorado may achieve the unthinkable and be even worse than last season.

interesting strategy by coach prime:

(04-26-2023 03:01 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 10:29 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  I think a large majority of fans realize that we are likely to be well under .500 in both revenue sports next year. The toxicity will come if there is no improvement in the second or third years.

I expect to be somewhere between 6-6 and 8-4 in football this season.

I expect to be above .500 in basketball this season...how far above will depend on the nonconference schedule.

I’d be thrilled with 6-6. It’s a transition year. I expect 4-8.

OK, I'll go ahead and say it.

I think we'll be as good if not better next year performance wise than this year. What that translates to record wise, I can't say. But I think having a coaching staff that has coaching notes and not U of Wisconsin brochures in their back pockets will make a huge difference.

Games are won and lost in the trenches. Our D line will make up for a lot of back seven deficiencies. And if you have a good D, you're always in the game.

And if some of you can be truly honest, you'd have to admit that our offense SUCKED last season. If these guys get in there and get the Malik Cunningham offense going with Jones, Drogosh and yes, Prater we can at least hang in there.

And I don't think B12 is as big a step up from the AAC as everyone is making it. Tulane beat B12 champ Kansas State on the road. TCU is going to be lesser than what they were. Oklahoma's QB is UCF's leftovers.

SO WHAT ARE YOU ALL SO WORRIED ABOUT?