Texas State, Memphis, Louisiana (just to watch lsu fans cry some more), and Tulane to appease the privates.

If PAC and ACC stay together I’m for no further additions but if it’s a must then I only see two that are even reasonable:

1) Memphis
2) SDSU

(05-05-2023 08:59 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(05-05-2023 06:10 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  I'm more interested in Gonzaga than UConn. The Huskies are exactly where they should be, in a basketball-only Big East with schools they have more in common with. They don't want to be in a conference with football in it, or else they would've done SOMETHING, ANYTHING to keep their football program from becoming the dumpster fire it is now. Gonzaga, I would think, would be more enthusiastic about joining a higher-earning conference that gets more national attention regardless of football. Keep UConn where they are. Zags to the Big XII!

At UC we have a distaste for Non-FB members from our BE days. To me nothing says small time more than Non-FB members.

FB drive the bus. UCF was invited to join because of FB, as their BB sucks. Pretty much the same for BYU although their BB is much better than UCF's BB. UH and UC a good at both.

Gonzaga played FB up until WWII and they never restarted. Let them start FB and work their way up.

No one believes that UC men's basketball is on the same level as UH right now. Congratulations for playing Utah Valley tough, I guess. I'm not saying UCF was great in hoops this season, but I don't think you have much more to puff your chest about right now than we do.

The Big XII isn't the Big East. I think the conference would be fine having one non-football member that has been a national contender in men's hoops for several years now. Seems to me that would make an already strong hoops conference even stronger, and we would have that without having to carry a deadweight football program like UConn's.

(05-23-2023 08:48 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(05-05-2023 08:59 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(05-05-2023 06:10 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  I'm more interested in Gonzaga than UConn. The Huskies are exactly where they should be, in a basketball-only Big East with schools they have more in common with. They don't want to be in a conference with football in it, or else they would've done SOMETHING, ANYTHING to keep their football program from becoming the dumpster fire it is now. Gonzaga, I would think, would be more enthusiastic about joining a higher-earning conference that gets more national attention regardless of football. Keep UConn where they are. Zags to the Big XII!

At UC we have a distaste for Non-FB members from our BE days. To me nothing says small time more than Non-FB members.

FB drive the bus. UCF was invited to join because of FB, as their BB sucks. Pretty much the same for BYU although their BB is much better than UCF's BB. UH and UC a good at both.

Gonzaga played FB up until WWII and they never restarted. Let them start FB and work their way up.

No one believes that UC men's basketball is on the same level as UH right now. Congratulations for playing Utah Valley tough, I guess. I'm not saying UCF was great in hoops this season, but I don't think you have much more to puff your chest about right now than we do.

The Big XII isn't the Big East. I think the conference would be fine having one non-football member that has been a national contender in men's hoops for several years now. Seems to me that would make an already strong hoops conference even stronger, and we would have that without having to carry a deadweight football program like UConn's.

But, but, but...I'd like to believe.

(05-05-2023 08:59 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(05-05-2023 06:10 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  I'm more interested in Gonzaga than UConn. The Huskies are exactly where they should be, in a basketball-only Big East with schools they have more in common with. They don't want to be in a conference with football in it, or else they would've done SOMETHING, ANYTHING to keep their football program from becoming the dumpster fire it is now. Gonzaga, I would think, would be more enthusiastic about joining a higher-earning conference that gets more national attention regardless of football. Keep UConn where they are. Zags to the Big XII!

At UC we have a distaste for Non-FB members from our BE days. To me nothing says small time more than Non-FB members.

FB drive the bus. UCF was invited to join because of FB, as their BB sucks. Pretty much the same for BYU although their BB is much better than UCF's BB. UH and UC a good at both.

Gonzaga played FB up until WWII and they never restarted. Let them start FB and work their way up.

I hate the thought of basketball only schools as well. I don’t like the thought of Gonzaga or Villanova joining at all. Don’t want and we don’t need.

(04-24-2023 09:53 AM)CYOWA Wrote:  

(04-19-2023 01:22 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-19-2023 09:45 AM)CYOWA Wrote:  

(04-19-2023 09:02 AM)doss2 Wrote:  If I understand correctly if the B12 adds P5's the income increases ratable, but adding G5's gets no added income. If this is true no one in their right mind would add G5's!

If only Colorado & Arizona defect from the Pac to the Big 12, maybe you can add UNLV & Memphis as basketball-only schools until the next contract is negotiated. These divisions would make a lot of sense:

Cincinnati
Memphis
UCF
West Virginia

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Baylor
Houston
TCU
Texas Tech

Arizona
BYU
Colorado
UNLV

Skip adding UNLV and Memphis and:

Mid-East: UC UCF WVU ISU KSU KS OKS
West: BU UH TCU TTU AZ BYU CO

I'd organize a 14 member league this way:

Cincinnati
Houston
UCF
West Virginia

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Baylor
TCU
Texas Tech

Arizona
BYU
Colorado

The 3-member divisions play 2 games verses every other division and rotate. The 4-member leagues play two from the other 4-member league and 3 of the 3-member leagues and rotate. This ends up being an 8 game conference schedule. Everybody visits everybody within 4 years.

I'm an ISU fan too but the problem with your setup is we get paid on the number of eyeballs watching games. I get the romantic feel for the core Big 8 members BUT the league needs to have Houston which is a huge city in a huge state playing all the other Texas schools EVERY year and developing those rivalries.

In your scenario its simple to slide UH into the other 3 Texas schools and the eastern wing is a group of 3.

(04-16-2023 05:27 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-15-2023 11:22 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(04-14-2023 10:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-13-2023 01:13 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  If FSU and Clemson force their way out of the ACC. That could cause a mass exodus with Miami, UNC, NC State, UVA, and Duke begging for B1G/SEC invites.

I'd be interested in approaching Louisville, Pitt, Georgia Tech, and Syracuse.

Syracuse could be an interesting choice strengthening the basketball side with perhaps UConn as well (New York market).

UConn left the American because they made the argument that they're not interested in doing anything more with the football program. Also, they felt at a disadvantage in men's basketball recruiting because they didn't have as much in common (geography played into this, to some extent) with schools in the American as with schools in the Big East. Having considerably more revenue than the American, maybe the Big XII could sway the Huskies away from the Big East, but the elephant in the room is their apparent lack of interest in having a competitive football program. Unless that changes, I wouldn't recommend UConn for ANY conference that takes football seriously. UConn football couldn't help any FBS conference at this point, Power 5 or Group of 5.

Look... I am NOT a uConn fan, but they left the American BECAUSE they made the argument that their fans couldn't get excited playing the likes of Tulsa, ECU, Wichita State, and Tulane.

And they were absolutely correct.

I'm glad UCONN is out of the AAC because their football team was bringing down the conference RPI. Worked out for both them and the AAC.

(05-24-2023 12:03 PM)Johnny Incognito Wrote:  

(05-05-2023 08:59 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(05-05-2023 06:10 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  I'm more interested in Gonzaga than UConn. The Huskies are exactly where they should be, in a basketball-only Big East with schools they have more in common with. They don't want to be in a conference with football in it, or else they would've done SOMETHING, ANYTHING to keep their football program from becoming the dumpster fire it is now. Gonzaga, I would think, would be more enthusiastic about joining a higher-earning conference that gets more national attention regardless of football. Keep UConn where they are. Zags to the Big XII!

At UC we have a distaste for Non-FB members from our BE days. To me nothing says small time more than Non-FB members.

FB drive the bus. UCF was invited to join because of FB, as their BB sucks. Pretty much the same for BYU although their BB is much better than UCF's BB. UH and UC a good at both.

Gonzaga played FB up until WWII and they never restarted. Let them start FB and work their way up.

I hate the thought of basketball only schools as well. I don’t like the thought of Gonzaga or Villanova joining at all. Don’t want and we don’t need.

Question: Why do you guys keep bringing up other school names? It doesn't have to be Gonzaga and Villanova. It doesn't have to be Gonzaga and UConn. JUST Gonzaga! That's all I'm asking for! :-)

(05-24-2023 09:47 AM)colohank Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 08:48 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  

(05-05-2023 08:59 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(05-05-2023 06:10 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  I'm more interested in Gonzaga than UConn. The Huskies are exactly where they should be, in a basketball-only Big East with schools they have more in common with. They don't want to be in a conference with football in it, or else they would've done SOMETHING, ANYTHING to keep their football program from becoming the dumpster fire it is now. Gonzaga, I would think, would be more enthusiastic about joining a higher-earning conference that gets more national attention regardless of football. Keep UConn where they are. Zags to the Big XII!

At UC we have a distaste for Non-FB members from our BE days. To me nothing says small time more than Non-FB members.

FB drive the bus. UCF was invited to join because of FB, as their BB sucks. Pretty much the same for BYU although their BB is much better than UCF's BB. UH and UC a good at both.

Gonzaga played FB up until WWII and they never restarted. Let them start FB and work their way up.

No one believes that UC men's basketball is on the same level as UH right now. Congratulations for playing Utah Valley tough, I guess. I'm not saying UCF was great in hoops this season, but I don't think you have much more to puff your chest about right now than we do.

The Big XII isn't the Big East. I think the conference would be fine having one non-football member that has been a national contender in men's hoops for several years now. Seems to me that would make an already strong hoops conference even stronger, and we would have that without having to carry a deadweight football program like UConn's.

But, but, but...I'd like to believe.