(04-05-2023 12:19 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 11:41 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  Arizona State University and the University of Arizona are governed by the same Board of Regents (along with the Northern Arizona University).

https://www.azregents.edu/

Ahh, just like UGA & GT, as well as UNC & NC State.

I think this could be different from Oklahoma & Oklahoma State or even Alabama & Auburn. It depends on whether or not Arizona State is willing to let Arizona leave or not. If Arizona leaving hurts ASU, no deal. However, if neither is harmed, the regents could let it go through.

Or regents could decide both hurt if both stay and only one hurt if AZ leaves.

(04-04-2023 08:22 PM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  The AZ AD’s comment about linear TV was a threat. They will leave the conference and “drive to Lubbock “ if the deal is heavy streaming. That does not help the PAC’s negotiations with the CW or ION. The linear tv people know they can pay less to get pac content than the streamers have to bid. Not to mention the streamers don’t actually need the content. Apple and Amazons bottom line will hardly notice if they get or don’t get PAC football

Lol yes Arizona is threatening to drive 9 1/2 hours and 640 miles to Lubbock. I’m sure that’s the master plan.

(04-05-2023 07:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 08:22 PM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  The AZ AD’s comment about linear TV was a threat. They will leave the conference and “drive to Lubbock “ if the deal is heavy streaming. That does not help the PAC’s negotiations with the CW or ION. The linear tv people know they can pay less to get pac content than the streamers have to bid. Not to mention the streamers don’t actually need the content. Apple and Amazons bottom line will hardly notice if they get or don’t get PAC football

Lol yes Arizona is threatening to drive 9 1/2 hours and 640 miles to Lubbock. I’m sure that’s the master plan.

(Wild speculation)
Possibly this is 4D chess negotiating with Apple. Either Apple allows half the games on OTA or cable, while Apple still pays the bulk of the rights fees, or Arizona and friends blow up the league and Apple gets nothing, or has to try to work with a conference built around Washignton, Oregon, Colorado State and Rice.

(04-05-2023 07:46 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 08:22 PM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  The AZ AD’s comment about linear TV was a threat. They will leave the conference and “drive to Lubbock “ if the deal is heavy streaming. That does not help the PAC’s negotiations with the CW or ION. The linear tv people know they can pay less to get pac content than the streamers have to bid. Not to mention the streamers don’t actually need the content. Apple and Amazons bottom line will hardly notice if they get or don’t get PAC football

Lol yes Arizona is threatening to drive 9 1/2 hours and 640 miles to Lubbock. I’m sure that’s the master plan.

(Wild speculation)
Possibly this is 4D chess negotiating with Apple. Either Apple allows half the games on OTA or cable, while Apple still pays the bulk of the rights fees, or Arizona and friends blow up the league and Apple gets nothing, or has to try to work with a conference built around Washignton, Oregon, Colorado State and Rice.

If Apple is smart—which I’m sure some folks there are brilliant—then they should harness this opportunity to get their feet wet because everything will be streaming eventually.

(04-05-2023 07:54 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:46 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 08:22 PM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  The AZ AD’s comment about linear TV was a threat. They will leave the conference and “drive to Lubbock “ if the deal is heavy streaming. That does not help the PAC’s negotiations with the CW or ION. The linear tv people know they can pay less to get pac content than the streamers have to bid. Not to mention the streamers don’t actually need the content. Apple and Amazons bottom line will hardly notice if they get or don’t get PAC football

Lol yes Arizona is threatening to drive 9 1/2 hours and 640 miles to Lubbock. I’m sure that’s the master plan.

(Wild speculation)
Possibly this is 4D chess negotiating with Apple. Either Apple allows half the games on OTA or cable, while Apple still pays the bulk of the rights fees, or Arizona and friends blow up the league and Apple gets nothing, or has to try to work with a conference built around Washignton, Oregon, Colorado State and Rice.

If Apple is smart—which I’m sure some folks there are brilliant—then they should harness this opportunity to get their feet wet because everything will be streaming eventually.

I'm not sure about that. It's not necessarily a "work your way up" business -- if you sign the PAC and your Pac-10/12 deal flames out, you're going to be less credible bidding for the CFP in a year or two or the Big Ten 5 -7 years down the road than if you keep your powder dry.

Of course, after going deep into negotiations with the NFL and breaking off, and then doing the same with the PAC, that establishes its own track record. NBA is paying attention, I'm sure.

(04-05-2023 07:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 08:22 PM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  The AZ AD’s comment about linear TV was a threat. They will leave the conference and “drive to Lubbock “ if the deal is heavy streaming. That does not help the PAC’s negotiations with the CW or ION. The linear tv people know they can pay less to get pac content than the streamers have to bid. Not to mention the streamers don’t actually need the content. Apple and Amazons bottom line will hardly notice if they get or don’t get PAC football

Lol yes Arizona is threatening to drive 9 1/2 hours and 640 miles to Lubbock. I’m sure that’s the master plan.

Of course he isn’t driving to Lubbock. The AZ president said it to let it be known that they will go to the big 12 if the tv deal is less than what they expect which means the money needs to be comparable to the big 12 deal and most of the games need to be on linear TV.

BTW - how do you feel about slick Rick taking over at St. John’s? I hear he likes to buy his assistant coaches wives health insurance! LOL LOL LMFAO

(04-05-2023 08:50 AM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 08:22 PM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  The AZ AD’s comment about linear TV was a threat. They will leave the conference and “drive to Lubbock “ if the deal is heavy streaming. That does not help the PAC’s negotiations with the CW or ION. The linear tv people know they can pay less to get pac content than the streamers have to bid. Not to mention the streamers don’t actually need the content. Apple and Amazons bottom line will hardly notice if they get or don’t get PAC football

Lol yes Arizona is threatening to drive 9 1/2 hours and 640 miles to Lubbock. I’m sure that’s the master plan.

Of course he isn’t driving to Lubbock. The AZ president said it to let it be known that they will go to the big 12 if the tv deal is less than what they expect which means the money needs to be comparable to the big 12 deal and most of the games need to be on linear TV.

BTW - how do you feel about slick Rick taking over at St. John’s? I hear he likes to buy his assistant coaches wives health insurance! LOL LOL LMFAO

Are you referring to Pitino trying to flip a top NYC recruit? He wouldn’t be a great coach if he didn’t shoot his shot.

(04-05-2023 06:46 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 04:31 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 11:10 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  Jim Williams is on the outside of PAC negotiations looking in. From this vantage point, he tells Dennis Dodd that he doesn't see how the PAC can arrange for 'over half the Pac-12 content to be on traditional linear TV' with the usual suspects of 'NBC, CBS, ESPN, ABC or Fox.' He's bullish on CW (owned by Scripps) or ION as ways to get there.

An accurate thread heading would be 'Media consultant says PAC can reach 50%+ TV with CW/ION'

Reading the articles can shed a lot of light on the commentary.

Exactly….
Always look for the bias with anything that’s written. Dodd has already been called out for being bias in the past.
More of the same here.

Dodd is not a BXII guy. He’s a Missouri grad and in the past decade he usually trolls the conference.

This is what the PAC and its surrogates have been reduced to. Like a weird cult, everyone is out to get them.

In reality, it’s pretty clear why there’s little market for their product, and George will need a disruption even more synthetic than when ESPN used LHN to appease UT.

One would think Amazon or Apple are better off gaining entry with funding an extra window in BIG by subsidizing more schools to BiG, before going all-in on PAC. A much better starting point in the effort to convert CFB fans to streaming. And a shrewd move by BIG, even if inadvertent, to force that by declining Amazon’s bid, driving them to instead pay for expansion

PAC is in a tough spot. Nearly anything any provider wants, makes more sense if moving top 4 to 6 PAC elsewhere.

(04-05-2023 11:10 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 08:50 AM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 08:22 PM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  The AZ AD’s comment about linear TV was a threat. They will leave the conference and “drive to Lubbock “ if the deal is heavy streaming. That does not help the PAC’s negotiations with the CW or ION. The linear tv people know they can pay less to get pac content than the streamers have to bid. Not to mention the streamers don’t actually need the content. Apple and Amazons bottom line will hardly notice if they get or don’t get PAC football

Lol yes Arizona is threatening to drive 9 1/2 hours and 640 miles to Lubbock. I’m sure that’s the master plan.

Of course he isn’t driving to Lubbock. The AZ president said it to let it be known that they will go to the big 12 if the tv deal is less than what they expect which means the money needs to be comparable to the big 12 deal and most of the games need to be on linear TV.

BTW - how do you feel about slick Rick taking over at St. John’s? I hear he likes to buy his assistant coaches wives health insurance! LOL LOL LMFAO

Are you referring to Pitino trying to flip a top NYC recruit? He wouldn’t be a great coach if he didn’t shoot his shot.

Actually I am talking about his alleged adulterous affair with his assistant coach’s wife in the bathroom of the Italian restaurant where he impregnated her and then paid for her abortion claiming he was only paying for health insurance. Good Catholic boy Ricky P!

(04-05-2023 11:35 AM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 11:10 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 08:50 AM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:12 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 08:22 PM)bearcat1970 Wrote:  The AZ AD’s comment about linear TV was a threat. They will leave the conference and “drive to Lubbock “ if the deal is heavy streaming. That does not help the PAC’s negotiations with the CW or ION. The linear tv people know they can pay less to get pac content than the streamers have to bid. Not to mention the streamers don’t actually need the content. Apple and Amazons bottom line will hardly notice if they get or don’t get PAC football

Lol yes Arizona is threatening to drive 9 1/2 hours and 640 miles to Lubbock. I’m sure that’s the master plan.

Of course he isn’t driving to Lubbock. The AZ president said it to let it be known that they will go to the big 12 if the tv deal is less than what they expect which means the money needs to be comparable to the big 12 deal and most of the games need to be on linear TV.

BTW - how do you feel about slick Rick taking over at St. John’s? I hear he likes to buy his assistant coaches wives health insurance! LOL LOL LMFAO

Are you referring to Pitino trying to flip a top NYC recruit? He wouldn’t be a great coach if he didn’t shoot his shot.

Actually I am talking about his alleged adulterous affair with his assistant coach’s wife in the bathroom of the Italian restaurant where he impregnated her and then paid for her abortion claiming he was only paying for health insurance. Good Catholic boy Ricky P!

Oh, I was under the assumption it was somehow related to Carolina. I think he’s a great pickup for St. John’s, but not sure what it has to do with me or what we’re talking about lol

(04-04-2023 06:10 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 05:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The type of coverage could be yet another point of contention that drives some schools to consider a move to the more linear heavy Big12 conference TV deal.

Per Jon Wilner, Pac-12 survival was a 5-point favorite over Pac-12 extinction on March 1 but (those odds) "will continue to decrease by a half-point every week that comes and goes without a deal."

Which means if there's no deal by Wednesday, April 5, then Pac-12 survival will be a narrow 2.5-point favorite over Pac-12 extinction per Wilner's expert calculations.

Anyone else looking forward to Wilner's sunshine pumping when the Pac-12 survival is a two-touchdown underdog next fall?

Nobody other than UW and UO wants to leave, but if there is still no deal by the summer then it seems likely the 4c will move as a group to the big 12.