IMO, Senator Thune should be admonished by his constituents for signing on to sponsor this atrocity of a bill. He should be protecting freedom, not helping to set up more ways for the government to harass and victimize citizens. Put THAT horse out to pasture and out of D.C.

Quote:If you yearn for more terrifying government intrusion into your life, then the “Restrict Act” is the bill for you. Clue number one, this bill is poorly conceived and exemplifies dangerous government overreach with its endorsement by Biden’s National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan.

Quote:...Sullivan applauds the idea that Americans cannot make good decisions regarding their internet choices related to all devices, virtual (VPNs) or otherwise, in their homes. Also, the Secretary of Commerce, who the President appoints, will be in charge of the “systematic framework” to track your devices and “certain transactions” and then penalize those who step out of line. All in the name of national security risks—sound familiar? However, in truth, this bill, sponsored by Senators Mark Warner and John Thune, would fundamentally alter freedoms related to the ways Americans use the internet—with intrusive consequences similar to the abuses seen after the introduction of the Patriot Act.

Quote:Dubbed the TikTok bill because of discussion over banning the app because of TikTok’s ties to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), the bill has very little to do with the Chinese-controlled app. Instead, it lists a number of foreign adversaries who allegedly pose a national security risk. China is one of the named foreign adversaries.

The Commerce Secretary has control over the list of foreign adversaries and does not have to notify Congress when he or she changes the list. The bill allows a 15-day delay in notifying the President of those on the list. The Secretary may also create, keep, and revise “lists of foreign persons.” Anyone who poses a threat to critical infrastructure (like elections) can be deemed an adversary because of how critical infrastructure was defined in section 1016(e) of the Patriot Act. If your name is on that list, due process seems to go out the window.

https://www.uncoverdc.com/2023/03/28/the...veillance/

*If* they were really concerned about TikTok then why not just ban that? Oh no! They have to do much much more than that and that means circumventing peoples rights

If other countries used the standard of “has ties” to the U.S. military, they wouldn’t be able to use anything we produce.

Patriot Act 2.0

I was listening to a creator talk about it last night.. It's not just Tik Tok.

Twitch
Microsoft Teams
Zoom
PayPal
Venmo
Phones
TVs
Cameras

It's pretty massive.

surveil this

Hopefully, the bill dies a painful death.

(03-29-2023 09:07 AM)hburg Wrote:  Hopefully, the bill dies a painful death.

If it doesn't then you will know that both parties are not for liberty... which they already proved with the Patriot Act. That being said, TikTok should be banned by any corporation and government CISO as there is quite clearly privacy issues including potentially stealing your biometric information from your phone. That scares the hell out of me, personally.

This is just a back door to a "Great Firewall" china style and only approved encryption options.

If they want to ban the app they can just pass a law to ban the app and force it to be dropped from the app stores.

(03-29-2023 09:29 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  This is just a back door to a "Great Firewall" china style and only approved encryption options.

If they want to ban the app they can just pass a law to ban the app and force it to be dropped from the app stores.

Agreed. I don't disagree with the premise that the average person doesn't know how to secure their internet connection, but you don't need a law like this to force the ISPs to do a better job of having basic security functionality in place on their routers/modems.

This bill wasn’t written by corporations as it’s typically done; this was was written by government agencies.

I thought gubmint would use a large scale fake cyber hack attack to justify this. Instead they are just using scary china tiktok.

(03-29-2023 12:48 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Patriot Act 2.0

Way worse.

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(04-05-2023 11:07 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  I thought gubmint would use a large scale fake cyber hack attack to justify this. Instead they are just using scary china tiktok.

Why reinvent the wheel, when the wheel's already out there scaring enough peeps as is...

Hopefully this goes down in FLAMES!

They are already do all of this. Snowden.

(04-05-2023 11:29 AM)Claw Wrote:  They are already do all of this. Snowden.

You can still encrypt traffic in a VPN that they can’t decrypt until quantum computing hits scale.

So currently they can tap the traffic, but if you VPN it they can only see source and destination of the tunnel and not the content or the actual destination IP.

This would make it illegal to encrypt traffic in a VPN where they can’t see it.