(04-06-2023 11:12 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:53 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 03:13 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 12:35 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I know exactly what kind of city we have. I live here. Do you ? At my age I worry when I go to the grocery store or get gas. And I rarely go out to eat. Driving on 240 or 385 is like being at Talladega or Daytona. Plus the city leadership has never given a damn about the University. Id love to leave but being on a fixed income I’m stuck here until death.

Eagle, sorry to hear about your situation and I think you are confusing two very different ideas. Let me try to clarify. Here are 2 completely different statements:

1) Memphis has too much crime, particularly violent crime, and it needs to be effectively reduced and dealt with by the authorities.

2) Memphis has such a bad reputation for crime that it is preventing P5 athletic conferences from accepting the University of Memphis.

I agree with point 1 but not with point 2. Violent crime is a terrible problem in many cities and it should definitely be reduced! We need more good cops on the streets and anything else that can be done to reduce violent crime, which is a horrible problem in many cities, and is unfair to the residents who live there.

However, Memphis' crime problem has nothing to do with athletic conference realignment. Outside of Memphis, nobody thinks about Memphis's crime rate. Crime is a problem in most cities all over the country, and Memphis is maybe worse than most, but it's not what people across the country think of when they think about Memphis.

And by the way I lived in Memphis for about 17 years in various locations, had an apt in midtown, one in the university area, and then I owned a little house in the colonial acres neighborhood just off Mt Moriah.

I don’t disagree with your general point, but I’m afraid you are mistaken about the perception of the city. Almost without fail, when I tell someone out of state that I’m from Memphis they invariably mention the crime.

Yeah, I'm a born & raised Memphian who loves my town and proudly reps wherever I go, but it's pretty much all anyone talks about when I'm visiting other places.

the "high crime memphis" message is definitely the brand we have at the moment.

And that's a shame.

Here's something to think about... with the tech guy getting killed in San Fran earlier this week, the local SF news had a bit about their horrible homicide numbers.

San Francisco
Population: 715,717
2022 murders: 55

Memphis
Population: 621,777
2022 murders: 302

SF is a larger city but we have 5.5 times as many murders. And they think their stat is bad.

I've had a very different experience. I've lived in Ohio for 6 years now, tell everyone I meet that I'm from Memphis, have Memphis Tigers stuff everywhere I go, flag on my house, bumper sticker, golf bag, hat, clothing etc. No one has ever said anything about Memphis crime.

New Orleans has a much higher murder rate per capita than Memphis, by the way. Is crime the first thing you think about when you think of New Orleans? Crime rates, even when they're really bad, don't define a geographic location. And they certainly have nothing to do with athletic conference realignment.

With all do respect, if you haven’t lived here the last 6 years you have no clue how bad it is.

I’ve had a family member had cars stolen from 2 different restaurants on Poplar, one in broad daylight, the other at dusk.

I’ve had 3 different friends that were carjacked at gas stations

And I myself have witnessed a shooting between 2 cars at I40 and Whitten road.

And I think the murder rate is was off. It’s gotta be way more than 302. Seems as if there’s at least one murder every day.

I really get a kick at some of you who don’t live here that think you know more than people who do.

(04-24-2023 09:05 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 11:12 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:53 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 03:13 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Eagle, sorry to hear about your situation and I think you are confusing two very different ideas. Let me try to clarify. Here are 2 completely different statements:

1) Memphis has too much crime, particularly violent crime, and it needs to be effectively reduced and dealt with by the authorities.

2) Memphis has such a bad reputation for crime that it is preventing P5 athletic conferences from accepting the University of Memphis.

I agree with point 1 but not with point 2. Violent crime is a terrible problem in many cities and it should definitely be reduced! We need more good cops on the streets and anything else that can be done to reduce violent crime, which is a horrible problem in many cities, and is unfair to the residents who live there.

However, Memphis' crime problem has nothing to do with athletic conference realignment. Outside of Memphis, nobody thinks about Memphis's crime rate. Crime is a problem in most cities all over the country, and Memphis is maybe worse than most, but it's not what people across the country think of when they think about Memphis.

And by the way I lived in Memphis for about 17 years in various locations, had an apt in midtown, one in the university area, and then I owned a little house in the colonial acres neighborhood just off Mt Moriah.

I don’t disagree with your general point, but I’m afraid you are mistaken about the perception of the city. Almost without fail, when I tell someone out of state that I’m from Memphis they invariably mention the crime.

Yeah, I'm a born & raised Memphian who loves my town and proudly reps wherever I go, but it's pretty much all anyone talks about when I'm visiting other places.

the "high crime memphis" message is definitely the brand we have at the moment.

And that's a shame.

Here's something to think about... with the tech guy getting killed in San Fran earlier this week, the local SF news had a bit about their horrible homicide numbers.

San Francisco
Population: 715,717
2022 murders: 55

Memphis
Population: 621,777
2022 murders: 302

SF is a larger city but we have 5.5 times as many murders. And they think their stat is bad.

I've had a very different experience. I've lived in Ohio for 6 years now, tell everyone I meet that I'm from Memphis, have Memphis Tigers stuff everywhere I go, flag on my house, bumper sticker, golf bag, hat, clothing etc. No one has ever said anything about Memphis crime.

New Orleans has a much higher murder rate per capita than Memphis, by the way. Is crime the first thing you think about when you think of New Orleans? Crime rates, even when they're really bad, don't define a geographic location. And they certainly have nothing to do with athletic conference realignment.

With all do respect, if you haven’t lived here the last 6 years you have no clue how bad it is.

I’ve had a family member had cars stolen from 2 different restaurants on Poplar, one in broad daylight, the other at dusk.

I’ve had 3 different friends that were carjacked at gas stations

And I myself have witnessed a shooting between 2 cars at I40 and Whitten road.

And I think the murder rate is was off. It’s gotta be way more than 302. Seems as if there’s at least one murder every day.

I really get a kick at some of you who don’t live here that think you know more than people who do.

I've seen none of that, and I don't personally know anyone that was shot at or carjacked. Maybe my friends are just smart enough to avoid places like that. I do live in OB, but I'm in Memphis many times a week.

I live in Cordova (since 1996), and other than horrendously dangerous driving, I have not seen any of that stuff, and I do not know anyone personally who has been a victim. BUT, there is no doubt this stuff goes on in Memphis.

Is our city a terrible place? I do not think so.
Does one need to be aware of what is happening near them? Absolutely.

Does all of this impact getting into a 'P5' conference? Not nearly as much as that $350M, +the tax extensions for out Stadiums and Arena.

When is the last time the Big 12 made any statement regarding University of Memphis that indicated interest/it may happen or disinterest/it probably isn't happening? It's been quiet in that regard from what I can see. Maybe the interest is there and they are waiting to see the new upgrades taking place?

(04-24-2023 11:29 AM)HardBall Fan Wrote:  When is the last time the Big 12 made any statement regarding University of Memphis that indicated interest/it may happen or disinterest/it probably isn't happening? It's been quiet in that regard from what I can see. Maybe the interest is there and they are waiting to see the new upgrades taking place?

It seems like ESPN has told the Big 12 that non P5 additions would not be at pro rata.

(04-24-2023 11:41 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:29 AM)HardBall Fan Wrote:  When is the last time the Big 12 made any statement regarding University of Memphis that indicated interest/it may happen or disinterest/it probably isn't happening? It's been quiet in that regard from what I can see. Maybe the interest is there and they are waiting to see the new upgrades taking place?

It seems like ESPN has told the Big 12 that non P5 additions would not be at pro rata.

The Big XII is trying to poach the remaining members of the PAC 10. Until the PAC signs a TV deal, the Big XII will continue to court PAC members in preference to us.

(04-24-2023 09:05 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 11:12 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:53 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 03:13 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Eagle, sorry to hear about your situation and I think you are confusing two very different ideas. Let me try to clarify. Here are 2 completely different statements:

1) Memphis has too much crime, particularly violent crime, and it needs to be effectively reduced and dealt with by the authorities.

2) Memphis has such a bad reputation for crime that it is preventing P5 athletic conferences from accepting the University of Memphis.

I agree with point 1 but not with point 2. Violent crime is a terrible problem in many cities and it should definitely be reduced! We need more good cops on the streets and anything else that can be done to reduce violent crime, which is a horrible problem in many cities, and is unfair to the residents who live there.

However, Memphis' crime problem has nothing to do with athletic conference realignment. Outside of Memphis, nobody thinks about Memphis's crime rate. Crime is a problem in most cities all over the country, and Memphis is maybe worse than most, but it's not what people across the country think of when they think about Memphis.

And by the way I lived in Memphis for about 17 years in various locations, had an apt in midtown, one in the university area, and then I owned a little house in the colonial acres neighborhood just off Mt Moriah.

I don’t disagree with your general point, but I’m afraid you are mistaken about the perception of the city. Almost without fail, when I tell someone out of state that I’m from Memphis they invariably mention the crime.

Yeah, I'm a born & raised Memphian who loves my town and proudly reps wherever I go, but it's pretty much all anyone talks about when I'm visiting other places.

the "high crime memphis" message is definitely the brand we have at the moment.

And that's a shame.

Here's something to think about... with the tech guy getting killed in San Fran earlier this week, the local SF news had a bit about their horrible homicide numbers.

San Francisco
Population: 715,717
2022 murders: 55

Memphis
Population: 621,777
2022 murders: 302

SF is a larger city but we have 5.5 times as many murders. And they think their stat is bad.

I've had a very different experience. I've lived in Ohio for 6 years now, tell everyone I meet that I'm from Memphis, have Memphis Tigers stuff everywhere I go, flag on my house, bumper sticker, golf bag, hat, clothing etc. No one has ever said anything about Memphis crime.

New Orleans has a much higher murder rate per capita than Memphis, by the way. Is crime the first thing you think about when you think of New Orleans? Crime rates, even when they're really bad, don't define a geographic location. And they certainly have nothing to do with athletic conference realignment.

With all do respect, if you haven’t lived here the last 6 years you have no clue how bad it is.

I’ve had a family member had cars stolen from 2 different restaurants on Poplar, one in broad daylight, the other at dusk.

I’ve had 3 different friends that were carjacked at gas stations

And I myself have witnessed a shooting between 2 cars at I40 and Whitten road.

And I think the murder rate is was off. It’s gotta be way more than 302. Seems as if there’s at least one murder every day.

I really get a kick at some of you who don’t live here that think you know more than people who do.

Just have to reference one incident. The head of our Chamber of Commerce was gunned down a few blocks from a major tourists attraction.

Yes, not pro-rata automatically. But Bob Thompson (former Fox Sports) said that is not unusual. Just means that the $$ would be negotiated for a G5.

I think Big 12 keeps looking at PAC till that door is closed officially.

Will be real interesting if they circle back to Memphis, Boise, USF, etc. when that door is shut.

Yormack has an itchy trigger finger and wants to make his mark...so he will do something.

(04-24-2023 11:56 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:41 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:29 AM)HardBall Fan Wrote:  When is the last time the Big 12 made any statement regarding University of Memphis that indicated interest/it may happen or disinterest/it probably isn't happening? It's been quiet in that regard from what I can see. Maybe the interest is there and they are waiting to see the new upgrades taking place?

It seems like ESPN has told the Big 12 that non P5 additions would not be at pro rata.

The Big XII is trying to poach the remaining members of the PAC 10. Until the PAC signs a TV deal, the Big XII will continue to court PAC members in preference to us.

So far they've been turned down by ever PAC team they approached.

(04-24-2023 11:41 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:29 AM)HardBall Fan Wrote:  When is the last time the Big 12 made any statement regarding University of Memphis that indicated interest/it may happen or disinterest/it probably isn't happening? It's been quiet in that regard from what I can see. Maybe the interest is there and they are waiting to see the new upgrades taking place?

It seems like ESPN has told the Big 12 that non P5 additions would not be at pro rata.

ESPN is concerned about the Big XII not having a bell cow program that can carry the conference. Right now Ohio St has a fan base that's as big as the entire Big XII.

(04-24-2023 12:43 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:56 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:41 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:29 AM)HardBall Fan Wrote:  When is the last time the Big 12 made any statement regarding University of Memphis that indicated interest/it may happen or disinterest/it probably isn't happening? It's been quiet in that regard from what I can see. Maybe the interest is there and they are waiting to see the new upgrades taking place?

It seems like ESPN has told the Big 12 that non P5 additions would not be at pro rata.

The Big XII is trying to poach the remaining members of the PAC 10. Until the PAC signs a TV deal, the Big XII will continue to court PAC members in preference to us.

So far they've been turned down by ever PAC team they approached.

That's true - so far. The Colorado chancellor made this statement:

Quote:"What I’ve said along with the other presidents and chancellors is we’re not going to even think about going anywhere, none of us, until we see what kind of offer we get, and that’s still being worked out. And I’m confident it’s going to be fine."

As long as they keep hedging their commitments, the Big XII commissioner is going to keep after them. Once that settles things will happen one way or the other.

(04-24-2023 12:43 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:56 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:41 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:29 AM)HardBall Fan Wrote:  When is the last time the Big 12 made any statement regarding University of Memphis that indicated interest/it may happen or disinterest/it probably isn't happening? It's been quiet in that regard from what I can see. Maybe the interest is there and they are waiting to see the new upgrades taking place?

It seems like ESPN has told the Big 12 that non P5 additions would not be at pro rata.

The Big XII is trying to poach the remaining members of the PAC 10. Until the PAC signs a TV deal, the Big XII will continue to court PAC members in preference to us.

So far they've been turned down by ever PAC team they approached.

ASU, UA & CO presidents have all said publicly they will not make a decision UNTIL the PAC commiss presents a media contract. While that doesn't mean PAC schools are moving to the B12, it also doesn't mean they aren't. So, at this point a B12 move is still in play. And BTW, the new B12 media deal specifically says it will not pay pro-rata for other G5 additions which in my estimation means if the B12 fails to attract PAC schools, it will stand pat with its current membership for the foreseeable future. Just another way to say the same thing CLAW just said.

(04-24-2023 01:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 12:43 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:56 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:41 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:29 AM)HardBall Fan Wrote:  When is the last time the Big 12 made any statement regarding University of Memphis that indicated interest/it may happen or disinterest/it probably isn't happening? It's been quiet in that regard from what I can see. Maybe the interest is there and they are waiting to see the new upgrades taking place?

It seems like ESPN has told the Big 12 that non P5 additions would not be at pro rata.

The Big XII is trying to poach the remaining members of the PAC 10. Until the PAC signs a TV deal, the Big XII will continue to court PAC members in preference to us.

So far they've been turned down by ever PAC team they approached.

ASU, UA & CO presidents have all said publicly they will not make a decision UNTIL the PAC commiss presents a media contract. While that doesn't mean PAC schools are moving to the B12, it also doesn't mean they aren't. So, at this point a B12 move is still in play. And BTW, the new B12 media deal specifically says it will not pay pro-rata for other G5 additions which in my estimation means if the B12 fails to attract PAC schools, it will stand pat with its current membership for the foreseeable future. Just another way to say the same thing CLAW just said.

BUT - before the PAC events, the Big XII was looking at expanding and we were on deck. It is not unreasonable to think we could be back in play if the PAC stays together. I don't think that is impossible.

(04-24-2023 09:05 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 11:12 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:53 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  

(04-04-2023 03:13 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Eagle, sorry to hear about your situation and I think you are confusing two very different ideas. Let me try to clarify. Here are 2 completely different statements:

1) Memphis has too much crime, particularly violent crime, and it needs to be effectively reduced and dealt with by the authorities.

2) Memphis has such a bad reputation for crime that it is preventing P5 athletic conferences from accepting the University of Memphis.

I agree with point 1 but not with point 2. Violent crime is a terrible problem in many cities and it should definitely be reduced! We need more good cops on the streets and anything else that can be done to reduce violent crime, which is a horrible problem in many cities, and is unfair to the residents who live there.

However, Memphis' crime problem has nothing to do with athletic conference realignment. Outside of Memphis, nobody thinks about Memphis's crime rate. Crime is a problem in most cities all over the country, and Memphis is maybe worse than most, but it's not what people across the country think of when they think about Memphis.

And by the way I lived in Memphis for about 17 years in various locations, had an apt in midtown, one in the university area, and then I owned a little house in the colonial acres neighborhood just off Mt Moriah.

I don’t disagree with your general point, but I’m afraid you are mistaken about the perception of the city. Almost without fail, when I tell someone out of state that I’m from Memphis they invariably mention the crime.

Yeah, I'm a born & raised Memphian who loves my town and proudly reps wherever I go, but it's pretty much all anyone talks about when I'm visiting other places.

the "high crime memphis" message is definitely the brand we have at the moment.

And that's a shame.

Here's something to think about... with the tech guy getting killed in San Fran earlier this week, the local SF news had a bit about their horrible homicide numbers.

San Francisco
Population: 715,717
2022 murders: 55

Memphis
Population: 621,777
2022 murders: 302

SF is a larger city but we have 5.5 times as many murders. And they think their stat is bad.

I've had a very different experience. I've lived in Ohio for 6 years now, tell everyone I meet that I'm from Memphis, have Memphis Tigers stuff everywhere I go, flag on my house, bumper sticker, golf bag, hat, clothing etc. No one has ever said anything about Memphis crime.

New Orleans has a much higher murder rate per capita than Memphis, by the way. Is crime the first thing you think about when you think of New Orleans? Crime rates, even when they're really bad, don't define a geographic location. And they certainly have nothing to do with athletic conference realignment.

With all do respect, if you haven’t lived here the last 6 years you have no clue how bad it is.

I’ve had a family member had cars stolen from 2 different restaurants on Poplar, one in broad daylight, the other at dusk.

I’ve had 3 different friends that were carjacked at gas stations

And I myself have witnessed a shooting between 2 cars at I40 and Whitten road.

And I think the murder rate is was off. It’s gotta be way more than 302. Seems as if there’s at least one murder every day.

I really get a kick at some of you who don’t live here that think you know more than people who do.

My brother-in-law's business was repeatably burglarized until he obtained a dog and an expensive security system. The measures slowed, but not stopped the attempts.

The sooner the egregious crime wave in Memphis is universally recognized, the sooner the will can be (hopefully) addressed and mitigated.

(04-24-2023 01:24 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 01:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 12:43 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:56 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:41 AM)Stammers Wrote:  It seems like ESPN has told the Big 12 that non P5 additions would not be at pro rata.

The Big XII is trying to poach the remaining members of the PAC 10. Until the PAC signs a TV deal, the Big XII will continue to court PAC members in preference to us.

So far they've been turned down by ever PAC team they approached.

ASU, UA & CO presidents have all said publicly they will not make a decision UNTIL the PAC commiss presents a media contract. While that doesn't mean PAC schools are moving to the B12, it also doesn't mean they aren't. So, at this point a B12 move is still in play. And BTW, the new B12 media deal specifically says it will not pay pro-rata for other G5 additions which in my estimation means if the B12 fails to attract PAC schools, it will stand pat with its current membership for the foreseeable future. Just another way to say the same thing CLAW just said.

BUT - before the PAC events, the Big XII was looking at expanding and we were on deck. It is not unreasonable to think we could be back in play if the PAC stays together. I don't think that is impossible.

Would agree except that the B12 media deal specifically says it won't pay pro-rata shares for any remaining G5 schools. I think the logic was that the B12 had to get to 12 schools for the best deal but being at that number, additional schools have to bring enough market to cover their share (& no remaining G5 schools fit that criteria).

(04-24-2023 01:34 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 01:24 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 01:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 12:43 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 11:56 AM)Claw Wrote:  The Big XII is trying to poach the remaining members of the PAC 10. Until the PAC signs a TV deal, the Big XII will continue to court PAC members in preference to us.

So far they've been turned down by ever PAC team they approached.

ASU, UA & CO presidents have all said publicly they will not make a decision UNTIL the PAC commiss presents a media contract. While that doesn't mean PAC schools are moving to the B12, it also doesn't mean they aren't. So, at this point a B12 move is still in play. And BTW, the new B12 media deal specifically says it will not pay pro-rata for other G5 additions which in my estimation means if the B12 fails to attract PAC schools, it will stand pat with its current membership for the foreseeable future. Just another way to say the same thing CLAW just said.

BUT - before the PAC events, the Big XII was looking at expanding and we were on deck. It is not unreasonable to think we could be back in play if the PAC stays together. I don't think that is impossible.

Would agree except that the B12 media deal specifically says it won't pay pro-rata shares for any remaining G5 schools. I think the logic was that the B12 had to get to 12 schools for the best deal but being at that number, additional schools have to bring enough market to cover their share (& no remaining G5 schools fit that criteria).

So they’re locked on 12 members? Once the PAC signs a new deal (equal to or better than the Big12 deal), there will no longer be any P5 candidates that would consider them.

(04-12-2023 09:00 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-12-2023 08:05 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Maybe the AAC can get a deal on Reelz or something like that

Our media deal with ESPN doesn't expire until 2031.

2034. It got extended.

(04-24-2023 12:40 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 09:05 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 11:12 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(04-05-2023 07:53 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  I don’t disagree with your general point, but I’m afraid you are mistaken about the perception of the city. Almost without fail, when I tell someone out of state that I’m from Memphis they invariably mention the crime.

Yeah, I'm a born & raised Memphian who loves my town and proudly reps wherever I go, but it's pretty much all anyone talks about when I'm visiting other places.

the "high crime memphis" message is definitely the brand we have at the moment.

And that's a shame.

Here's something to think about... with the tech guy getting killed in San Fran earlier this week, the local SF news had a bit about their horrible homicide numbers.

San Francisco
Population: 715,717
2022 murders: 55

Memphis
Population: 621,777
2022 murders: 302

SF is a larger city but we have 5.5 times as many murders. And they think their stat is bad.

I've had a very different experience. I've lived in Ohio for 6 years now, tell everyone I meet that I'm from Memphis, have Memphis Tigers stuff everywhere I go, flag on my house, bumper sticker, golf bag, hat, clothing etc. No one has ever said anything about Memphis crime.

New Orleans has a much higher murder rate per capita than Memphis, by the way. Is crime the first thing you think about when you think of New Orleans? Crime rates, even when they're really bad, don't define a geographic location. And they certainly have nothing to do with athletic conference realignment.

With all do respect, if you haven’t lived here the last 6 years you have no clue how bad it is.

I’ve had a family member had cars stolen from 2 different restaurants on Poplar, one in broad daylight, the other at dusk.

I’ve had 3 different friends that were carjacked at gas stations

And I myself have witnessed a shooting between 2 cars at I40 and Whitten road.

And I think the murder rate is was off. It’s gotta be way more than 302. Seems as if there’s at least one murder every day.

I really get a kick at some of you who don’t live here that think you know more than people who do.

Just have to reference one incident. The head of our Chamber of Commerce was gunned down a few blocks from a major tourists attraction.

He was white so the story came and went quickly and rather quietly on the national scene.

It is what it is.

(04-24-2023 02:47 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 12:40 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-24-2023 09:05 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 11:12 AM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-06-2023 10:54 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Yeah, I'm a born & raised Memphian who loves my town and proudly reps wherever I go, but it's pretty much all anyone talks about when I'm visiting other places.

the "high crime memphis" message is definitely the brand we have at the moment.

And that's a shame.

Here's something to think about... with the tech guy getting killed in San Fran earlier this week, the local SF news had a bit about their horrible homicide numbers.

San Francisco
Population: 715,717
2022 murders: 55

Memphis
Population: 621,777
2022 murders: 302

SF is a larger city but we have 5.5 times as many murders. And they think their stat is bad.

I've had a very different experience. I've lived in Ohio for 6 years now, tell everyone I meet that I'm from Memphis, have Memphis Tigers stuff everywhere I go, flag on my house, bumper sticker, golf bag, hat, clothing etc. No one has ever said anything about Memphis crime.

New Orleans has a much higher murder rate per capita than Memphis, by the way. Is crime the first thing you think about when you think of New Orleans? Crime rates, even when they're really bad, don't define a geographic location. And they certainly have nothing to do with athletic conference realignment.

With all do respect, if you haven’t lived here the last 6 years you have no clue how bad it is.

I’ve had a family member had cars stolen from 2 different restaurants on Poplar, one in broad daylight, the other at dusk.

I’ve had 3 different friends that were carjacked at gas stations

And I myself have witnessed a shooting between 2 cars at I40 and Whitten road.

And I think the murder rate is was off. It’s gotta be way more than 302. Seems as if there’s at least one murder every day.

I really get a kick at some of you who don’t live here that think you know more than people who do.

Just have to reference one incident. The head of our Chamber of Commerce was gunned down a few blocks from a major tourists attraction.

He was white so the story came and went quickly and rather quietly on the national scene.

It is what it is.

Welcome to the world of black people prior to the advent of portable cameras and social media. Prior to that it was totally ignored or the person "must have done something wrong."