(03-30-2023 08:48 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:32 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:16 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:53 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:39 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Yeah they really kicked the governments ass, meanwhile Disney just laid off about 7000 people

Big win.

Yes, layoffs happen in the Corporate world.

yeah companies ditch 7000 workers all the time

It's about 3% of their employee base. You could even call it a rightsizing.

Top execs are going

I've read that they are not going to let Marvel run as its own operating unit anymore.

(03-30-2023 08:50 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:45 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Private attys lose cases all the time against prosecutors.

They do but unless this is a cut and dry issue (I can't really tell), I'll always bet on the ones that charge $400 an hour.

What do you think the issue is?

(03-30-2023 07:54 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:34 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I'm scrolling thru the Law. It seems like the Law spells out the powers of the State-approved board. It's not a simple 'the government chooses the board'. It lists the duties of the board in the law. It gives them authority. It doesn't matter if the old board gave away their authority. This law says this board has this authority.

What is wild is that the agreements that the old board did sat in the public domain for about a month without anyone noticing.

This makes me wonder how much *actual" public notice there was.

(03-30-2023 07:56 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(03-29-2023 10:04 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Did he really think Disney was just going to sit quietly and let him collect the Mouse's scalp for his intolerance-fueled POTUS campaign in waiting? Disney was around long before Gov. DeSantis, and they'll be around long after he has mercifully faded from prominence. Most governors have more sense than to war with major pillars of their state's economy just to score a few cheap points in the culture wars.

Funny how the left sides with corporations now.

Not to mention corporations avoiding paying taxes. I don’t understand the twisting you got to do to tow the marxist line.

I just did a quick overview so half of this could be wrong or not completely right for what it's worth. But my understanding is that we had a Disney controlled board which understanding that it would soon be dissolved voted to forfeit all its powers to Disney. Under that forfeit Disney now has those powers for the reign of King Charles III + 21 years. The new board created by DeSantis, for whatever reason, has just discovered this.

(03-30-2023 09:32 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I just did a quick overview so half of this could be wrong or not completely right for what it's worth. But my understanding is that we had a Disney controlled board which understanding that it would soon be dissolved voted to forfeit all its powers to Disney. Under that forfeit Disney now has those powers for the reign of King Charles III + 21 years. The new board created by DeSantis, for whatever reason, has just discovered this.

try again in English

(03-30-2023 09:15 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:50 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:45 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Private attys lose cases all the time against prosecutors.

They do but unless this is a cut and dry issue (I can't really tell), I'll always bet on the ones that charge $400 an hour.

What do you think the issue is?

Can a lame duck board that may or may not have been controlled by the entity it was charged to oversee essentially 'give away the store' before the new board is appointed?

A second issue may be what constitutes adequate public notice in this situation?

(03-30-2023 07:39 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:32 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I'm guessing the lawyers that Disney employees or engages are a bit smarter than government employees.

Yeah they really kicked the governments ass, meanwhile Disney just laid off about 7000 people

Big win.

What caused the layoffs? I know a couple of people that were Disney fanatics that went to Orlando 2 and 3 times a year. They now say they have no use for the place after Disney decided to go woke. They are blaming higher costs and low international travel, but this has to also be problem for Disney. They just don't acknowledge it.

(03-30-2023 09:38 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Can a lame duck board that may or may not have been controlled by the entity it was charged to oversee essentially 'give away the store' before the new board is appointed?

I suppose that may be one piece of the puzzle. But it seems to me the heart of the matter is whether the State of Florida may (or may not) revoke any special legal privileges/exemptions previously granted to the owner of real-estate, or to the owner’s proxy.

(03-30-2023 09:37 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 09:32 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I just did a quick overview so half of this could be wrong or not completely right for what it's worth. But my understanding is that we had a Disney controlled board which understanding that it would soon be dissolved voted to forfeit all its powers to Disney. Under that forfeit Disney now has those powers for the reign of King Charles III + 21 years. The new board created by DeSantis, for whatever reason, has just discovered this.

try again in English

I'll try to put it in language you might understand.

So you and your underage kid are sharing a case of beer on the front porch. Your common law wife has put your son in charge and she has asked him to limit you to 12 beers. Problem is is that the boy still listens to you. Your common law wife understands the problem here and decides that she's going to bring in a new watchdog.... the next door neighbor's underage beer drinking kid to watch you. Him and his pregnant girlfriend lived in the trailer next door. Before that happens though you and your son hide the case of beer (without telling your common law squeeze) so that you can drink all you want. So here's the issue... Does the next door neighbor's kid get any beer? and does he have to give you more than 12? Or are you in sole control of the beer since your boy, who was in charge when it happened, helped you hide it?

(03-30-2023 09:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 09:37 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 09:32 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I just did a quick overview so half of this could be wrong or not completely right for what it's worth. But my understanding is that we had a Disney controlled board which understanding that it would soon be dissolved voted to forfeit all its powers to Disney. Under that forfeit Disney now has those powers for the reign of King Charles III + 21 years. The new board created by DeSantis, for whatever reason, has just discovered this.

try again in English

I'll try to put it in language you might understand.

So you and your underage kid are sharing a case of beer on the front porch. Your common law wife has put your son in charge and she has asked him to limit you to 12 beers. Problem is is that the boy still listens to you. Your common law wife understands the problem here and decides that she's going to bring in a new watchdog.... the next door neighbor's underage beer drinking kid to watch you. Him and his pregnant girlfriend lived in the trailer next door. Before that happens though you and your son hide the case of beer (without telling your common law squeeze) so that you can drink all you want. So here's the issue... Does the next door neighbor's kid get any beer? and does he have to give you more than 12? Or are you in sole control of the beer since your boy, who was in charge when it happened, helped you hide it?

The term is "regulatory capture."

Regulatory capture happens all the time. The pharma companies control the FDA. The media companies control the FCC. Taxicab commissions in NYC and DC are captured by the mega cab companies. Wall Street controls the SEC. Banks control the Fed. The list goes on and on....


*edit - Regulatory capture is the reason that government regulation is usually a dumb idea. The regulatory body ends up being used as a weapon against smaller competitors, frequently increasing the power of the large corporations they are supposed to be regulating.

(03-30-2023 08:51 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:48 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:32 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 08:16 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 07:53 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Yes, layoffs happen in the Corporate world.

yeah companies ditch 7000 workers all the time

It's about 3% of their employee base. You could even call it a rightsizing.

Top execs are going

I've read that they are not going to let Marvel run as its own operating unit anymore.

True, but why do you think they'd make that decision now?

(03-30-2023 07:32 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I'm guessing the lawyers that Disney employees or engages are a bit smarter than government employees.

Looks like the State of Florida has hired outside legal representation to handle this matter going forward.

(03-30-2023 09:44 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 09:38 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Can a lame duck board that may or may not have been controlled by the entity it was charged to oversee essentially 'give away the store' before the new board is appointed?

I suppose that may be one piece of the puzzle. But it seems to me the heart of the matter is whether the State of Florida may (or may not) revoke any special legal privileges/exemptions previously granted to the owner of real-estate, or to the owner’s proxy.

Right, assuming that once a power is transferred generally that power now belongs to the entity it's transferred to, then *how* that transfer is done and whether the the entity transferring that power is truly independent becomes important. Was the prior board more or less the same thing as Disney itself? If so, what you have is Disney granting a power to Disney. Plus, unless there was just negligence on the part of the government lawyers, there may be an issue with actual notice and compliance with Sunshine laws when transferring this power. I'm sure we're going to find out since Florida has hired outside law firms to handle matters going forward.

womp womp

So what happened was local dems on that board started colluding with Disney, including coming up with a bond where they would then raise taxes on those local to the area to cover Disney debts.

But the state stepped in, replaced the board with a state controlled board, and has neutered Disney and local dems plans to give Disney back their control while taking on Disney debt.

Is this a war yet, or just a "territorial dispute"?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/politics/...index.html

(04-26-2023 11:20 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  Is this a war yet, or just a "territorial dispute"?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/politics/...index.html

not clicking CNN

we have rules here filth

(04-17-2023 01:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  womp womp

So what happened was local dems on that board started colluding with Disney, including coming up with a bond where they would then raise taxes on those local to the area to cover Disney debts.

But the state stepped in, replaced the board with a state controlled board, and has neutered Disney and local dems plans to give Disney back their control while taking on Disney debt.

disney world has to be one of the levels of hell

(03-30-2023 09:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 09:37 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-30-2023 09:32 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I just did a quick overview so half of this could be wrong or not completely right for what it's worth. But my understanding is that we had a Disney controlled board which understanding that it would soon be dissolved voted to forfeit all its powers to Disney. Under that forfeit Disney now has those powers for the reign of King Charles III + 21 years. The new board created by DeSantis, for whatever reason, has just discovered this.

try again in English

I'll try to put it in language you might understand.

So you and your underage kid are sharing a case of beer on the front porch. Your common law wife has put your son in charge and she has asked him to limit you to 12 beers. Problem is is that the boy still listens to you. Your common law wife understands the problem here and decides that she's going to bring in a new watchdog.... the next door neighbor's underage beer drinking kid to watch you. Him and his pregnant girlfriend lived in the trailer next door. Before that happens though you and your son hide the case of beer (without telling your common law squeeze) so that you can drink all you want. So here's the issue... Does the next door neighbor's kid get any beer? and does he have to give you more than 12? Or are you in sole control of the beer since your boy, who was in charge when it happened, helped you hide it?

You really do seem to know a LOT about trailer park life.

We pretty much knew this was headed to the courts.