I was trying to find 3 more teams to expand the SEC to 24 with from a different thread and couldn’t do it. Instead I created 8 Ten team all sports conferences. The conference champs and top 8 at large make the playoffs.



Big East
BC
Maryland
Pitt
PSU
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
UConn
VaTech
Virginia

ACC
Clemson
Duke
FSU
G Tech
Miami
NC State
Notre Dame
South Carolina
UNC
Wake

SEC
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Miss State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

Big Ten
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
MSU
Northwestern
OSU
Purdue
Wisconsin

PAC 10
Arizona
ASU
Cal
Oregon
OSU
Stanford
UCLA
USC
UW
Wazzu

Big 8
Baylor
Colorado
Iowa State
K State
Kansas
Nebraska
Ok State
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M

CUSA
Cincinnati
Houston
Kentucky
Louisville
Memphis
SMU
TCU
UCF
USF
WVU

Mountain West
AFA
Boise State
BYU
CSU
Fresno State
SDSU
Texas Tech
Utah
UTEP
Wyoming

Wow, imagine hating WVU so much that you left them out of the conference with their historic rivalries.

And ECU didn’t make the top 80, but UTEP did?lWhat?!!!

(03-25-2023 12:03 PM)wimsmatthew Wrote:  Wow, imagine hating WVU so much that you left them out of the conference with their historic rivalries.

I CAN imagine it and I DO hate WVU that much.

(03-25-2023 12:12 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  And ECU didn’t make the top 80, but UTEP did?lWhat?!!!

If it was 11 team conferences ECU would have made it easily. Unfortunately there are a LOT more teams in the east than the west as the PAC 12 is discovering.

(03-25-2023 11:45 AM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  I was trying to find 3 more teams to expand the SEC to 24 with from a different thread and couldn’t do it. Instead I created 8 Ten team all sports conferences. The conference champs and top 8 at large make the playoffs.



Big East
BC
Maryland
Pitt
PSU
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
UConn
VaTech
Virginia

ACC
Clemson
Duke
FSU
G Tech
Miami
NC State
Notre Dame
South Carolina
UNC
Wake

SEC
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Miss State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

Big Ten
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
MSU
Northwestern
OSU
Purdue
Wisconsin

PAC 10
Arizona
ASU
Cal
Oregon
OSU
Stanford
UCLA
USC
UW
Wazzu

Big 8
Baylor
Colorado
Iowa State
K State
Kansas
Nebraska
Ok State
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M

CUSA
Cincinnati
Houston
Kentucky
Louisville
Memphis
SMU
TCU
UCF
USF
WVU

Mountain West
AFA
Boise State
BYU
CSU
Fresno State
SDSU
Texas Tech
Utah
UTEP
Wyoming

Extra hard pass on that ACC. Give us UMd back along with PSU and I’ll do it. If you get ND to agree…that should be easy!

(03-25-2023 01:08 PM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(03-25-2023 11:45 AM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  I was trying to find 3 more teams to expand the SEC to 24 with from a different thread and couldn’t do it. Instead I created 8 Ten team all sports conferences. The conference champs and top 8 at large make the playoffs.



Big East
BC
Maryland
Pitt
PSU
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
UConn
VaTech
Virginia

ACC
Clemson
Duke
FSU
G Tech
Miami
NC State
Notre Dame
South Carolina
UNC
Wake

SEC
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Miss State
Ole Miss
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

Big Ten
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
MSU
Northwestern
OSU
Purdue
Wisconsin

PAC 10
Arizona
ASU
Cal
Oregon
OSU
Stanford
UCLA
USC
UW
Wazzu

Big 8
Baylor
Colorado
Iowa State
K State
Kansas
Nebraska
Ok State
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M

CUSA
Cincinnati
Houston
Kentucky
Louisville
Memphis
SMU
TCU
UCF
USF
WVU

Mountain West
AFA
Boise State
BYU
CSU
Fresno State
SDSU
Texas Tech
Utah
UTEP
Wyoming

Extra hard pass on that ACC. Give us UMd back along with PSU and I’ll do it. If you get ND to agree…that should be easy!

I wouldn’t trade Penn State or Maryland for anything this ACC has. I would give you Va Tech if you keep Notre Dame.

Mountain West

Wyoming
Boise State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Montana State
Idaho
Eastern Washington
Sacramento State

The ideal 10 team ACC.

Maryland
UVa
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
Duke
NC State
Carolina
South Carolina
Clemson
Georgia Tech

(03-25-2023 12:58 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(03-25-2023 12:03 PM)wimsmatthew Wrote:  Wow, imagine hating WVU so much that you left them out of the conference with their historic rivalries.

I CAN imagine it and I DO hate WVU that much.

Unless I overlooked them, you hate Missouri so much that they are not in any of these conferences.

(03-25-2023 12:58 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(03-25-2023 12:03 PM)wimsmatthew Wrote:  Wow, imagine hating WVU so much that you left them out of the conference with their historic rivalries.

I CAN imagine it and I DO hate WVU that much.

Rutgers guy talkin' smack.......now that's funny.

(03-25-2023 02:35 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  

(03-25-2023 12:58 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(03-25-2023 12:03 PM)wimsmatthew Wrote:  Wow, imagine hating WVU so much that you left them out of the conference with their historic rivalries.

I CAN imagine it and I DO hate WVU that much.

Unless I overlooked them, you hate Missouri so much that they are not in any of these conferences.

Missouri was definitely an oversight.

(03-25-2023 03:26 PM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  

(03-25-2023 12:58 PM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  

(03-25-2023 12:03 PM)wimsmatthew Wrote:  Wow, imagine hating WVU so much that you left them out of the conference with their historic rivalries.

I CAN imagine it and I DO hate WVU that much.

Rutgers guy talkin' smack.......now that's funny.

Smack and hate are different things. I didn’t say I thought WVU was bad, I just don’t like them and don’t ever want to be in a conference with me again.

(03-25-2023 12:03 PM)wimsmatthew Wrote:  Wow, imagine hating WVU so much that you left them out of the conference with their historic rivalries.

The ACC already did that.

Some of the older posters [myself included] may remember the former Metro Conference. They did a study with Raycom Sports in 1989/90 for an expanded Metro Conference [Super Conference - Metro/A10/BE] footprint...

North Division
Boston College
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

South Division
East Carolina
Florida State
Louisville
Memphis State
Miami
South Carolina
Southern Mississippi
Tulane

I believe Joe Paterno was advocating for an eastern football-centric conference around the same time but it was a smaller pool of teams than those listed above. The Raycom version would've been a great conference for both football and hoops IMO.

Big Ten: Cincinnati, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

SEC: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

ACC: Boston College, Central Florida, Connecticut, Duke, Kentucky, Louisville, Maryland, Miami, North Carolina, NC State, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest

Pac "14": Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, California, Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Texas Tech, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State

Big 12: Baylor, Houston, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, TCU, Texas A&M, West Virginia

Someone had to be in the Pac and the only other switch I could have done would be Texas Tech and (gulp) West Virginia.

(03-25-2023 05:38 PM)schmolik Wrote:  Big Ten: Cincinnati, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

Where do I sign? Ohio State would have to be paid a Caesar's Tribute to make that possible.

(03-25-2023 11:45 AM)UpStreamRedTeam Wrote:  I was trying to find 3 more teams to expand the SEC to 24 with from a different thread and couldn’t do it. Instead I created 8 Ten team all sports conferences. The conference champs and top 8 at large make the playoffs.
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Interesting choices.

Let me see if I can come up with something similar that I'd like.

Well, here's 7 of 11 each. Add in the Sunbelt, MAC, MWC, and C-USA, and there would be 11 groups. Or just add in the 3 service academies for football, and it's 80.

Dunno why the number 11 - just sounded fun : )

Big10
Miami, Pittsburgh, Penn State, Rutgers, Syracuse
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Purdue

Big8
Colorado, Illinois, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin

SWC
Arkansas, Baylor, BYU, Houston, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, SMU, TCU, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech

SEC
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

ACC
Clemson, Duke, East Carolina, Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forrest

Big East
Boston College, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Louisville, Memphis, South Florida, Southern Mississippi, Temple, Tulane, UConn, West Virginia

PAC-10
Arizona, Arizona State, California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford. UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington State

I love it when people continue to keep bringing up going back to regional lineups and then put in stipulations that make those types of lineups impossible to implement.

1. Anything that puts the Domers in a conference is a No Go for them (and also for those who are tired of hearing them talk about not wanting to put football in a conference).

2. If you're not factoring in rivalries (including those that cross regional lines [like USC-Notre Dame]) then you will never do it right.

3. No conference is going to voluntarily demote themselves to go back to strict regionalism.

4. If you are willing to ditch playing programs 50 miles from you and prefer to play programs 500 miles from you then you can't complain about not playing regional opponents.

5. As long as programs all over the country want to chase the dream of FBS glory then realignment will not die.

(03-26-2023 12:04 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  I love it when people continue to keep bringing up going back to regional lineups and then put in stipulations that make those types of lineups impossible to implement.

What part of the word "ideal" in the OP's title did you miss?