(03-23-2023 10:01 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:41 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 07:12 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  The current president has a similar background. What has Jordan been convicted of exactly and do you have evidence that he turned his back because there are differing stories regarding this not to mention the students were grown men. You certainly don't hold yourself to the same standards regarding accusations as you try to hold others to.

I believe the students over a slimeball like Gym...you can believe Gym if you like.

Six former wrestlers say Rep. Jim Jordan knew about abusive OSU doctor

There were also some of them that said he didn't. Either way it's a he said/he said and again they were grown men.

With all due respect, their age doesn't mean jack ****.

Actually it does Tom but as a leftists I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

They were college kids...they had a coach and others who should have been looking out for them...they came forward and reported things to them...and Gym reportedly ignored their pleas.

Do I really need to remind everyone again how hard it is for males of any age to come forward and admit abuse at the hands of another man?

(03-23-2023 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 10:01 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:41 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I believe the students over a slimeball like Gym...you can believe Gym if you like.

Six former wrestlers say Rep. Jim Jordan knew about abusive OSU doctor

There were also some of them that said he didn't. Either way it's a he said/he said and again they were grown men.

With all due respect, their age doesn't mean jack ****.

Actually it does Tom but as a leftists I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

They were college kids...they had a coach and others who should have been looking out for them...they came forward and reported things to them...and Gym reportedly ignored their pleas.

Do I really need to remind everyone again how hard it is for males of any age to come forward and admit abuse at the hands of another man?

You can keep saying they were college kid all you want. Doesn't change the fact they were adult males and Jordan was an assistant coach not the head coach yet somehow you hold him more responsible for the alleged incident and state it as fact that Jordan knew about it when that is not a fact only your opinion.
Male children yes, adult athletes not so much.

(03-23-2023 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   They were college kids...they had a coach and others who should have been looking out for them...they came forward and reported things to them...and Gym reportedly ignored their pleas.

The key word in your comment here is 'reportedly'.

I have no idea if it happened or not, but neither do you... yet you're drawing conclusions about someone's character to the point of DISMISSING something that cen be verified (or not) based on an allegation.

Yeah, that's what intelligent people do....

(03-23-2023 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   They were college kids...they had a coach and others who should have been looking out for them...they came forward and reported things to them...and Gym reportedly ignored their pleas.

Exactly who reported exactly what to Jordan? I don't know, and neither do you.

Also, Jordan was a student assistant coach while attending grad school. Exactly how much power or influence do you think he had? And how do you know that he ignored anything?

Garland is a vindictive Munchkin elf that likes to attack the innocent from his throne of absolute power at DOJ. Thus the attacks on parents protesting the BS the public schools try to foist on the local citizens.

Didn't Obama/Schumer try to sell Garland as a moderate when he was nominated for the SC? lol

(03-23-2023 09:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Didn't Obama/Schumer try to sell Garland as a moderate when he was nominated for the SC? lol

Yes they did….

The best thing, perhaps the only thing, McConnell has done in his nearly 40 years in the Senate refusing to bring that nomination to the floor for a vote.

(03-23-2023 11:37 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   They were college kids...they had a coach and others who should have been looking out for them...they came forward and reported things to them...and Gym reportedly ignored their pleas.

The key word in your comment here is 'reportedly'.

I have no idea if it happened or not, but neither do you... yet you're drawing conclusions about someone's character to the point of DISMISSING something that cen be verified (or not) based on an allegation.

Yeah, that's what intelligent people do....

Prog filth are usually the champions of groomers. Maybe some are cultivating morals. I suspect politically motivated false rage, but thats just me.

Nothing says you are hoodwinked moron more than typing out the word "Gym".

(03-23-2023 09:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:41 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 07:12 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 05:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Bark? Dude, it's a laugh. It's a Gym Jordan production. He's worthless. Been in congress for years and has yet to have even ONE piece of legislation signed. The ONLY thing he's done is turn the other way while students at O$U were abused.

The current president has a similar background. What has Jordan been convicted of exactly and do you have evidence that he turned his back because there are differing stories regarding this not to mention the students were grown men. You certainly don't hold yourself to the same standards regarding accusations as you try to hold others to.

I believe the students over a slimeball like Gym...you can believe Gym if you like.

Six former wrestlers say Rep. Jim Jordan knew about abusive OSU doctor

There were also some of them that said he didn't. Either way it's a he said/he said and again they were grown men.

With all due respect, their age doesn't mean jack ****.

What is, 'Things said at a NAMBLA meeting' Alex

(03-23-2023 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   They were college kids...they had a coach and others who should have been looking out for them...they came forward and reported things to them...and Gym reportedly ignored their pleas.

Exactly who reported exactly what to Jordan? I don't know, and neither do you.

Also, Jordan was a student assistant coach while attending grad school. Exactly how much power or influence do you think he had? And how do you know that he ignored anything?

Unsure power and influence, but several former wrestlers said he knew. Now is that truth or not, no idea as it will never be adjudicated.

(03-24-2023 10:23 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 10:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:   They were college kids...they had a coach and others who should have been looking out for them...they came forward and reported things to them...and Gym reportedly ignored their pleas.

Exactly who reported exactly what to Jordan? I don't know, and neither do you.
Also, Jordan was a student assistant coach while attending grad school. Exactly how much power or influence do you think he had? And how do you know that he ignored anything?

Unsure power and influence, but several former wrestlers said he knew. Now is that truth or not, no idea as it will never be adjudicated.

Is that because he knew and they know he knew, or is that because they are democrats?

At this point I do not see any pretense of honesty anywhere that politics are involved.