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RE: Roster for next year
(03-21-2023 06:53 PM)rolexjames Wrote: (03-21-2023 08:57 AM)memtigbb Wrote: (03-21-2023 08:52 AM)holyterror Wrote: (03-21-2023 08:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote: (03-21-2023 08:34 AM)Keith24 Wrote: No one is going to shy away because there are Memphis guys on the team or Penny’s sons.
Penny is going to put together a very good and competitive roster.
You do realize while Alo was on the roster MEMPHIS never signed a real PG until KD came in as a transfer senior - and that before Alo decided to come back. You are naive to think kids don't look at PT as their number one consideration.
Plus, Penny said himself that one reason he went after KD was to lure DeAndre back for another year.
There are things I worry about. Penny’s ability to spot, land, and develop talent is not one of them.
Just out of curiosity, who would you say Penny has developed? It is becoming a growing concern with me. Deandre and KD transfered in playing at a high lvl. The players who have been with Penny the longest (Malco and ALo) havent improved very much from the first time they stepped onto the court wearing Memphis uniforms. Other guys transferred out and didnt really show much while they were here.
I am not saying he cant develop talent, but so far I dont think there have been many examples of Penny developing a player.
Precious was better at the end of the year, so was Duren, so was KD. Chandler, Alo, Malcolm has gotten better than their freshman year. Look at Malcolm's free throw shooting, his faceup jumper was money. Jeremiah Martin was playing better at the end of the year.
You’re right, Mr. Rolex
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-21-2023 06:45 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote: We need a veteran ball handler and guard
We need a consistent knock down shooter
We need a physical big
None of those guys have to be studs but we need those roles filled.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
I agree, perhaps Pennys most important signing
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
Agree. Larry Brown is a legend but was probably past his advising prime. Haith is in his prime.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-21-2023 08:52 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: (03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
I agree, perhaps Pennys most important signing
I always like Frank Haith.. He is been a plus to the team.. If Penny ever leave Memphis.. Frank Haith can coach the Tigers.. I have no doubt about it.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-20-2023 11:11 AM)Keith24 Wrote: (03-20-2023 09:54 AM)memtigbb Wrote: (03-19-2023 05:25 PM)Keith24 Wrote: (03-19-2023 05:18 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: All I ask is if he needs to create space, that he has his sons to walk on instead of running someone off to create an open scholarship.
You sound like the president of the Josh Pastner fan club.
So that MSU guy that finds problems with every single post and starts fights with every single person on the board gets banned and now a new guy pops up that finds problems with every single post and trying to start fights with every single person....
hrm... scratch my head....
anyone else notice how good the board has been lately pre-thisguy showing up?
First off, I haven’t tried to fight with anyone. I made a comment about how well Penny has done. Then instantly one person makes a wise crack about how fans act like Penny hung the moon. He made that comment in a posting started by someone saying “thank you to Penny”, which is low class. I then respectfully disagreed with his takes. I didn’t call him names. I’ve only posted like 9 times. Your claim that I’m trying to fight with everyone is a lie, totally false. I believe I’ve only responded to three people in total. You being the third one.
The claim that I am someone else, such as the MSU person is absurd. I am not him. I am Keith. You only accuse me of being another person because you don’t like what I have posted here. Probably if I came here to post negative stuff about Penny, you would like it. With your response to me here, it seems clear that you do not like Penny. Which you are free to do. I have no desire to fight with you or anyone else. Yes, I did make a wise crack to that one guy, saying to him that he must be the president of the Josh Pastner fan club. But that doesn’t equate to me wanting to fight with everyone here.
I simply joined this message board because I love the Tigers.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-22-2023 12:39 AM)passat25 Wrote: (03-21-2023 08:52 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: (03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
I agree, perhaps Pennys most important signing
I always like Frank Haith.. He is been a plus to the team.. If Penny ever leave Memphis.. Frank Haith can coach the Tigers.. I have no doubt about it.
Uh let’s not go that far
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-22-2023 07:36 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (03-22-2023 12:39 AM)passat25 Wrote: (03-21-2023 08:52 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: (03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
I agree, perhaps Pennys most important signing
I always like Frank Haith.. He is been a plus to the team.. If Penny ever leave Memphis.. Frank Haith can coach the Tigers.. I have no doubt about it.
Uh let’s not go that far
Yep, that seems like a bit of a stretch. He is a good coach to help mentor Penny but replace him? Idk about that. Hopefully Penny isn't going anywhere for a long, long time.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-22-2023 10:16 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: (03-22-2023 07:36 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (03-22-2023 12:39 AM)passat25 Wrote: (03-21-2023 08:52 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: (03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
I agree, perhaps Pennys most important signing
I always like Frank Haith.. He is been a plus to the team.. If Penny ever leave Memphis.. Frank Haith can coach the Tigers.. I have no doubt about it.
Uh let’s not go that far
Yep, that seems like a bit of a stretch. He is a good coach to help mentor Penny but replace him? Idk about that. Hopefully Penny isn't going anywhere for a long, long time.
Kind of figure Penny will stay through Ashton's 4 years. Will be interesting to see how much further he goes than that. Certainly hard to imagine he needs the money and the headaches!
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RE: Roster for next year
Toxic positivity is just as bad as toxic negativity.
Extreme heat or cold will kill you just the same.
For some reason, people who are overly positive always think they have the moral high ground but they don't.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-22-2023 10:49 AM)bluebacker Wrote: Toxic positivity is just as bad as toxic negativity.
Extreme heat or cold will kill you just the same.
For some reason, people who are overly positive always think they have the moral high ground but they don't.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-21-2023 10:57 PM)presskh Wrote: (03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
Agree. Larry Brown is a legend but was probably past his advising prime. Haith is in his prime.
Frank Haith has taken 3 different programs to the NCAA Tourney with a career record of 343–237 (.591) and a 30 win season to boot. Gotta keep that guy around to help Penny and the team.
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RE: Roster for next year
No surprise, David Tubek decommits.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-26-2023 09:35 PM)dwash Wrote: No surprise, David Tubek decommits.
No idea who this kid is.. but he is a 3 star forward... Wonder why???
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-26-2023 09:35 PM)dwash Wrote: No surprise, David Tubek decommits.
Our 247 score went from 66.13 to 66.12 on the news.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-26-2023 11:29 PM)passat25 Wrote: (03-26-2023 09:35 PM)dwash Wrote: No surprise, David Tubek decommits.
No idea who this kid is.. but he is a 3 star forward... Wonder why???
I think he's the 3* guy Nascar guy eviscerated Penny for signing in the first place.
Never said anything about the 4&5* signees.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-22-2023 09:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 10:57 PM)presskh Wrote: (03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
Agree. Larry Brown is a legend but was probably past his advising prime. Haith is in his prime.
Frank Haith has taken 3 different programs to the NCAA Tourney with a career record of 343–237 (.591) and a 30 win season to boot. Gotta keep that guy around to help Penny and the team.
Haith is a smart man. He stayed ahead of the posse for a long time. He seemed to wear out his welcome everywhere he went. But Penny likes him and that’s what matters
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-27-2023 09:01 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (03-22-2023 09:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 10:57 PM)presskh Wrote: (03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
Agree. Larry Brown is a legend but was probably past his advising prime. Haith is in his prime.
Frank Haith has taken 3 different programs to the NCAA Tourney with a career record of 343–237 (.591) and a 30 win season to boot. Gotta keep that guy around to help Penny and the team.
Haith is a smart man. He stayed ahead of the posse for a long time. He seemed to wear out his welcome everywhere he went. But Penny likes him and that’s what matters
If nothing else keeping Haith keeps him from beating us with that zone.
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RE: Roster for next year
(03-22-2023 12:39 AM)passat25 Wrote: (03-21-2023 08:52 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: (03-21-2023 07:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: (03-21-2023 11:15 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I will say every player improves on defense under Penny. Not only as individuals, but learning to play individual man to man defense in a team defense. No doubt, not only Penny but having Larry Brown here had to have real effects. I have heard all the players talking about their improvement while learning from Penny. At the same time, on the offensive end, so far (to me) most of the players havent seemed to have improved much over their time here. Unfortunately, because of the transfer situation and other reasons, we havent had many players who started out getting minutes as a freshman and stayed here through their eligibility to see the payoffs.
the team looks better with Frank Haith as 1st asst IMHO...keep that guy around.
I agree, perhaps Pennys most important signing
I always like Frank Haith.. He is been a plus to the team.. If Penny ever leave Memphis.. Frank Haith can coach the Tigers.. I have no doubt about it.
Can he recruit
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