(03-18-2023 11:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: This is the 1st of several indictments. Georgia is soon to drop & then, at least, one federal indictment from Jack Smith.
Want to make sig bet on jail time? This guy has a tougher coat of Teflon than Reagan.
I have no idea how a jury would see these cases, yet I think it would be next to impossible to find a jury without, at least one, juror sympathetic to Trump & the MAGA movement, and thats all it would take for a hung jury.
(03-18-2023 11:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: This is the 1st of several indictments. Georgia is soon to drop & then, at least, one federal indictment from Jack Smith.
Want to make sig bet on jail time? This guy has a tougher coat of Teflon than Reagan.
I have no idea how a jury would see these cases, yet I think it would be next to impossible to find a jury without, at least one, juror sympathetic to Trump & the MAGA movement, and thats all it would take for a hung jury.
Thats a no. Stupid prog filth. Cant you come up with somtheing new.
The Bidens* mist be in deep shite to start this distraction.
(03-18-2023 11:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: This is the 1st of several indictments. Georgia is soon to drop & then, at least, one federal indictment from Jack Smith.
Want to make sig bet on jail time? This guy has a tougher coat of Teflon than Reagan.
I have no idea how a jury would see these cases, yet I think it would be next to impossible to find a jury without, at least one, juror sympathetic to Trump & the MAGA movement, and thats all it would take for a hung jury.
Thats a no. Stupid prog filth. Cant you come up with somtheing new.
The Bidens* mist be in deep shite to start this distraction.
As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.
To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.
It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective. But then again I dont know what Cohen's testimony is/ was/ will be.
To that effect, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.
Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.
(This post was last modified: 03-18-2023 12:27 PM by tanqtonic.)
As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.
To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.
It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. A much harder felony as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.
But on the backside, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.
Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.
As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.
To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.
It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. A much harder felony as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.
But on the backside, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.
Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.
As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.
To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.
It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. A much harder felony as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.
But on the backside, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.
Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.
As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.
To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.
It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. A much harder felony as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.
But on the backside, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.
Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.
As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.
To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.
It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. A much harder felony as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.
But on the backside, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.
Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.
Hell, i know he is safe now.
Im sure you do.
cya in court, honey …
Not going to see me in court, honey. Going to see Trump in court from what it sounds like.
Had Trump not rolled over on Cohen and fked Cohen to keep his ego intact, Cohen has no reason to talk about being a bagman, let alone anything re: Trump.
But, Trump being Trump did that. Again, dead fing stupid to roll the bus over your bagman at the outset in circumstances like this. Not really anywhere being bright there.
No Cohen, not even a misdemeanor case. Let alone being able to make the stretch from misdemeanor to felony.
Really flipping stupid move by Trump 3 years ago to do that.
I have zero opinion if there is a chargeable action here. But The Smartest Man in the Known World pretty much did everything he could to make it easier for the NYC DA to bring it this far.
(03-18-2023 11:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: This is the 1st of several indictments. Georgia is soon to drop & then, at least, one federal indictment from Jack Smith.
Want to make sig bet on jail time? This guy has a tougher coat of Teflon than Reagan.
I have no idea how a jury would see these cases, yet I think it would be next to impossible to find a jury without, at least one, juror sympathetic to Trump & the MAGA movement, and thats all it would take for a hung jury.
Thats a no. Stupid prog filth. Cant you come up with somtheing new.
The Bidens* mist be in deep shite to start this distraction.
(03-18-2023 12:22 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.
To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.
It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. A much harder felony as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.
But on the backside, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.
Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.
Hell, i know he is safe now.
Im sure you do.
cya in court, honey …
Not going to see me in court, honey. Going to see Trump in court from what it sounds like.
Had Trump not rolled over on Cohen and fked Cohen to keep his ego intact, Cohen has no reason to talk about being a bagman, let alone anything re: Trump.
But, Trump being Trump did that. Again, dead fing stupid to roll the bus over your bagman at the outset in circumstances like this. Not really anywhere being bright there.
No Cohen, not even a misdemeanor case. Let alone being able to make the stretch from misdemeanor to felony.
Really flipping stupid move by Trump 3 years ago to do that.
I have zero opinion if there is a chargeable action here. But The Smartest Man in the Known World pretty much did everything he could to make it easier for the NYC DA to bring it this far.
(03-18-2023 12:22 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.
To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.
It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. A much harder felony as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.
But on the backside, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.
Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.
Hell, i know he is safe now.
Im sure you do.
cya in court, honey …
Not going to see me in court, honey. Going to see Trump in court from what it sounds like.
Had Trump not rolled over on Cohen and fked Cohen to keep his ego intact, Cohen has no reason to talk about being a bagman, let alone anything re: Trump.
But, Trump being Trump did that. Again, dead fing stupid to roll the bus over your bagman at the outset in circumstances like this. Not really anywhere being bright there.
No Cohen, not even a misdemeanor case. Let alone being able to make the stretch from misdemeanor to felony.
Really flipping stupid move by Trump 3 years ago to do that.
I have zero opinion if there is a chargeable action here. But The Smartest Man in the Known World pretty much did everything he could to make it easier for the NYC DA to bring it this far.
you misunderstood … along with plenty of his many other ‘foot in mouth’ faux pas, I agree his ‘handling’ was tard … however, engaging such by the state is tard * tard … you can’t tell me you’d charge an ex president in this situation … it’s no different than cous-cous and the ‘three’ … hence, “cya in court, honey!”
nobody wins in this scenario other than the WRH fagoos and >270 + 10A … I’m even giving AM another break…
(03-18-2023 12:26 PM)shere khan Wrote: Hell, i know he is safe now.
Im sure you do.
cya in court, honey …
Not going to see me in court, honey. Going to see Trump in court from what it sounds like.
Had Trump not rolled over on Cohen and fked Cohen to keep his ego intact, Cohen has no reason to talk about being a bagman, let alone anything re: Trump.
But, Trump being Trump did that. Again, dead fing stupid to roll the bus over your bagman at the outset in circumstances like this. Not really anywhere being bright there.
No Cohen, not even a misdemeanor case. Let alone being able to make the stretch from misdemeanor to felony.
Really flipping stupid move by Trump 3 years ago to do that.
I have zero opinion if there is a chargeable action here. But The Smartest Man in the Known World pretty much did everything he could to make it easier for the NYC DA to bring it this far.
you misunderstood … along with plenty of his many other ‘foot in mouth’ faux pas, I agree his ‘handling’ was tard … however, engaging such by the state is tard * tard … you can’t tell me you’d charge an ex president in this situation … it’s no different than cous-cous and the ‘three’ … hence, “cya in court, honey!”
nobody wins in this scenario other than the WRH fagoos and >270 + 10A … I’m even giving AM another break…
Trump was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Cohen charges.
Look, I am agnostic about Trump being charged overall. I dont have an issue with the scenario being charged as a misdemeanor -- seems on point with previous applications of the statute.
I think it is a stretch to do a felony charge. But Trump helped them immeasurably by doing his roll the bus over Cohen. Not smart. Pretty stupid.
In short, I dont think an 'ex-president' should or shouldnt be charged simply because they are an ex-president. I think a decision to charge should be based on whether there is probable cause to charge based on the facts, notwithstanding who it is.
(03-18-2023 12:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: Im sure you do.
cya in court, honey …
Not going to see me in court, honey. Going to see Trump in court from what it sounds like.
Had Trump not rolled over on Cohen and fked Cohen to keep his ego intact, Cohen has no reason to talk about being a bagman, let alone anything re: Trump.
But, Trump being Trump did that. Again, dead fing stupid to roll the bus over your bagman at the outset in circumstances like this. Not really anywhere being bright there.
No Cohen, not even a misdemeanor case. Let alone being able to make the stretch from misdemeanor to felony.
Really flipping stupid move by Trump 3 years ago to do that.
I have zero opinion if there is a chargeable action here. But The Smartest Man in the Known World pretty much did everything he could to make it easier for the NYC DA to bring it this far.
you misunderstood … along with plenty of his many other ‘foot in mouth’ faux pas, I agree his ‘handling’ was tard … however, engaging such by the state is tard * tard … you can’t tell me you’d charge an ex president in this situation … it’s no different than cous-cous and the ‘three’ … hence, “cya in court, honey!”
nobody wins in this scenario other than the WRH fagoos and >270 + 10A … I’m even giving AM another break…
Trump was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Cohen charges.
Look, I am agnostic about Trump being charged overall. I dont have an issue with the scenario being charged as a misdemeanor -- seems on point with previous applications of the statute.
I think it is a stretch to do a felony charge. But Trump helped them immeasurably by doing his roll the bus over Cohen. Not smart. Pretty stupid.
In short, I dont think an 'ex-president' should or shouldnt be charged simply because they are an ex-president. I think a decision to charge should be based on whether there is probable cause to charge based on the facts, notwithstanding who it is.
(03-18-2023 12:29 PM)stinkfist Wrote: cya in court, honey …
Not going to see me in court, honey. Going to see Trump in court from what it sounds like.
Had Trump not rolled over on Cohen and fked Cohen to keep his ego intact, Cohen has no reason to talk about being a bagman, let alone anything re: Trump.
But, Trump being Trump did that. Again, dead fing stupid to roll the bus over your bagman at the outset in circumstances like this. Not really anywhere being bright there.
No Cohen, not even a misdemeanor case. Let alone being able to make the stretch from misdemeanor to felony.
Really flipping stupid move by Trump 3 years ago to do that.
I have zero opinion if there is a chargeable action here. But The Smartest Man in the Known World pretty much did everything he could to make it easier for the NYC DA to bring it this far.
you misunderstood … along with plenty of his many other ‘foot in mouth’ faux pas, I agree his ‘handling’ was tard … however, engaging such by the state is tard * tard … you can’t tell me you’d charge an ex president in this situation … it’s no different than cous-cous and the ‘three’ … hence, “cya in court, honey!”
nobody wins in this scenario other than the WRH fagoos and >270 + 10A … I’m even giving AM another break…
Trump was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Cohen charges.
Look, I am agnostic about Trump being charged overall. I dont have an issue with the scenario being charged as a misdemeanor -- seems on point with previous applications of the statute.
I think it is a stretch to do a felony charge. But Trump helped them immeasurably by doing his roll the bus over Cohen. Not smart. Pretty stupid.
In short, I dont think an 'ex-president' should or shouldnt be charged simply because they are an ex-president. I think a decision to charge should be based on whether there is probable cause to charge based on the facts, notwithstanding who it is.
We agree
The fact that you have leave off an entire paragraph of opinion and reasoning to get your jack-ss comment speaks loads to you.
You continuously raise the 'jacktard' level bar to new heights. Bravo.
What a pud. Lolz.
Lot of e-peen empty ******* ad-hom talk from Tigger, zero substance. Yeah, that is different. (sarcasm mode off)
(This post was last modified: 03-18-2023 02:21 PM by tanqtonic.)
In response to Trump's call for protests I wonder how many people will show up and in how many cities. Thousands flooding the streets across the country?
Trumpy Dumpty"s latest truth social appeal for protest
(03-18-2023 02:37 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote: In response to Trump's call for protests I wonder how many people will show up and in how many cities. Thousands flooding the streets across the country?
Trumpy Dumpty"s latest truth social appeal for protest
Well, most Trump supporters actually work so it wont be like the prog filth deadbeat instant burn and loot riots.
Trump needs to schedule it
All you Ukraine knob slobbers should support secession when the country starts to split. You know, people have the right to govern themselves. Maybe Russia will send money.
(This post was last modified: 03-18-2023 02:56 PM by shere khan.)