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(03-18-2023 10:32 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  
(03-18-2023 09:16 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-18-2023 08:46 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  Two plays that haunted me all night and still haunted me this morning. First, McCadden’s stupid technical foul. Cost us possession of the ball and 2 points. Second, Davis’s careless pass directly to FAU with less than 11 seconds to go in the game.

Disappointing end to a fun season.

Go Tigers!

Yep

Mccadden is dumber than dirt. You don’t get baited into that in any game, much less an NCAA tournament. Just stupid. He’s had a nice game or 2 here and there, but him and Franklin both are mid major talent that a program like Memphis didn’t need to waste a scholarship on. I get it that the ncaa stuff was hanging over their heads, and had LQ and Akot been here, neither of those 2 would have been. It is what it is.

The Dandridge/ Davis thing doesn’t bother me all that much. Might have been a bad look but teammates bicker all the time and occasionally it turns physical. It’s just that 95% of the time it isn’t seen by fans because it’s in a locker room or at practice.

Still no idea wtf Davis was doing on that pass. If we’re about to get a 10 sec violation, call a timeout. But then again, there’s no guarantee one will be granted even when looking right at the official and gesturing for one. That’s evident from last night.

Shttty way to end the season against a lesser team. Get some more dawgs in the portal, add to a top 5 class, tell the duds on this roster (kao, Dandridge, lawsons) to hit the road and lastly Penny and staff need to start coaching every game in Kill Mode. Enough with these crap teams hanging around and having 1 or 2 bite you (UCF, Tulane, Seton Hall, FAU). Let’s get back to blowing teams off the court

McCadden was one of the first transfers to sign. McCadden sighed before Akot, and before LQ left. Had LQ or Akot stayed, Franklin would not be here, but McCadden would be on the team, albeit in a lesser role.

Penny didn’t want LQ back. So we get Kennedy instead. LQ on this team would’ve been huge.

There was all sorts of drama last season. Internecine feuds at all levels (players and assistants). Toppert and Larry Brown were team LQ
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(03-18-2023 09:19 AM)dwash Wrote:  
(03-18-2023 09:10 AM)Dynamos Wrote:  
(03-18-2023 08:46 AM)RCM1029 Wrote:  Two plays that haunted me all night and still haunted me this morning. First, McCadden’s stupid technical foul. Cost us possession of the ball and 2 points. Second, Davis’s careless pass directly to FAU with less than 11 seconds to go in the game.

Disappointing end to a fun season.

Go Tigers!

Davis looked like a middle school player on that one. Stopped his dribble for no reason, jumped to make the pass and tried to throw it across court laterally. Just bad

He was hurt. Your mind is trained to be two or three steps ahead of where he was once he took off and when that didnt happen you panic. It would be like a player used to playing slower teams and then suddenly getting full court pressure from a much faster team. Mental shock.

When Davis injured his ankle, it was basically the game. You could tell he was only able to go half speed. On a healthy ankle, he would have blown past everybody and FAU would have been forced to foul. Davis was majorly hobbled and still tried to go so I don’t see the point in ragging on Davis as some posters are doing. He tried to go but just didn’t have it. Memphis would not have even made the Tournament without Davis on the team.
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(03-18-2023 08:23 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Freshman can be really good when surrounded by experienced upperclassmen leadership.

Will the Tigers have any real leadership on the court next year or is it going to be pretty much a complete turnover of the roster?

We are going to have to bring in some veteran transfers. Will Dandridge be our most veteran player?

Here is that video of Mikey Williams stepping on a players arm :

https://youtu.be/MwyWXofStDM
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(03-18-2023 11:31 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  
(03-18-2023 08:23 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Freshman can be really good when surrounded by experienced upperclassmen leadership.

Will the Tigers have any real leadership on the court next year or is it going to be pretty much a complete turnover of the roster?

We are going to have to bring in some veteran transfers. Will Dandridge be our most veteran player?

Here is that video of Mikey Williams stepping on a players arm :

https://youtu.be/MwyWXofStDM

Rebuilding chemistry / roles on a team takes time when the roster completely changes. It feels like next season will be a step back but we will have to see.....
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RE: The most immature mature team
obvious difference of players on display in UT/Duke game

UT getting hosed by all the phantom Duke flops, falls, fake rough housing

UT doesn't lose control, they just play harder

Not sure how you get players like that, or if it's coaching, or what.

Are players born mentally tough or taught it?
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(03-18-2023 02:18 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  obvious difference of players on display in UT/Duke game

UT getting hosed by all the phantom Duke flops, falls, fake rough housing

UT doesn't lose control, they just play harder

Not sure how you get players like that, or if it's coaching, or what.

Are players born mentally tough or taught it?

Hate to give Barnes credit but coaching plays a big role IMO
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RE: The most immature mature team
F Barnes and their entire garbage basketball program. Still won’t make a F4 this season
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I’m glad Penny puts up with the BS of our fans. We have some knuckleheads who double as rocket scientists.

Rough one. We don’t need our fans and “fans” to compound a tough loss. A loss that included a BS 1-sided tech, a missed TO called by 2 players and a coach (by all 3 refs), and at least a dozen others.

KD missed 2 FT. I bet he hasn’t missed 2 in one game ever. Does that mean he fell apart? No. KD is a great Tiger that provided a phenomenal season. He was HUGE in beating Houston and sending them to Big12 all butt-hurt about losing AAC title.

DeAndre has been a great Tiger! His energy and character have been catalysts for this team’s chemistry and play!

Keonte has played well! He just did something stupid after being frustrated. Ever happen to you?

ALo gave this team everything he had. Never held back. He loves this team and this city. And some of us crap on his name constantly. Shame on some of us!

Dandridge has battled through injuries and development. He’s grown tremendously as both a man and a player. We saw how needed he is.

Both Lawsons are growing into FINE players. I hope they both stay and continue to work hard!

McCadden played his @ss off!! Glad he joined Tiger Nation! Yesterday wasn’t his night. Sometimes they pop, sometimes they don’t - shots that is. But his defense, rebounding and pure hustle were stellar!

How much has Jayden grown?! Are you kidding me?! Astronomical growth. He has huge impact now.

Kao and Damaria, thanks for becoming Tigers! Hope you enjoyed playing as much as I enjoyed watching you!!!

Great great great coaching staff. Frank Haith takes schools with poor support and funding and competes with major programs. His leadership is awesome! Faragi brings so much!! Dorsey VOLUNTEERING to help!!

And the man who brings everyone together, lifts them up and ignites the fire that creates so much growth and development….the son of Memphis…..PENNY!! So grateful for all his hard work. Would be easy to play golf and enjoy life. Thanks for being awesome Coach!!

And for anyone that can’t acknowledge the positive attributes of these fine men, shame on you! This loss was hard for us fans. Harder for these guys who have put every ounce of energy into 1 thing - basketball. I’ve enjoyed watching their growth. I just KNEW this was going to be a fun tournament for us. I’m bummed. But d@#$ what a fun ride it was! All the way to the bitter end!!
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Barnes couldn’t win in the Rd of 32 with Durant. Barely beat 13 seed in Rd 1. F Barnes.

He is 26-26 all time in NCAA Tournament with phenomenal talent.

He’s nothing! Glad UT has him. They’re both overrated. Great NCAA marriage!
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(03-18-2023 03:07 PM)gusrob Wrote:  Barnes couldn’t win in the Rd of 32 with Durant. Barely beat 13 seed in Rd 1. F Barnes.

He is 26-26 all time in NCAA Tournament with phenomenal talent.

He’s nothing! Glad UT has him. They’re both overrated. Great NCAA marriage!

I can't stand them or him but they're mandhandling Duke in the second round and we lost to Florida Atlantic.
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At the end of this tournament, Tennessee will still have been to the final 4 less times than George Mason U
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(03-18-2023 03:07 PM)gusrob Wrote:  Barnes couldn’t win in the Rd of 32 with Durant. Barely beat 13 seed in Rd 1. F Barnes.

He is 26-26 all time in NCAA Tournament with phenomenal talent.

He’s nothing! Glad UT has him. They’re both overrated. Great NCAA marriage!

I don’t think he has been a great coach. However this UT team is really well coached. Probably an easy path to the elite 8 if they beat Duke
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(03-18-2023 08:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think we had a number of guys who transferred here for “this moment” & the moment was just too big. They stood around on offense… they made assignments mistakes on defense… they made dumb passes they’d never make in the regular season… & then they fought amongst each other which we never saw this season. This should have been a relatively easy win, yet FAU is a team that won 30+ games & they found a way to fall into a win that we didn’t appear ready to take . We should be playing on Sunday but instead we lost another game at the wire. I have no doubt, had we won last night, this team would have settled in and made a deep run, & thats why this one hurts so much.

I agree.
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Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk
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(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Agree. This loss was due to boneheaded plays from the players in the closing minutes, not Penny’s fault.
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(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?
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(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?
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(03-18-2023 09:57 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Davis still had :04 to get across half court when he threw the ball away. Could’ve just thrown ahead to Jr who was wide open.

That was the play, no one even close to Jayden
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(03-18-2023 08:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think we had a number of guys who transferred here for “this moment” & the moment was just too big. They stood around on offense… they made assignments mistakes on defense… they made dumb passes they’d never make in the regular season… & then they fought amongst each other which we never saw this season. This should have been a relatively easy win, yet FAU is a team that won 30+ games & they found a way to fall into a win that we didn’t appear ready to take . We should be playing on Sunday but instead we lost another game at the wire. I have no doubt, had we won last night, this team would have settled in and made a deep run, & thats why this one hurts so much.
02-13-banana02-13-banana FAU did not fall into a win. It was given to them by the officials. We were up by one and had the control of the ball on a scramble and numerous players called a time out with five seconds to play but the stupid damn refs ignored
the time out calls and gave the ball to FAU which allowed them to make a winning last second shot. They also went back and reviewed a shot earlier that FAU made that was initially called a two point shot but changed it to a three pointer. You can not tell me that the NCAA did not want an upstart unknown small team to advance at our expense to increase viewership of the tournament. SAD 03-weeping03-weeping03-weeping
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(03-18-2023 09:04 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-18-2023 07:32 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike’s glad Penny chucked the plastic bottle,
Ike would of too, after the bone head decisions some of his players made to cost him the game and a dance with utk

Cost HIM the game????

I think the problem is clear.

You can't lead others without self-discipline and maturity.

The bottle throw showed a lack of both.

If he's going to win the big one he has to build self-discipline and maturity.

Until people hold him accountable for his actions it's not going to change.

A team takes on the character of its coach.

Ever think that the reason the team made the mistakes at key moments is because they have the same control issues as Penny?

Just for clarity sake. So the guy that many complain doesn't get upset enough on the sideline, doesn't cuss out the refs or players enough, is to calm, has control issues? Just asking a question.
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