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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-17-2023 05:00 PM)CollegeMan33 Wrote: Covid year should not count against the 13 scholarships. I will not be surprised if Huskies lose some other guys to other MAC schools. Next year’s likely MAC NCAA tournament team Kent St, Akron, Ohio or Toledo not NIU. I wish Burno look this is a big lift!
Fortunately, all you have to do is win the conference tournament and, finishing top 4 or 5 probably has a reasonable shot at winning the thing on any given year.
2023: #2 Kent State
2022: #4 Akron
2021: #5 Ohio
2019: #1 Buffalo
2018: #1 Buffalo
2017: #1 Akron
2016: #3 Buffalo
2015: #1 CMU
2014: #1 WMU
2013: #1 Akron
Hmmm...seems like the new format may make it harder for the top seed to win as the top 2 seeds used to get a bye into the semifinals and now they all have to win 3 games to win it. Actually, 2016 was the first year where the top seeds had to win 3 games and since then, over half of the winners have been non-#1 seeds . And since the most recent change (no campus play-ins) all 3 have been non-#1 seeds.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
I skimmed the portal list and found 3 players that NIU has shown interest in.
Chandler Turner 6’7” senior forward from Bowling Green. This would be a good get. He is a strong rebounder and would shore up a weakness.
Langston Wilson 6’9” senior forward from Washington. Bench player with spotty numbers but a ton of other schools interested.
Justin Wright 6’1” shooting guard from North Carolina Central out of the MEAC. Great shooter over 40% from 3.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-17-2023 11:54 PM)pvk75 Wrote: For a conference-wide look, see Eagle66's "2023 MAC Men's Basketball Transfer Tracker" thread on the MAC bbs board.
https://www.csnbbs.com/thread-967343.html
I'm guessing that list basically comes from Verbal Commits because the other day I noticed the same thing about EJ Farmer. He's listed as tranferring from Toledo AND Western Michigan.
Unless he announced a transfer TO WMU and then almost immediately reneged and jumped ship again, I'm not certain what that's about. Either way, I also took notice of Payton Sparks transferring from Ball State for the 2nd year in a row. And...grabbing him would be a nice grab for Burno, not to mention a little payback for Tyler Cochran.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
Darweshi Hunter is now in the portal.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 12:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: Darweshi Hunter is now in the portal.
This will be his fourth school... Lol
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 01:17 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (03-23-2023 12:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: Darweshi Hunter is now in the portal.
This will be his fourth school... Lol
Wouldn't he have to sit unless he's a grad transfer?
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 04:28 PM)UnknownScout Wrote: (03-23-2023 01:17 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (03-23-2023 12:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: Darweshi Hunter is now in the portal.
This will be his fourth school... Lol
Wouldn't he have to sit unless he's a grad transfer?
I'm not aware of NCAA making anyone sit anymore plus, yes....I'm assuming he"s a grad transfer.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 05:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 04:28 PM)UnknownScout Wrote: (03-23-2023 01:17 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (03-23-2023 12:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: Darweshi Hunter is now in the portal.
This will be his fourth school... Lol
Wouldn't he have to sit unless he's a grad transfer?
I'm not aware of NCAA making anyone sit anymore plus, yes....I'm assuming he"s a grad transfer.
Current NCAA rules allow ONE transfer without sitting out. After that, unless a waiver is approved, the player must sit out one year for each transfer after the first. Obviously, this does not apply to graduate transfers.
But, yeah, I believe he is a graduate transfer.
(This post was last modified: 03-23-2023 07:01 PM by HuskieDave.)
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 06:58 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (03-23-2023 05:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 04:28 PM)UnknownScout Wrote: (03-23-2023 01:17 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (03-23-2023 12:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: Darweshi Hunter is now in the portal.
This will be his fourth school... Lol
Wouldn't he have to sit unless he's a grad transfer?
I'm not aware of NCAA making anyone sit anymore plus, yes....I'm assuming he"s a grad transfer.
Current NCAA rules allow ONE transfer without sitting out. After that, unless a waiver is approved, the player must sit out one year for each transfer after the first. Obviously, this does not apply to graduate transfers.
But, yeah, I believe he is a graduate transfer.
Tyler Cochran didn't have to sit a year to transfer to Toledo this year. Unless there's some exemption for players leaving a team that lost or fired their coach that I'm not aware of... Maybe he's a grad transfer. He played 2 years at NIU and 1 at Ball State. Maybe graduated early and transferred. I don't know. (fwiw, he's also apparently taking a medical redshirt this year after playing 10 games).
And I'm pretty sure there are other examples but I'm not sure where to look other than digging through roster after roster and I'm not all that eager to take that on right now.
Btw, I do know what the rule states and used to be but, from what I can recall, they haven't been holding anyone to that standard since the NIL and covid stuff tipped all of the leverage to the players. But, I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 07:40 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 06:58 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (03-23-2023 05:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 04:28 PM)UnknownScout Wrote: (03-23-2023 01:17 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: This will be his fourth school... Lol
Wouldn't he have to sit unless he's a grad transfer?
I'm not aware of NCAA making anyone sit anymore plus, yes....I'm assuming he"s a grad transfer.
Current NCAA rules allow ONE transfer without sitting out. After that, unless a waiver is approved, the player must sit out one year for each transfer after the first. Obviously, this does not apply to graduate transfers.
But, yeah, I believe he is a graduate transfer.
Tyler Cochran didn't have to sit a year to transfer to Toledo this year. Unless there's some exemption for players leaving a team that lost or fired their coach that I'm not aware of... Maybe he's a grad transfer. He played 2 years at NIU and 1 at Ball State. Maybe graduated early and transferred. I don't know. (fwiw, he's also apparently taking a medical redshirt this year after playing 10 games).
And I'm pretty sure there are other examples but I'm not sure where to look other than digging through roster after roster and I'm not all that eager to take that on right now.
Btw, I do know what the rule states and used to be but, from what I can recall, they haven't been holding anyone to that standard since the NIL and covid stuff tipped all of the leverage to the players. But, I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice.
Here you go. “Provided that they have not previously transferred”
https://www.si.com/college/2023/03/23/nc...er-waivers
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 10:14 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (03-23-2023 07:40 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 06:58 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (03-23-2023 05:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 04:28 PM)UnknownScout Wrote: Wouldn't he have to sit unless he's a grad transfer?
I'm not aware of NCAA making anyone sit anymore plus, yes....I'm assuming he"s a grad transfer.
Current NCAA rules allow ONE transfer without sitting out. After that, unless a waiver is approved, the player must sit out one year for each transfer after the first. Obviously, this does not apply to graduate transfers.
But, yeah, I believe he is a graduate transfer.
Tyler Cochran didn't have to sit a year to transfer to Toledo this year. Unless there's some exemption for players leaving a team that lost or fired their coach that I'm not aware of... Maybe he's a grad transfer. He played 2 years at NIU and 1 at Ball State. Maybe graduated early and transferred. I don't know. (fwiw, he's also apparently taking a medical redshirt this year after playing 10 games).
And I'm pretty sure there are other examples but I'm not sure where to look other than digging through roster after roster and I'm not all that eager to take that on right now.
Btw, I do know what the rule states and used to be but, from what I can recall, they haven't been holding anyone to that standard since the NIL and covid stuff tipped all of the leverage to the players. But, I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice.
Here you go. “Provided that they have not previously transferred”
https://www.si.com/college/2023/03/23/nc...er-waivers
Wow...very timely with that tweet/clarification.
If I'm not mistaken, this pretty much puts to rest all the teeth gnashing about a fellow like Williams transferring, right? He'd have to sit a year. But a guy like Coit or Nutter or Ibarguen could transfer because this is their first D1 school.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 10:49 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 10:14 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (03-23-2023 07:40 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 06:58 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (03-23-2023 05:23 PM)Big Red Wrote: I'm not aware of NCAA making anyone sit anymore plus, yes....I'm assuming he"s a grad transfer.
Current NCAA rules allow ONE transfer without sitting out. After that, unless a waiver is approved, the player must sit out one year for each transfer after the first. Obviously, this does not apply to graduate transfers.
But, yeah, I believe he is a graduate transfer.
Tyler Cochran didn't have to sit a year to transfer to Toledo this year. Unless there's some exemption for players leaving a team that lost or fired their coach that I'm not aware of... Maybe he's a grad transfer. He played 2 years at NIU and 1 at Ball State. Maybe graduated early and transferred. I don't know. (fwiw, he's also apparently taking a medical redshirt this year after playing 10 games).
And I'm pretty sure there are other examples but I'm not sure where to look other than digging through roster after roster and I'm not all that eager to take that on right now.
Btw, I do know what the rule states and used to be but, from what I can recall, they haven't been holding anyone to that standard since the NIL and covid stuff tipped all of the leverage to the players. But, I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice.
Here you go. “Provided that they have not previously transferred”
https://www.si.com/college/2023/03/23/nc...er-waivers
Wow...very timely with that tweet/clarification.
If I'm not mistaken, this pretty much puts to rest all the teeth gnashing about a fellow like Williams transferring, right? He'd have to sit a year. But a guy like Coit or Nutter or Ibarguen could transfer because this is their first D1 school.
I would assume Cochran qualified the second time because the BSU coach was fired. Also, they may be pretty lenient on the waivers.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-23-2023 10:51 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (03-23-2023 10:49 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 10:14 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (03-23-2023 07:40 PM)Big Red Wrote: (03-23-2023 06:58 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: Current NCAA rules allow ONE transfer without sitting out. After that, unless a waiver is approved, the player must sit out one year for each transfer after the first. Obviously, this does not apply to graduate transfers.
But, yeah, I believe he is a graduate transfer.
Tyler Cochran didn't have to sit a year to transfer to Toledo this year. Unless there's some exemption for players leaving a team that lost or fired their coach that I'm not aware of... Maybe he's a grad transfer. He played 2 years at NIU and 1 at Ball State. Maybe graduated early and transferred. I don't know. (fwiw, he's also apparently taking a medical redshirt this year after playing 10 games).
And I'm pretty sure there are other examples but I'm not sure where to look other than digging through roster after roster and I'm not all that eager to take that on right now.
Btw, I do know what the rule states and used to be but, from what I can recall, they haven't been holding anyone to that standard since the NIL and covid stuff tipped all of the leverage to the players. But, I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice.
Here you go. “Provided that they have not previously transferred”
https://www.si.com/college/2023/03/23/nc...er-waivers
Wow...very timely with that tweet/clarification.
If I'm not mistaken, this pretty much puts to rest all the teeth gnashing about a fellow like Williams transferring, right? He'd have to sit a year. But a guy like Coit or Nutter or Ibarguen could transfer because this is their first D1 school.
I would assume Cochran qualified the second time because the BSU coach was fired.
Which he wouldn't qualify if that had happened this year because it specifically says that is not a valid reason.
I think there was a lot of chaos last offseason and they were still in accommodating mode coming off of covid and they were just approving most transfers.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
The World is Ending....
Anthony Crump has hit the portal.
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(03-27-2023 12:39 PM)Big Red Wrote: The World is Ending....
Anthony Crump has hit the portal.
The graduate transfers, like Crump, don’t bother me nearly as much and the COVID year has certainly added greatly to the number of “graduated” qualifiers.
Frankly, I will be very glad when we get past the COVID year issue.
Unfortunately, though, we are ending up needing pretty much an entire “start from scratch” rebuild.
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
In college hoops these days it feels like every program needs an entire rebuild every year. Players staying anywhere more than two years seems to be going the way of the Dodo bird (extinction reference for youngsters in the crowd).
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
How did we just lose Kaleb Thornton to Akron????
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RE: Men's Hoops - State of the Program
(03-27-2023 01:22 PM)BDB5yp Wrote: How did we just lose Kaleb Thornton to Akron????
The same thing happened with Hankerson last year lol
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