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We have a top 50 recruiting class (well I see us ranked 51 by one service and 54 by another but neither of those are complete lists). We should return 5 of our top 6 players, including a top 50 nationally ranked player in Fiedler and another in Evee who probably will rank among the top 5 career active 3 point shooters in college basketball next season?

The point is we have the talent to make a 68 team field. It’s just up to the coaches to get that talent to play to its potential now. And to the fans to actually show up for games and give the team enough of a home court edge to get the wins over other potential NCAA teams.

That’s all we need.
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On the women’s front, NC State keeps losing its starters to the portal (unexpectedly?). They may have only 7 or 8 players currently on their roster for next year. I don’t know what’s going on with Wes Moores team, but I would think their fan base is starting to get worried.

Something to monitor…..
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(04-17-2023 07:07 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The point is we have the talent to make a 68 team field. It’s just up to the coaches to get that talent to play to its potential now. And to the fans to actually show up for games and give the team enough of a home court edge to get the wins over other potential NCAA teams.

I’ll add the AD needs to put together a more compelling OOC schedule to boost NET and drive ticket sales. No more St. Thomas, North American and Jarvis Christian.
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(04-18-2023 06:42 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(04-17-2023 07:07 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The point is we have the talent to make a 68 team field. It’s just up to the coaches to get that talent to play to its potential now. And to the fans to actually show up for games and give the team enough of a home court edge to get the wins over other potential NCAA teams.

I’ll add the AD needs to put together a more compelling OOC schedule to boost NET and drive ticket sales. No more St. Thomas, North American and Jarvis Christian.

UST kind of makes sense, as a private urban school literally within walking distance.

The rest don't make much sense except as exhibition games.
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Amazing. Xavier has now added Abou Ousmane, UNT's starting 5. They're now going to have a rotation that includes three C-USA transfers. Sean Miller clearly liked what he saw from the conference.
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ex-Rice Director of Player Development and former NBA the Rookie of the Year Damon Stoudamire hired to replace Josh Pastner at Georgia Tech. Also, hires ex-GW head coach Karl Hobbs as one of his assistants.
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Based on the recent posts about graduation it looks like it is confirmed that only Jackson will be back. Chrostwait was really the only question mark. Both Bellamy and Chrostwait are going to PA school, Austin is going to work at AT&T Sportsnet SW, and Stover is doing a NACDA internship.
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(05-10-2023 02:46 PM)dragon2owl Wrote:  Based on the recent posts about graduation it looks like it is confirmed that only Jackson will be back. Chrostwait was really the only question mark. Both Bellamy and Chrostwait are going to PA school, Austin is going to work at AT&T Sportsnet SW, and Stover is doing a NACDA internship.

I'm not caught up... what does this mean for our roster? Will we have additional spots opening up for next year or were these absences already accounted for?
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We might have 1 scholarship still available. Like the men, we have a walk-on who could be put on scholarship (the guard from California).

I kind of suspected that about Katelyn when we signed the UAB transfer. Plus, I think her boyfriend might have signed a free agent contract with the Bengals so it was a long shot to be sure.
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Transfer portal closed yesterday. Underclass guys who announce now have to sit out a year. Grads can still transfer immediately. But barring a last minute announcement last night, we are probably done hearing of names leaving at this point.

It might have been our best men’s transfer period ever since the portal became a thing. Yes, we lost a graduating Quincy, but we are keeping our other Big 2 seniors for a fifth year, bring back two other starters and bring in a 4 star recruit from Vandy, and two other starters besides that - one from Cal and one a shutdown perimeter defensive guy.

Conference competition remains tough but our roster is loaded and there will be pressure to get it done right away.

The women didn’t fare quite as well. Could have been worse, but it could have been better too.
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Women's roster is very weird. Which probably isn't the best adjective when your team was only "good" last year and you're trying to get to the "great" level.

Jackson and Owens-Barnett are two very capable point guards. I wouldn't be shocked if Owens-Barnett is starting next year. If she returns a tad improved in all areas, she'll be super effective. The problem is that neither was a reliable shooter, meaning their effectiveness as off-ball guards is diminished (and that they probably shouldn't be played together). That's especially true when you expect Gooden to play 20+ minutes, who herself has struggled shooting.

The non-PG guards are just a strange bunch. Ennis should be a locked-in starter and I think the expectation with her should be all-conference player. If she becomes a fraction better off the dribble, she's a super tough guard. Edmonds loves the intangibles that Gooden brings. Despite my criticisms last year, after seeing the team without her for extended stretches, I've come around and agree. She'll likely see solid minutes. But beyond those two, there are mostly questions. Not sure we can expect much from Bokunewicz beyond spot up shooting. Two serious knee injuries means whatever quickness she had will likely be gone. Clifton might be the x-factor. Unplayable at her worst, effortless scorer at her best. Needs a lot of polish and defensive coaching. Klaczek seems to be the natural replacement for Crosthwaite, but a worse version? Conley was very solid for the #24 team in Texas, both as an efficient scorer and passer. But freshmen are always unpredictable. Rickard is more of an unknown than Conley.

Fisher should see a lot more of the ball with Austin, Bellamy, and Crosthwaite gone, and will need to be much more consistent. The ability is there, she just needs to put it all together. Behind her at the 3/4 there's...nobody? Have to think with the number of guards that Clifton will get most of her minutes at the 3 and 4. Adams looked pretty lost in her limited minutes last year. Would need a massive jump to make an impact this year. Rebounding is where we might suffer here. Barring a late addition, Fisher is going to need to play 35+ minutes a game (and stay out of foul trouble, something she's struggled with). Without her on the court, I'm not sure I see lineups that won't get obliterated on the glass.

Have to expect Ngulefac to start at the 5, though Hayes will probably give her a run for her money in camp. Hayes showed enough flashes last year to warrant a look. Ngulefac should thrive in Edmonds' system. She averaged a super efficient 18.7 points per 40 last year on just 12.2 shots. Her usage should go up with how much Edmonds values the paint (meaning her percentages will likely go down, but that's fine because of how good they were last year). Unless Samb takes a massive step in the offseason, hard to imagine her getting anything but a spare minute her or there.

Summary: It's an unbalanced roster with some holes and unknowns. There are only four "forwards" on the roster. One of those, Samb, couldn't stay on the court last year. Three of the guards expected to see big minutes next year really struggled shooting the 3 (none of Jackson, Owens-Barnett, and Gooden shot better than 24%). I really think the staff needs to add another player from the portal. I'd accept a guard who can score and shoot. I'd accept a solid 4/5 that can add some rebounding and defense. I'd happily take a balanced wing that can do a little bit of everything. I think there's plenty of potential on the roster. Hayes, Clifton, Ennis, Owens-Barnett, Adams could all take massive steps. We do have a very good coaching staff. Conley and Rickard could come in like some of the freshmen this year and contribute solidly. But it's a few more "ifs" than you'd like.

Gonna do a similar post on the men in the next few days.
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Lieppert going to Minot State University in North Dakota.
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(05-15-2023 12:12 AM)dragon2owl Wrote:  Lieppert going to Minot State University in North Dakota.

H Hendrickson, an assistant coach at Pima JC when Jake was an NJCAA All-American there, moved to the Div II Minot State Beavers last June (https://pimaaztecs.com/sports/mbkb/2021-...09pkl03v). His father, Mike Hendrickson, was a Minot State basketball alum (https://msubeavers.com/sports/mens-baske...ckson/1111)

This season Minot state was 11-17 (https://msubeavers.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule) and 7-15 in the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference (https://northernsun.org/).
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The NSIC would be a pretty good hockey conference... Not so sure about basketball.
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(05-15-2023 12:12 AM)dragon2owl Wrote:  Lieppert going to Minot State University in North Dakota.

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Geron going to Montana State in the Big Sky. They have been an NCAA team the last two years but their old coach went to Utah State and their current roster is just six players. Probably has a good chance to get a lot more playing time than he did at Rice.
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Two new(?) games on the men's schedule next year. At Texas on November 15, at Houston on December 6. Texas is kind of hard to predict. They made a terrible but understandable decision hiring Rodney Terry. Ton of change to their roster. Houston will be Houston. When you add those to the solid Vegas field, it's shaping up to be a decent schedule.
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(05-12-2023 03:49 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  Women's roster is very weird. Which probably isn't the best adjective when your team was only "good" last year and you're trying to get to the "great" level.

Jackson and Owens-Barnett are two very capable point guards. I wouldn't be shocked if Owens-Barnett is starting next year. If she returns a tad improved in all areas, she'll be super effective. The problem is that neither was a reliable shooter, meaning their effectiveness as off-ball guards is diminished (and that they probably shouldn't be played together). That's especially true when you expect Gooden to play 20+ minutes, who herself has struggled shooting.

The non-PG guards are just a strange bunch. Ennis should be a locked-in starter and I think the expectation with her should be all-conference player. If she becomes a fraction better off the dribble, she's a super tough guard. Edmonds loves the intangibles that Gooden brings. Despite my criticisms last year, after seeing the team without her for extended stretches, I've come around and agree. She'll likely see solid minutes. But beyond those two, there are mostly questions. Not sure we can expect much from Bokunewicz beyond spot up shooting. Two serious knee injuries means whatever quickness she had will likely be gone. Clifton might be the x-factor. Unplayable at her worst, effortless scorer at her best. Needs a lot of polish and defensive coaching. Klaczek seems to be the natural replacement for Crosthwaite, but a worse version? Conley was very solid for the #24 team in Texas, both as an efficient scorer and passer. But freshmen are always unpredictable. Rickard is more of an unknown than Conley.

Fisher should see a lot more of the ball with Austin, Bellamy, and Crosthwaite gone, and will need to be much more consistent. The ability is there, she just needs to put it all together. Behind her at the 3/4 there's...nobody? Have to think with the number of guards that Clifton will get most of her minutes at the 3 and 4. Adams looked pretty lost in her limited minutes last year. Would need a massive jump to make an impact this year. Rebounding is where we might suffer here. Barring a late addition, Fisher is going to need to play 35+ minutes a game (and stay out of foul trouble, something she's struggled with). Without her on the court, I'm not sure I see lineups that won't get obliterated on the glass.

Have to expect Ngulefac to start at the 5, though Hayes will probably give her a run for her money in camp. Hayes showed enough flashes last year to warrant a look. Ngulefac should thrive in Edmonds' system. She averaged a super efficient 18.7 points per 40 last year on just 12.2 shots. Her usage should go up with how much Edmonds values the paint (meaning her percentages will likely go down, but that's fine because of how good they were last year). Unless Samb takes a massive step in the offseason, hard to imagine her getting anything but a spare minute her or there.

Summary: It's an unbalanced roster with some holes and unknowns. There are only four "forwards" on the roster. One of those, Samb, couldn't stay on the court last year. Three of the guards expected to see big minutes next year really struggled shooting the 3 (none of Jackson, Owens-Barnett, and Gooden shot better than 24%). I really think the staff needs to add another player from the portal. I'd accept a guard who can score and shoot. I'd accept a solid 4/5 that can add some rebounding and defense. I'd happily take a balanced wing that can do a little bit of everything. I think there's plenty of potential on the roster. Hayes, Clifton, Ennis, Owens-Barnett, Adams could all take massive steps. We do have a very good coaching staff. Conley and Rickard could come in like some of the freshmen this year and contribute solidly. But it's a few more "ifs" than you'd like.

Gonna do a similar post on the men in the next few days.

Still waiting on that men’s post.

Women’s roster is now online. It’s as we have talked about - either 14 scholarship players and one walk on (Zhang). Or perhaps she is on scholarship. In either case, I imagine we are done on the recruiting front for 2023-24. Swayze is a graduate assistant coach as I mentioned awhile ago.
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Still holding out hope that Edmonds adds another transfer, though the prospects look dim. More I look at the roster, more it feels like something is missing. It feels as if Edmonds went about the offseason as if she was in Pera's shoes, needing to replace the production of only one player. When you're replacing your three go-to scorers from an okay/good team, you kind of need to make a splash. I'm just not seeing it. Lot is going to depend on the development of last year's freshman class. Onto the men...

Big year ahead for Pera. With JK gone and a new guy coming in, and the transition to the American, I’d be shocked if an average year results in anything other than Pera being shown the door. Basic summary: like with the women, it’s an interesting roster. You look at it and see potential but also think that the offseason could’ve been just a bit better. On paper, with the number of question marks, I’m not convinced it’s enough to save Pera’s jobs. Feels a bit like one of those game shows with closed doors. It’s very possible that what’s behind the closed doors is underwhelming. But it’s also possible we might find a car.

Let’s start with the ever-present monster under the bed: defense. I don’t need to go into the numbers, because there are hundreds of posts detailing just how little improvement there’s been under Pera. Part of that is bad coaching, part of that is bad roster construction. Luckily, this year’s roster, at least on paper, is an improvement on past ones. But there are still plenty of flaws, which I’ll get into.

It’s a lot harder to break down the men’s team because positional roles mean less under Pera than some other coaches. But let’s start at the point guard. Like last year, have to imagine it’ll be Evee and Mason who have the ball in their hands the most (outside of Fiedler). Neither one is a true point guard, but they both have their virtues. Mason will be vital to the team this year. He passed the eye test with flying colors last year, but the numbers *hated* him. Most of that was down to defensive woes — we were bang average defensively with him off the court but only 8th percentile in defensive rating when he played. That’s not all that surprising for a freshman. And some of the additions this offseason should help hide him a bit on that end. But he has all the potential to become a guy who can average close to 20 a game. Just needs a bit more consistency shooting it and handling it. I don’t love Evee as *the* guy with the ball in his hands, but he’s effective off screens and we know how reliant Pera’s offense is on ball screens. Like with last year, Evee is going to need to make perimeter shots. Simple as that.

One of the big questions is what Pera does with Dawes, assuming he’s ready for minutes immediately (unknown at this point). I’m not sure Dawes has a nailed down position at the college level. He handled the ball in HS a bit as a point forward, but I can’t imagine a 6-9 freshman is going to be handed the keys to the team (and if he is, then we should be excited). He’s not going to be a spot up shooter, even if he can make shots. I didn’t see much of him in the post in his HS tape, but he’s big enough to play as a stretch 4. It’s also very possible that he’s not ready for minutes. His competition in HS was not great and he got away with a lot defensively just by being big. But on the flip side, if he’s a 20+ minute guy immediately, that raises our ceiling considerably.

Moving on to guard and wing play. Olivari is obviously the big loss. For his flaws, he was a flamethrower when hot and you don’t luck into his scoring averages. He was also a plus-plus rebounder for his position. Shelby is an unknown quantity but has the profile to replace some of Olivari’s production. He’s a deadeye shooter who saw the court in his freshman year for a decent Vanderbilt team, even if he eventually fell out of favor. Sheffield is also going to need to pick up some of the slack. He looked so much more comfortable putting the ball on the floor this year. But his shooting was streaky. Some consistency and another step handling the ball and he can average 10 PPG. Huseinovic, not much to talk about. His shooting is going to be even more important, but I haven’t quite seen the offensive package to consider him anything other than a needed jolt off the bench.

Selden and Alajiki are the two big offseason adds in my mind. Both bring good size at the wing position and both, I believe, have solid reputations as defenders. And since our paint defense is necessarily going to be bad, we need to have better point-of-attack defenders. Sheffield has been maybe our only decent guard/wing defender for the past few years. And I don’t know if that’s down to him being good defensively or just being average on a bad defensive team. Either way, Selden and Alajiki should bring immediate improvement. I vaguely recall Warren also getting plaudits in HS for his defensive work. But he played sparingly his senior season because of administrative stuff, which means he’s behind most 2023 recruits on the curve. Anybody’s guess whether he’s ready for minutes. The unknown for Selden and Alajiki is what they contribute offensively. Both strike me as “can kind of do a bit of everything, but nothing super well” type players. Alajiki was the better 3PT shooter and was consistently up against better opposition, but was not at all efficient. Selden saw more of the ball and strikes me as more confident with the ball in his hands. Both have big bodies, and I think I’ve seen clips of both backing down smaller defenders, something we could really use. The downside is that neither is really the explosive guard that you could argue we need. Outside of Mason and Evee occasionally, we’re still going to be heavily reliant on looks generated by screens, cuts, and movement. That has worked for other teams. But it’s limited our potential against certain teams basically every year.

No clue what to expect from Perkins. He’s a walk-on who isn’t really a walk-on. Getting offers from Maryland, Va Tech, and VCU, even if they were soft offers, is nothing to scoff at. Easy to be tempted by his build and profile. And it’s highly unlikely that the staff would have redshirted him if they didn’t see any potential. Bonus if he’s a contributor, especially on the defensive end. Wagner was a late add. I know very little about him. For the staff’s sake, I hope he contributes at some point. If not, it strikes me as a missed opportunity for a team that can’t really afford those.

Then we get to the bigs. Fiedler is the centerpiece, for better or worse. One of the more fascinating mid-major players in the country. Might be the best passing big man in the NCAA. We basically can’t score when he’s not on the floor. And yet he’s arguably one of the worst defensive bigs in the country and our defensive rating with him in the game is bottom 10%. In other words, we can’t sit him or we can’t score and we can’t play him or we can’t defend. Of course, there’s nuance to all of this. With better guard and wing defenders, which we should have, Fiedler’s deficiencies will be lessened. Will he still be a liability? Yes, almost certainly. But he’ll be less of a liability. And he’s going to play and dictate our offense for 30 minutes a game, so it’s not even worth considering the alternative. Akuchie showed flashes of promise last year. But for some reason I thought he was bigger coming out of HS. And he didn’t blow me away guarding the rim last year. Still, I think he’ll be a serviceable backup. And if he develops his shot and post game a bit more, he can be a starter in the long run. Ufochukwu was understandably very raw last year and saw only garbage time minutes. He’s the big on the roster with the elite defensive tools. Just a question of whether he’s got enough else to get on the court.

Verdict? Who knows, really. Decent roster. Doesn’t look worse than last year’s. Should be fun following preseason to see who’s standing out. But better competition this season and a razor thin margin.
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Why didn’t Warren play last season in HS? What were the administrative issues? Did he play AAU at least?
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