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RE: The Power Five and Group of Five labels should be discarded - Aresco Statement
(03-20-2023 05:29 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (03-20-2023 04:53 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: (03-20-2023 07:21 AM)KnightLight Wrote: (03-13-2023 01:48 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: (03-11-2023 02:51 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote: That's awesome and good luck. We've shared many good games in our history and I liked the matchups.
The term power gets me or P5. It's not a NCAA classification so I'm not sure what it means. Possibly a term for revenue? I know some will say it's for autonomy, but that door was kicked in by the higher revenue two new deals and the breaking of the alliance of the Big 10. I'm sure they want to keep the current system in place for the wins while making a lot more money than everyone else having all the advantage.
The raise is nice and congratulations, but one could argue the path to the playoff got more difficult with the move to a more difficult league.
Little ole East Carolina has been beating more advantaged P5's for years. That won't change.
this is incorrect
how is it that this issue gets discussed hundreds f times yet people still do not have a clue about it or how it came to be or what it means
P5 conferences get two votes per conference on all NCAA business affairs, rules, and regulations while G5 conferences get one
that is absolutely an NCAA classification when it comes to the most important aspects of the NCAA
in addition the other aspects of it are that the P5 conferences get 80% of the football playoff revenues (about $74 million per conference per year) while the G5 split 20% (about $95 million split between the 5)
lastly the P5 conferences all have guaranteed NY6 bowl slots.....Big 12 and sEC SEC SEC Sugar Bowl......Big 10 and PAC 12 Rose Bowl......ACC and the highest ranked team from either the Big 10 or SEC SEC SEC after their playoff team(s) and their Rose and Sugar Bowl teams
the Big 12, SEC SEC SEC, Big 10, and PAC 12 get $50 million per conference two out of every three years for those bowls and the ACC gets $26.5 million as does whichever conference (SEC SEC SEC or Big 10) sends a team to the Orange Bowl
the third year when they do not get paid are the years when those bowls are playoff bowl sites
so two of those three aspects of what makes a P5 conference will be very hard (if ever) for a G5 conference to overcome because I doubt the P5 will be voting another conference to have 2 votes on NCAA business (nor will any G5 conference unless it is their own).....and with the football playoffs the reason those P5 conferences get 80% of the revenue is because the Big 12, SEC SEC SEC, Big 10, and PAC 12 owned the major bowls (Cotton, Rose, and Sugar) that had to agree to allow their teams out of their agreements to be in those bowls in order for them to be in the playoffs
without those agreements those conferences would have continued to do things the old way, make a lot of money off of those bowl games, and the media and "polls" would have decided the football MNC
the ACC did not own the Orange Bowl, but they had strong ties to it so they got the lesser deal
now a G5 conference (or two) could conceivably get a bowl game that paid them $50 million per conference per year for two out of every three years and that played on NY day, but that seems unlikely to happen and that would still only be one of the three aspects of a P5 conference vs a G5 conference
Correct.
G5 schools "voted" to give the P5 schools DOUBLE the voting power, aka "Autonomy 5", which the SEC Commish turned into a PR spin of "Power 5"...as the G5 schools were "afraid" that the P5 Football Conferences would split away from the NCAA (I still think that was an empty threat but G5 schools/conferences fell for it).
That (Autonomy 5) will change and go the way of "The Alliance."
Do you really think a conference making $30 to $40 Million more will let someone making less tell them what to do? Really? What's the voting structure? 3 conferences can out vote the Big 2? LOL, At some point they'll be a reckoning. How did the autonomy work when the ACC and "the Alliance" held things up. Autonomy is DOA!
UNC, FSU, Clemson, UW, OU, etc could be working behind there associates back as I type. USC, UCLA, UT and OU sure did. The media didn't know squat.
Whether it's P5, Autonomy 5, Revenue 5, Jackson 5, or whatever you want to call that group, but they no longer have much in common because of the money. They'll keep allowing the little brothers crumbs as long as they stay in line. They'll make the lion share of the money plus wins is all they require of the others. It's a great system for them!
from Tomahawk Nation:
FSU athletic director Michael Alford is not tip-toeing around a soon to be untenable economic situation:
“We understand, especially at Florida State and a couple of other institutions, really understand the commitment of that gap that’s coming. It’s a freight train. That’s barreling down the tracks... I’m very involved and looking at solutions. Because I can’t sit here. And for five years, it’d be 30 million behind every year. It’s not a one-year thing. And that makes a big difference, especially when you start compounding that year after year after year.”
Alford wouldn’t say if he’s been contacted by other conferences, but he did say, without the ACC making changes, that gap will put a large burden on the fundraising arms of FSU. Alford believes falling behind in revenue could have Florida State behind the eight ball in competing for coaches, upgrading facilities and essentially everything else the “Power 2” conference would have to offer. Something else he thinks will force that gap to show up is the university’s reputation and dedication to competing in every sport.
“I need to protect Florida State University and make sure that we’re doing everything we can to make sure that we’re able to compete nationally," Alford said. "And I’m not talking just football."
Tick, tick, tick ...
It's coming and it's time for the non P2 to get smart putting their own plans together. The time for choosing is coming whether you want to or not. That separation began at the UT/OU deal and that reality really set in with the Big Ten back dooring "The Alliance" and autonomy with it! Done!
(This post was last modified: 04-01-2023 08:21 AM by Pirate Rep.)
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