(03-10-2023 05:27 PM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 05:18 PM)e-parade Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 05:13 PM)TeamRamRod1 Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 05:10 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(03-10-2023 03:30 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Right, but what I meant is that Colorado and Arizona are the ones engaging with the B12 the most. And I believe they’re the ones the B12 wants the most.

Colorado thinks the Big 12 as a junior college league. I don't see them moving to the Big 12 anytime soon.

Link?

https://coloradobuffaloeswire.usatoday.c...ent-hopes/


This was from back in July, and I believe it's what DavidSt has been referencing for months.

Here's the quote:

Quote:Here’s the kicker, I think the administration is 70-30 Pac-12. They want the money, they want the comfort, they want the politics, they want the caviar, they want the prestige, air quotes. The administration at CU views the Big 12 as a JUCO league. They don’t want to be in that. And the fans absolutely do.

So it's saying the administration wants the PAC while the fans might want the B12. But it clearly doesn't mince words on their feelings.

Quote:Denver Post columnist Sean Keeler is rarely afraid to voice his opinion and he pointed out this dilemma in a recent conversation with SicEm365 radio. Here’s what Keeler said (courtesy of Heartland College Sports):

“I would say the fan base would be 60-40 Big 12, and maybe even higher. They were burned. They feel duped by the Pac-12.”

Keeler went on to add, “Here’s the kicker, I think the administration is 70-30 Pac-12. They want the money, they want the comfort, they want the politics, they want the caviar, they want the prestige, air quotes. The administration at CU views the Big 12 as a JUCO league. They don’t want to be in that. And the fans absolutely do.”

So this is all based upon one person's off the cuff phrasing.

An interesting component of the Colorado Board of Regents is that is elected in partisan elections by (congressional) district. Republicans elected from Republican-leaning districts may have more of an affinity for the Big 12. Democrats elected from Democratic-leaning districts may have more of an affinity for the PAC-12.

Historically, migration to Colorado was from the Midwest (Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois). More recently migration has been from California and other areas, where the migration was more likely to be lifestyle-motivated.

In 2020, Democrats took control of the Board for the first time in 40 years, by a 5-4 majority. A few months later, then President Mark Kennedy was pushed out. Kennedy had been a Republican congressman from 2001 to 2007. He lost a US Senate race in 2006. He eventually became President of the University of North Dakota. He was appointed to become President of the CU system in 2019 by a 5-4 Republican board. He faced opposition because he was a former Republican congressman.

After the Democrats took control of the Board in 2020, Kennedy was pushed out after agreeing to a $1.3 million settlement. The Board did not appoint a permanent President until 2022, when they gave the interim President a permanent appointment (he had been a VP previously).

I don't know why DavidSt thinks CU would favor adding BoiseSt to the PAC when it was literally a JUCO until quite recently.

In the 70s, Coloradans hated Texans for buying up the land and driving up prices.

Since the 2000s, Coloradans have hated Californians for buying up the land and skyrocketing prices.

Dodds being pro Big 12 makes me believe the Pac will be fine. Trust Dodd at your own peril

(03-13-2023 08:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Dodds being pro Big 12 makes me believe the Pac will be fine. Trust Dodd at your own peril

I would argue there is a difference between defining Dodd as pro-B12 and understanding that he gets info from B12 sources. With any of these rumors, from any of these reporters... They are not super-sleuth's. They have connections/relationships with people who give them info for a reason. Any time we hear about this from a reliable reporter, someone has purposefully leaked this info to a reporter for their benefit. JJ Watt recently tweeted about this, albeit a different league:

So the question is who leaked the info? In Dodd's case, it was almost definitely the B12, and that is the only reason why I am interested in this tweet: This type of tweet should come at the end of the week (ending that work week on a positive PR note), not the beginning, and it is tweeted at precisely 5pm: The exact ends of the B12 time zone's first work day of the week...

At the very least, it is the B12 trying to get the comments buzzing to improve perception. With the timing, I think it is a warning shot to Harlan (who tweeted EOD Thursday) that they have other schools that could take their place.

(03-13-2023 07:35 PM)Mean Green Alum Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:28 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Dodd’s right. They’re talking. Probably going something like this….

Big 12 Commissioner: Y’all coming?

PAC Schools: Nope

Big 12 Commissioner: OK I’ll check back next week

In all honesty, his wording has changed. This and the time at which he tweeted could mean a few things:

(1) A tweet at 5p Central Monday, rehashing last weeks tweet, makes me think B12 talked to multiple candidates today.

(2) There was a change from "4C" to "Expansion Candidates". Dodds placating/trolling Harlan/Pac reporters OR

(3) B12 has expanded its search from concentrating on 4C to partial 4C and SDSU/Gonzaga/G5's. The wording change would be a shot at Harlan's statement, warning Utah that if they don't get on board, they will be replaced.

Dodd's article last week said the Big 12 was expected to get "some combination" of the Four Corners. He never said the Big 12 would get all of the Four Corners.

Dodds says these moves are expected to occur pretty soon. (Before April 17 at a minimum.) So it shouldn't be long before we see if Dodd's sources were accurate.



https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

(03-13-2023 08:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Dodds being pro Big 12 makes me believe the Pac will be fine. Trust Dodd at your own peril

Dodds went to Missouri and loves to troll the Big 12.

You are making up sh** because you don't like what he says. Makes you lose all credibility.

(03-13-2023 11:15 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:35 PM)Mean Green Alum Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:28 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Dodd’s right. They’re talking. Probably going something like this….

Big 12 Commissioner: Y’all coming?

PAC Schools: Nope

Big 12 Commissioner: OK I’ll check back next week

In all honesty, his wording has changed. This and the time at which he tweeted could mean a few things:

(1) A tweet at 5p Central Monday, rehashing last weeks tweet, makes me think B12 talked to multiple candidates today.

(2) There was a change from "4C" to "Expansion Candidates". Dodds placating/trolling Harlan/Pac reporters OR

(3) B12 has expanded its search from concentrating on 4C to partial 4C and SDSU/Gonzaga/G5's. The wording change would be a shot at Harlan's statement, warning Utah that if they don't get on board, they will be replaced.

Dodd's article last week said the Big 12 was expected to get "some combination" of the Four Corners. He never said the Big 12 would get all of the Four Corners.

Dodds says these moves are expected to occur pretty soon. (Before April 17 at a minimum.) So it shouldn't be long before we see if Dodd's sources were accurate.



https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

There are lots of indications Kliavcoff needs to produce sometime in the next month.
So either he produces something that satisfies the schools or they start looking seriously for alternatives without him.

(03-13-2023 08:06 PM)cc22 Wrote:  They're still going to wait to see what the media deal is for the Pac. Dodd has also never intimated a move is close to being a done deal either.

“Ready to pounce” sure sounds imminent. Perhaps ready to act if PAC schools don’t get the money they expect to get would be better is what he meant.

Then again if he tweeted that there wouldn’t be a thread here nearly 20 pages long with almost 15K views about it

(03-13-2023 11:15 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:35 PM)Mean Green Alum Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:28 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Dodd’s right. They’re talking. Probably going something like this….

Big 12 Commissioner: Y’all coming?

PAC Schools: Nope

Big 12 Commissioner: OK I’ll check back next week

In all honesty, his wording has changed. This and the time at which he tweeted could mean a few things:

(1) A tweet at 5p Central Monday, rehashing last weeks tweet, makes me think B12 talked to multiple candidates today.

(2) There was a change from "4C" to "Expansion Candidates". Dodds placating/trolling Harlan/Pac reporters OR

(3) B12 has expanded its search from concentrating on 4C to partial 4C and SDSU/Gonzaga/G5's. The wording change would be a shot at Harlan's statement, warning Utah that if they don't get on board, they will be replaced.

Dodd's article last week said the Big 12 was expected to get "some combination" of the Four Corners. He never said the Big 12 would get all of the Four Corners.

Dodds says these moves are expected to occur pretty soon. (Before April 17 at a minimum.) So it shouldn't be long before we see if Dodd's sources were accurate.



https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

I would expect you’ll see Dodd continuing to crawfish away from this. Chances are his sources are from somewhere in Kansas and they’re feeding him positive Big 12 / negative PAC info for their own purposes.

(03-14-2023 01:29 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 11:15 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:35 PM)Mean Green Alum Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:28 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Dodd’s right. They’re talking. Probably going something like this….

Big 12 Commissioner: Y’all coming?

PAC Schools: Nope

Big 12 Commissioner: OK I’ll check back next week

In all honesty, his wording has changed. This and the time at which he tweeted could mean a few things:

(1) A tweet at 5p Central Monday, rehashing last weeks tweet, makes me think B12 talked to multiple candidates today.

(2) There was a change from "4C" to "Expansion Candidates". Dodds placating/trolling Harlan/Pac reporters OR

(3) B12 has expanded its search from concentrating on 4C to partial 4C and SDSU/Gonzaga/G5's. The wording change would be a shot at Harlan's statement, warning Utah that if they don't get on board, they will be replaced.

Dodd's article last week said the Big 12 was expected to get "some combination" of the Four Corners. He never said the Big 12 would get all of the Four Corners.

Dodds says these moves are expected to occur pretty soon. (Before April 17 at a minimum.) So it shouldn't be long before we see if Dodd's sources were accurate.



https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

I would expect you’ll see Dodd continuing to crawfish away from this. Chances are his sources are from somewhere in Kansas and they’re feeding him positive Big 12 / negative PAC info for their own purposes.

Olson and Mandel are saying the same thing, though. It's not just Dodd, and Mandel doesn't hide that he is heavily Pac sourced.

Olson says, from B12 sources, that Arizona/Colorado are receptive to talks with B12. Mandel says only Colorado could bolt. Dodd's articles almost mirrors Thamel, who mirrors McMurphy. Wilner thinks they will stay now, but will leave eventually to the B12. It's getting to a point where you have to ask the question: What national reporter is not saying this?

Dodd's timetable matches the one that Mandel laid out: Mandel said Pac Presidents are meeting next week to decide on numbers. He said that some resolution should come in two weeks. That's sources from two separate sides confirming the same thing.

(03-14-2023 01:29 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 11:15 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:35 PM)Mean Green Alum Wrote:  

(03-13-2023 07:28 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Dodd’s right. They’re talking. Probably going something like this….

Big 12 Commissioner: Y’all coming?

PAC Schools: Nope

Big 12 Commissioner: OK I’ll check back next week

In all honesty, his wording has changed. This and the time at which he tweeted could mean a few things:

(1) A tweet at 5p Central Monday, rehashing last weeks tweet, makes me think B12 talked to multiple candidates today.

(2) There was a change from "4C" to "Expansion Candidates". Dodds placating/trolling Harlan/Pac reporters OR

(3) B12 has expanded its search from concentrating on 4C to partial 4C and SDSU/Gonzaga/G5's. The wording change would be a shot at Harlan's statement, warning Utah that if they don't get on board, they will be replaced.

Dodd's article last week said the Big 12 was expected to get "some combination" of the Four Corners. He never said the Big 12 would get all of the Four Corners.

Dodds says these moves are expected to occur pretty soon. (Before April 17 at a minimum.) So it shouldn't be long before we see if Dodd's sources were accurate.



https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...viability/

I would expect you’ll see Dodd continuing to crawfish away from this. Chances are his sources are from somewhere in Kansas and they’re feeding him positive Big 12 / negative PAC info for their own purposes.

Almost zero percent chance that methzoo trash is leaking BS that would benefit the Kansas Jayhawks.