(03-15-2023 07:37 AM)ess Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 11:25 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Pain. Another 2nd half giving up 50 pts after a lead or close to in the 1st. This was the best team since 1980. Played defense in spots (2014 team didnt). All starting 5 could score. Didn't have a center... hurt us in the end.

I get the disappointment

But

Another great year for Toledo

In today's day and age, it is/was impressive that Kowalczk was able to keep so many of last year's players in the program.

If Rollins had stayed :).....

Todd is a great coach, he just needs to recruit and play a deeper roster if he wants to win the MAC tourney, instead of just the regular season. When your starting five all play over 1,000 minutes a season, you can do well playing Tuesday and Saturday, but three games in three days? Not so much.

(03-19-2023 04:48 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(03-15-2023 07:37 AM)ess Wrote:  

(03-14-2023 11:25 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Pain. Another 2nd half giving up 50 pts after a lead or close to in the 1st. This was the best team since 1980. Played defense in spots (2014 team didnt). All starting 5 could score. Didn't have a center... hurt us in the end.

I get the disappointment

But

Another great year for Toledo

In today's day and age, it is/was impressive that Kowalczk was able to keep so many of last year's players in the program.

If Rollins had stayed :).....

Todd is a great coach, he just needs to recruit and play a deeper roster if he wants to win the MAC tourney, instead of just the regular season. When your starting five all play over 1,000 minutes a season, you can do well playing Tuesday and Saturday, but three games in three days? Not so much.

Our Bench had plenty of minutes and points during the MAC tourney. Not Sam Houston State level but enough for the MAC. Farmer had 19 pts against Miami. Remember the Ohio team who beat Virginia? 35 mins per starter on that team and 1 bench player.

Literally Kent shut down our first team all MAC player. He had 5 shots, and like 2 pts. He averages over 16. we lost by that margain.

Kowalczk has been a D1 coach for 20+ years now and has never made the NCAA Tournament despite most years having a top 3-4 team in the conference. Obviously he's doing something wrong come tournament time.

Come MAC tournament time teams are going to scheme to take away something you do best. If Kent was scheming to make Shumate a non-factor in the game, Kowalczk needs to make in game adjustments to create him looks. Getting your 1st team All-MAC player only 5 shots is pretty inexcusable.

(03-20-2023 12:09 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Kowalczk has been a D1 coach for 20+ years now and has never made the NCAA Tournament despite most years having a top 3-4 team in the conference. Obviously he's doing something wrong come tournament time.

Come MAC tournament time teams are going to scheme to take away something you do best. If Kent was scheming to make Shumate a non-factor in the game, Kowalczk needs to make in game adjustments to create him looks. Getting your 1st team All-MAC player only 5 shots is pretty inexcusable.

Whole heartedly agree! I just don't think it was the bench this year. It was sceme to get offensive guys rolling vs. Kent. It was poor perimeter D at the end of shot clocks (give Kent credit for hitting 30 foot daggers). But it was mainly a post presence. Edu is 6'10 and about led the MAC in Blocks in his 10-17 minutes a game, but offensively he couldn't battle. He came along late and contributed against the Akrons and Ball States but not enough.

If this team had a Nathan Boothe or Luke Knapke, with Milner and JT, and the bench contributions taboot, we would have been awesome. But so would every other MAC team creating an all star squad from the past decade. K. usually misses on one component in the tourney. It's Pain. Toledo made 35 free throws in a row 1.5 weeks before the tourney and missed 7 big ones vs. Kent. We still shot 77% from the line, but the misses came when the game was in reach. The makes came down double digits.

Mr. EMU fan blaming it on bench, and Dennis not being worthy of POY is flat out wrong.

(03-20-2023 12:09 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Kowalczk has been a D1 coach for 20+ years now and has never made the NCAA Tournament despite most years having a top 3-4 team in the conference. Obviously he's doing something wrong come tournament time.

Come MAC tournament time teams are going to scheme to take away something you do best. If Kent was scheming to make Shumate a non-factor in the game, Kowalczk needs to make in game adjustments to create him looks. Getting your 1st team All-MAC player only 5 shots is pretty inexcusable.

Something was off with Shumate in that game. Even when he did get open, he wasn't looking to shoot at all.

(03-20-2023 12:50 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 12:09 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Kowalczk has been a D1 coach for 20+ years now and has never made the NCAA Tournament despite most years having a top 3-4 team in the conference. Obviously he's doing something wrong come tournament time.

Come MAC tournament time teams are going to scheme to take away something you do best. If Kent was scheming to make Shumate a non-factor in the game, Kowalczk needs to make in game adjustments to create him looks. Getting your 1st team All-MAC player only 5 shots is pretty inexcusable.

Whole heartedly agree! I just don't think it was the bench this year. It was sceme to get offensive guys rolling vs. Kent. It was poor perimeter D at the end of shot clocks (give Kent credit for hitting 30 foot daggers). But it was mainly a post presence. Edu is 6'10 and about led the MAC in Blocks in his 10-17 minutes a game, but offensively he couldn't battle. He came along late and contributed against the Akrons and Ball States but not enough.

If this team had a Nathan Boothe or Luke Knapke, with Milner and JT, and the bench contributions taboot, we would have been awesome. But so would every other MAC team creating an all star squad from the past decade. K. usually misses on one component in the tourney. It's Pain. Toledo made 35 free throws in a row 1.5 weeks before the tourney and missed 7 big ones vs. Kent. We still shot 77% from the line, but the misses came when the game was in reach. The makes came down double digits.

Mr. EMU fan blaming it on bench, and Dennis not being worthy of POY is flat out wrong.

Ray J is indeed a spectacular player. I must admit that I was disappointed with his performance in the two biggest games of the season where I was rooting hard for the Rockets and thus my statements contain a certain amount of simple fan disgust.

Now for the bench. How may MAC teams have five players that get four digits of minutes? Toledo and ...? Three games in three days in the MAC tourney need more depth. Todd is a fabulous regular season coach, but if he wants to get a NCAA invite, he needs to play more guys.

(03-20-2023 06:04 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 12:50 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(03-20-2023 12:09 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Kowalczk has been a D1 coach for 20+ years now and has never made the NCAA Tournament despite most years having a top 3-4 team in the conference. Obviously he's doing something wrong come tournament time.

Come MAC tournament time teams are going to scheme to take away something you do best. If Kent was scheming to make Shumate a non-factor in the game, Kowalczk needs to make in game adjustments to create him looks. Getting your 1st team All-MAC player only 5 shots is pretty inexcusable.

Whole heartedly agree! I just don't think it was the bench this year. It was sceme to get offensive guys rolling vs. Kent. It was poor perimeter D at the end of shot clocks (give Kent credit for hitting 30 foot daggers). But it was mainly a post presence. Edu is 6'10 and about led the MAC in Blocks in his 10-17 minutes a game, but offensively he couldn't battle. He came along late and contributed against the Akrons and Ball States but not enough.

If this team had a Nathan Boothe or Luke Knapke, with Milner and JT, and the bench contributions taboot, we would have been awesome. But so would every other MAC team creating an all star squad from the past decade. K. usually misses on one component in the tourney. It's Pain. Toledo made 35 free throws in a row 1.5 weeks before the tourney and missed 7 big ones vs. Kent. We still shot 77% from the line, but the misses came when the game was in reach. The makes came down double digits.

Mr. EMU fan blaming it on bench, and Dennis not being worthy of POY is flat out wrong.

Ray J is indeed a spectacular player. I must admit that I was disappointed with his performance in the two biggest games of the season where I was rooting hard for the Rockets and thus my statements contain a certain amount of simple fan disgust.

Now for the bench. How may MAC teams have five players that get four digits of minutes? Toledo and ...? Three games in three days in the MAC tourney need more depth. Todd is a fabulous regular season coach, but if he wants to get a NCAA invite, he needs to play more guys.

I don't know what you mean?
Our guys averaged 33.9, 32.8, 30.1, 29.4, 30.2, 16.1, 12.1, (23.1), and 7.6. Cochran got hurt and was playing 23 mins a game. 8 or 9 guys saw the floor every single game. Many of the blow outs our walk on got in? You're confusing this season for the past. 3 starters went down in mins this year because for a portion of the season we had legit depth. That's after losing a sophomore guard to the NBA.

Kent's for reference was: 36.8, 32.8, 27.1, 22.3, 21.5, (27.1), 16.2, 16.4, 8.8. Their depth was just positioned better because they have twontrue 5s. Hornbeck doesn't play much but the start of the halves. Carry still played damn near all the time. Santiago got hurt which killed pg depth but still. 2 ,3, and 4 guards are just similarly sized and easier to plug based on matchups at Kent. Toledo had 3 first team caliber players that wouldn't come off the floor much at Kent either.