(03-09-2023 07:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Boise is even being mentioned. As for the AD I’m don’t remember Houston, BYU, Cincinnati or UCF having their ADs out there either. It ain’t the reason. Wake up and face the hard truth
What is that hard truth?
That we’ve pretty much done all we can do and still got left out. But we always need to have a scapegoat and the AD is the easy choice
For year I heard that not having a indoor practice facility or turf field was a killer, how we had to bus to cbhs etc. How the coaches can’t recruit players to win because of it. Then Justin Fuente and Mike Norvell won AAC titles and Norvell took us to a NY6 bowl. Yet we still didn’t get in.
Now the OCS now crew is back claiming that’s the reason when Boise St has won at football and had a niche stadium for years while USC and UCLA play in 100 year old stadiums and get invited to the Big Ten
Wake up
Sure some make or offer excuses but then again, reality says there are valid reasons why some schools have advanced and some have not. Why some schools like UCF didn't even play D-1 sports until 1996 but got the invite when our university already had 50+ yrs of D-1 level sports under its belt but didn't. Why Cincinnati, long our whipping boy is now headed to the B-12 and we are not. Why schools like FSU, VATech, So Car were long our athletic peers but have long since passed us by. Those are facts, the reasons why are multiple - and the excuses too. Probably #1 is leadership (not limited to the univ president & AD). And in particular leadership where our university wasn't their #1 priority. So you don't think facilities have played a role (despite the fact that as early as the 60s the SEC told we had to improve facilities and as late as last 2 yrs the B-12 said the same if you believe media reports & Dr Rudd's comments), so what are the reasons since its clear we have been left behind again?
(03-09-2023 12:15 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: It's called marketing 101.
Hopefully, we've learned that the people we need to be marketing to are located in Bristol, Connecticut and Burbank, California. Marketing to those people will not be done over radio.
Yeah and unfortunately for us Burke Magnus who is President of Programming at ESPN said one of the main things they look for are rivalries. Pretty much all of our rivals started getting ahead and moving up in conferences before us so we started losing those connections over the years.
(03-09-2023 12:15 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: It's called marketing 101.
Hopefully, we've learned that the people we need to be marketing to are located in Bristol, Connecticut and Burbank, California. Marketing to those people will not be done over radio.
Yep. Those clowns in Waco aren’t moving the needle for anyone.
I disagree. I think they're building a hell of a following with the big 12 fan bases.
(03-09-2023 07:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Boise is even being mentioned. As for the AD I’m don’t remember Houston, BYU, Cincinnati or UCF having their ADs out there either. It ain’t the reason. Wake up and face the hard truth
What is that hard truth?
That we’ve pretty much done all we can do and still got left out. But we always need to have a scapegoat and the AD is the easy choice
For year I heard that not having a indoor practice facility or turf field was a killer, how we had to bus to cbhs etc. How the coaches can’t recruit players to win because of it. Then Justin Fuente and Mike Norvell won AAC titles and Norvell took us to a NY6 bowl. Yet we still didn’t get in.
Now the OCS now crew is back claiming that’s the reason when Boise St has won at football and had a niche stadium for years while USC and UCLA play in 100 year old stadiums and get invited to the Big Ten
Wake up
We don't need an OCS to get in a P5 conference. We're about a decade behind Cincy and Houston and UCF in taking football seriously. The TN Governor and legislature cited P5 expectations as a reason for funding the Liberty Bowl renovations. We're on the right path, we were just late to get on it.
(03-09-2023 07:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Boise is even being mentioned. As for the AD I’m don’t remember Houston, BYU, Cincinnati or UCF having their ADs out there either. It ain’t the reason. Wake up and face the hard truth
What is that hard truth?
That we are stuck in CUSAAC for a long time.
Three CUSA schools are moving up to the big time - 6 CUSA schools are coming in to replace them. Temple and Wichita State are the only non-alum CUSA schools, lol.
The AAC is what it is - the 6th or 7th best conference. I think 14 schools is too many. Aresco should have stopped the backfilling at 12. Don't need 14 schools - stop at 12 - if a couple more leave THEN go get the others.
(03-09-2023 07:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Boise is even being mentioned. As for the AD I’m don’t remember Houston, BYU, Cincinnati or UCF having their ADs out there either. It ain’t the reason. Wake up and face the hard truth
What is that hard truth?
That we are stuck in CUSAAC for a long time.
Three CUSA schools are moving up to the big time - 6 CUSA schools are coming in to replace them. Temple and Wichita State are the only non-alum CUSA schools, lol.
The AAC is what it is - the 6th or 7th best conference. I think 14 schools is too many. Aresco should have stopped the backfilling at 12. Don't need 14 schools - stop at 12 - if a couple more leave THEN go get the others.
I think at the time it was a pretty logical assumption that Memphis & one other AAC school would be leaving within a couple of years. With the now anticipated collapse of the PAC, that assumption was a bad one & the AAC will soon have too many mouths to feed who don't add much
(03-09-2023 12:15 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: It's called marketing 101.
Hopefully, we've learned that the people we need to be marketing to are located in Bristol, Connecticut and Burbank, California. Marketing to those people will not be done over radio.
Yep. Those clowns in Waco aren’t moving the needle for anyone.
I disagree. I think they're building a hell of a following with the big 12 fan bases.
The video the OP is referencing has 1200 views…
That is a video.... OF THIER RADIO SHOW. DRIVETIME.
(03-09-2023 07:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Boise is even being mentioned. As for the AD I’m don’t remember Houston, BYU, Cincinnati or UCF having their ADs out there either. It ain’t the reason. Wake up and face the hard truth
What is that hard truth?
That we’ve pretty much done all we can do and still got left out. But we always need to have a scapegoat and the AD is the easy choice
For year I heard that not having a indoor practice facility or turf field was a killer, how we had to bus to cbhs etc. How the coaches can’t recruit players to win because of it. Then Justin Fuente and Mike Norvell won AAC titles and Norvell took us to a NY6 bowl. Yet we still didn’t get in.
Now the OCS now crew is back claiming that’s the reason when Boise St has won at football and had a niche stadium for years while USC and UCLA play in 100 year old stadiums and get invited to the Big Ten
Wake up
Okay, the question remains: what is this hard truth of which you speak?
Here is the hard truth: the demographics of the university and the demographics and reputation of the city in general are the reason. It's over.
(03-09-2023 07:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Boise is even being mentioned. As for the AD I’m don’t remember Houston, BYU, Cincinnati or UCF having their ADs out there either. It ain’t the reason. Wake up and face the hard truth
What is that hard truth?
That we’ve pretty much done all we can do and still got left out. But we always need to have a scapegoat and the AD is the easy choice
For year I heard that not having a indoor practice facility or turf field was a killer, how we had to bus to cbhs etc. How the coaches can’t recruit players to win because of it. Then Justin Fuente and Mike Norvell won AAC titles and Norvell took us to a NY6 bowl. Yet we still didn’t get in.
Now the OCS now crew is back claiming that’s the reason when Boise St has won at football and had a niche stadium for years while USC and UCLA play in 100 year old stadiums and get invited to the Big Ten
Wake up
Okay, the question remains: what is this hard truth of which you speak?
Here is the hard truth: the demographics of the university and the demographics and reputation of the city in general are the reason. It's over.
Well? That's what tha gays said back in the 80s, and now look at us... a dude just got "woman of the year." So all we gotta do is sit back and wait. The SJWs will force the SEC to take us eventually. That is, if THAT really is the reason.
(03-09-2023 12:49 PM)micman Wrote: Hopefully, we've learned that the people we need to be marketing to are located in Bristol, Connecticut and Burbank, California. Marketing to those people will not be done over radio.
Yep. Those clowns in Waco aren’t moving the needle for anyone.
I disagree. I think they're building a hell of a following with the big 12 fan bases.
The video the OP is referencing has 1200 views…
That is a video.... OF THIER RADIO SHOW. DRIVETIME.
Of THEIR RADIO SHOW, in WACO. I’m sure that “hell of a following” they have, a little over 5,000 followers on Twitter, are a who’s who of Big 12 fan bases. For comparison sake, John Martin has around 30k.
(03-09-2023 01:17 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote: Yep. Those clowns in Waco aren’t moving the needle for anyone.
I disagree. I think they're building a hell of a following with the big 12 fan bases.
The video the OP is referencing has 1200 views…
That is a video.... OF THIER RADIO SHOW. DRIVETIME.
Of THEIR RADIO SHOW, in WACO. I’m sure that “hell of a following” they have, a little over 5,000 followers on Twitter, are a who’s who of Big 12 fan bases. For comparison sake, John Martin has around 30k.
We have experts on this board who should form a committee charged with getting us a B12 invite. They’ve already resolved the mistake list. Now they get should get busy on the sure fire answers to get us to the next level.
(03-10-2023 12:30 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: We have experts on this board who should form a committee charged with getting us a B12 invite. They’ve already resolved the mistake list. Now they get should get busy on the sure fire answers to get us to the next level.
(03-09-2023 07:44 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: Boise is even being mentioned. As for the AD I’m don’t remember Houston, BYU, Cincinnati or UCF having their ADs out there either. It ain’t the reason. Wake up and face the hard truth
What is that hard truth?
That we’ve pretty much done all we can do and still got left out. But we always need to have a scapegoat and the AD is the easy choice
For year I heard that not having a indoor practice facility or turf field was a killer, how we had to bus to cbhs etc. How the coaches can’t recruit players to win because of it. Then Justin Fuente and Mike Norvell won AAC titles and Norvell took us to a NY6 bowl. Yet we still didn’t get in.
Now the OCS now crew is back claiming that’s the reason when Boise St has won at football and had a niche stadium for years while USC and UCLA play in 100 year old stadiums and get invited to the Big Ten
Wake up
Okay, the question remains: what is this hard truth of which you speak?
Here is the hard truth: the demographics of the university and the demographics and reputation of the city in general are the reason. It's over.
(03-09-2023 11:13 AM)Atlanta Wrote: What is that hard truth?
That we’ve pretty much done all we can do and still got left out. But we always need to have a scapegoat and the AD is the easy choice
For year I heard that not having a indoor practice facility or turf field was a killer, how we had to bus to cbhs etc. How the coaches can’t recruit players to win because of it. Then Justin Fuente and Mike Norvell won AAC titles and Norvell took us to a NY6 bowl. Yet we still didn’t get in.
Now the OCS now crew is back claiming that’s the reason when Boise St has won at football and had a niche stadium for years while USC and UCLA play in 100 year old stadiums and get invited to the Big Ten
Wake up
Okay, the question remains: what is this hard truth of which you speak?
Here is the hard truth: the demographics of the university and the demographics and reputation of the city in general are the reason. It's over.
Ding ding we have a winner
This is not the reason and is in fact one of the dumber explanations I've seen. ESPN is in charge of conference realignment. If there is anything holding us back, it is the number of eyeballs on the tv watching our football games. However, I actually don't think anything is holding us back other than previous decades where our school did not show a commitment to football. Now it has, and Memphis is on the right path and has been for about 8 years. These things take time, decades not years. Football success leads to increased viewership and more fans. How about let's win the conference championship every year for 5 years and see what happens.
(03-09-2023 11:58 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote: That we’ve pretty much done all we can do and still got left out. But we always need to have a scapegoat and the AD is the easy choice
For year I heard that not having a indoor practice facility or turf field was a killer, how we had to bus to cbhs etc. How the coaches can’t recruit players to win because of it. Then Justin Fuente and Mike Norvell won AAC titles and Norvell took us to a NY6 bowl. Yet we still didn’t get in.
Now the OCS now crew is back claiming that’s the reason when Boise St has won at football and had a niche stadium for years while USC and UCLA play in 100 year old stadiums and get invited to the Big Ten
Wake up
Okay, the question remains: what is this hard truth of which you speak?
Here is the hard truth: the demographics of the university and the demographics and reputation of the city in general are the reason. It's over.
Ding ding we have a winner
This is not the reason and is in fact one of the dumber explanations I've seen. ESPN is in charge of conference realignment. If there is anything holding us back, it is the number of eyeballs on the tv watching our football games. However, I actually don't think anything is holding us back other than previous decades where our school did not show a commitment to football. Now it has, and Memphis is on the right path and has been for about 8 years. These things take time, decades not years. Football success leads to increased viewership and more fans. How about let's win the conference championship every year for 5 years and see what happens.
Cincinnati didn't have to do that. Houston didn't have to do that. That is a ridiculous bar to reach. If we did that, the reaction would be that the AAC must be trash. Look at Boise. They DID that, and they aren't any closer than we are. But at least their AD is trying.
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Jeremiah Dickey (Boise State AD)
