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(03-08-2023 05:17 PM)falconplucker Wrote:  In my opinion, it seems opposing defenses are tightening down on Wiard and Lockett, forcing Toledo to try and beat them in other ways. Luckily, Toledo has the depth and experience, where there have been others to step up enough to put Toledo over the top. Wiard has also been struggling. Buffalo did a great job hitting threes, avoiding fouls, and preventing Toledo from getting second chance points for much of the game. I think Kent St played in similar fashion last time. Should be another tight game on Friday. Survive and move on.

Survive and move on is what they have done the last 5 games. Unfortunately that strategy will catch up with you eventually. These games come down to a couple of plays in the last minute. That block by Lockett at the end could have been called a foul and two shots for Buffalo to win the game. Really need to not let the game margins to be that small. They need to play aggressively from the start of the game. But recently they have been stagnant on offense throwing the ball around the perimeter with no movement.
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(03-08-2023 01:13 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  This is working out great. Easy first round opponent. Blowout win, plenty of rest for the starters, builds confidence. By the way, I didn’t catch the game. How. badly did we embarrass them?
Lol. You win the internet today. Too funny.

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Haven't watched the game yet, but yikes. Another scary ugly win, but in March, winning is all that matters, no matter how you do it.

And don't forget, Buffalo was the hottest team coming into the tourney, having won their last 3, including destroying BG at their place. They are not the same team they were when UT played them the 1st time as it took them a long time to figure out how to play together. And, like Akron and Kent before them, shot lights out from three in the 1st half. Seems like everyone is doing that to UT these days.

This team now has 55 wins in two seasons, which is the most in school history. Lockett passed Dana Drew for 4th place all-time in scoring, and Wiard passed Janice Monakana for 19th place.
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(03-08-2023 06:06 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 05:17 PM)falconplucker Wrote:  In my opinion, it seems opposing defenses are tightening down on Wiard and Lockett, forcing Toledo to try and beat them in other ways. Luckily, Toledo has the depth and experience, where there have been others to step up enough to put Toledo over the top. Wiard has also been struggling. Buffalo did a great job hitting threes, avoiding fouls, and preventing Toledo from getting second chance points for much of the game. I think Kent St played in similar fashion last time. Should be another tight game on Friday. Survive and move on.

Survive and move on is what they have done the last 5 games. Unfortunately that strategy will catch up with you eventually. These games come down to a couple of plays in the last minute. That block by Lockett at the end could have been called a foul and two shots for Buffalo to win the game. Really need to not let the game margins to be that small. They need to play aggressively from the start of the game. But recently they have been stagnant on offense throwing the ball around the perimeter with no movement.

Agree with you. Too many times there was a fast break and the team slowed the ball down around the three point line. Take it to the freakin' basket.
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Ball drilling Akron. So we will have:

Friday
10am: Toledo vs Kent
12:30pm: BG vs Ball

That BG - BSU game will be something.
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Bowling Green and Ball State who are also playing sudden death basketball both managed to blow their opponents away in round one.
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(03-08-2023 07:24 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Haven't watched the game yet, but yikes. Another scary ugly win, but in March, winning is all that matters, no matter how you do it.

And don't forget, Buffalo was the hottest team coming into the tourney, having won their last 3, including destroying BG at their place. They are not the same team they were when UT played them the 1st time as it took them a long time to figure out how to play together. And, like Akron and Kent before them, shot lights out from three in the 1st half. Seems like everyone is doing that to UT these days.

This team now has 55 wins in two seasons, which is the most in school history. Lockett passed Dana Drew for 4th place all-time in scoring, and Wiard passed Janice Monakana for 19th place.

You'll enjoy it much more already knowing the result. That was a good plan.
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(03-08-2023 07:59 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  Bowling Green and Ball State who are also playing sudden death basketball both managed to blow their opponents away in round one.


BG clearly got the best first round draw and weakest opponent.

Ball State just put it on Akron tonight.
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(03-08-2023 09:45 PM)adunifon Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 07:59 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  Bowling Green and Ball State who are also playing sudden death basketball both managed to blow their opponents away in round one.


BG clearly got the best first round draw and weakest opponent.

Ball State just put it on Akron tonight.

EMU was without their best player, Ce'Nara Skanes. The Eagles were already thin, so they had no chance with Skanes out. Buffalo, while equally thin, has some really talented players. I thought Buffalo had a lot to do with why the game was so close.
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(03-08-2023 10:07 PM)Lester Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 09:45 PM)adunifon Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 07:59 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  Bowling Green and Ball State who are also playing sudden death basketball both managed to blow their opponents away in round one.

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BG clearly got the best first round draw and weakest opponent.

Ball State just put it on Akron tonight.

EMU was without their best player, Ce'Nara Skanes. The Eagles were already thin, so they had no chance with Skanes out. Buffalo, while equally thin, has some really talented players. I thought Buffalo had a lot to do with why the game was so close.
Absolutely they played really well. What is bothersome to me is this is the 5th game in a row where our opponent nearly wins the game. Some of that has to reflect the rockets not playing up to their potential. My impression is UT is playing with the burden of high expectations.
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(03-08-2023 01:37 PM)adunifon Wrote:  Neutral site conf tournament is so dumb:

-teams don’t get a shoot around before the game. When they come on floor for warmups it’s the first they’ve shot there. Absurd.

-empty arena w no atmosphere

- if you want to make the regular season count, let the top seed host the tourney. At least the mid majors that have that model have packed gyms with great atmosphere for their tourney games.


I was just saying this exact thing. Make getting the top seeds actually mean something. Move the first 2 rounds to the top seed sites, let them keep the gate. Have both of the final games at Rocket Mortgage if you want, same night, women start at like 5, men start an hour later. Make the regular season actually mean something. Seeing these empty arenas at 11:00AM(10 AM tomorrow), also ridiculous btw, gives no advantage whatsoever.
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(03-09-2023 09:13 AM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 10:07 PM)Lester Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 09:45 PM)adunifon Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 07:59 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  Bowling Green and Ball State who are also playing sudden death basketball both managed to blow their opponents away in round one.

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BG clearly got the best first round draw and weakest opponent.

Ball State just put it on Akron tonight.

EMU was without their best player, Ce'Nara Skanes. The Eagles were already thin, so they had no chance with Skanes out. Buffalo, while equally thin, has some really talented players. I thought Buffalo had a lot to do with why the game was so close.
Absolutely they played really well. What is bothersome to me is this is the 5th game in a row where our opponent nearly wins the game. Some of that has to reflect the rockets not playing up to their potential. My impression is UT is playing with the burden of high expectations.

With their very short bench we should've pressed most of the game, been very aggressive and tired them out. I love that we have Cullop but I totally don't understand her substitutions sometimes. Every now and then Q will be throwing everything up and not making anything. She should be sat for a few to calm her down. Jansen will be shooting hot and she will be taken out for some reason. In the BG game Sammi was benched with 2 fouls in the second quarter. BG started pulling away and still she sat. Then she came back in the third and willed us back into the game. Foul trouble or not, what good is it keeping someone from fouling out if you run the risk of getting blown out. Best example though is I'm still wondering why Garcia was on the bench most of the 4th quarter last game. Good portion of the game she was our leading scorer with some decent defense. Swapping in Cook for her did absolutely nothing.
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(03-09-2023 09:37 PM)Shrakk Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:13 AM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 10:07 PM)Lester Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 09:45 PM)adunifon Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 07:59 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  Bowling Green and Ball State who are also playing sudden death basketball both managed to blow their opponents away in round one.

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BG clearly got the best first round draw and weakest opponent.

Ball State just put it on Akron tonight.

EMU was without their best player, Ce'Nara Skanes. The Eagles were already thin, so they had no chance with Skanes out. Buffalo, while equally thin, has some really talented players. I thought Buffalo had a lot to do with why the game was so close.
Absolutely they played really well. What is bothersome to me is this is the 5th game in a row where our opponent nearly wins the game. Some of that has to reflect the rockets not playing up to their potential. My impression is UT is playing with the burden of high expectations.

With their very short bench we should've pressed most of the game, been very aggressive and tired them out. I love that we have Cullop but I totally don't understand her substitutions sometimes. Every now and then Q will be throwing everything up and not making anything. She should be sat for a few to calm her down. Jansen will be shooting hot and she will be taken out for some reason. In the BG game Sammi was benched with 2 fouls in the second quarter. BG started pulling away and still she sat. Then she came back in the third and willed us back into the game. Foul trouble or not, what good is it keeping someone from fouling out if you run the risk of getting blown out. Best example though is I'm still wondering why Garcia was on the bench most of the 4th quarter last game. Good portion of the game she was our leading scorer with some decent defense. Swapping in Cook for her did absolutely nothing.

I agree. It made no sense to sit Garcia the last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter when she was clearly the best offensive option until Q took over and the end of the game. Actually Garcia has outplayed Cook most of the season and IMO has earned the starting spotl
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(03-09-2023 09:42 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:37 PM)Shrakk Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:13 AM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 10:07 PM)Lester Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 09:45 PM)adunifon Wrote:  be
BG clearly got the best first round draw and weakest opponent.

Ball State just put it on Akron tonight.

EMU was without their best player, Ce'Nara Skanes. The Eagles were already thin, so they had no chance with Skanes out. Buffalo, while equally thin, has some really talented players. I thought Buffalo had a lot to do with why the game was so close.
Absolutely they played really well. What is bothersome to me is this is the 5th game in a row where our opponent nearly wins the game. Some of that has to reflect the rockets not playing up to their potential. My impression is UT is playing with the burden of high expectations.

With their very short bench we should've pressed most of the game, been very aggressive and tired them out. I love that we have Cullop but I totally don't understand her substitutions sometimes. Every now and then Q will be throwing everything up and not making anything. She should be sat for a few to calm her down. Jansen will be shooting hot and she will be taken out for some reason. In the BG game Sammi was benched with 2 fouls in the second quarter. BG started pulling away and still she sat. Then she came back in the third and willed us back into the game. Foul trouble or not, what good is it keeping someone from fouling out if you run the risk of getting blown out. Best example though is I'm still wondering why Garcia was on the bench most of the 4th quarter last game. Good portion of the game she was our leading scorer with some decent defense. Swapping in Cook for her did absolutely nothing.

I agree. It made no sense to sit Garcia the last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter when she was clearly the best offensive option until Q took over and the end of the game. Actually Garcia has outplayed Cook most of the season and IMO has earned the starting spotl

I prefer Garcia off the bench. She gets starter minutes anyway but she’s great in the Vinnie Johnsonish microwave role. Cook seems to do the most damage early, then fades.
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(03-09-2023 10:41 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:42 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:37 PM)Shrakk Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:13 AM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  
(03-08-2023 10:07 PM)Lester Wrote:  EMU was without their best player, Ce'Nara Skanes. The Eagles were already thin, so they had no chance with Skanes out. Buffalo, while equally thin, has some really talented players. I thought Buffalo had a lot to do with why the game was so close.
Absolutely they played really well. What is bothersome to me is this is the 5th game in a row where our opponent nearly wins the game. Some of that has to reflect the rockets not playing up to their potential. My impression is UT is playing with the burden of high expectations.

With their very short bench we should've pressed most of the game, been very aggressive and tired them out. I love that we have Cullop but I totally don't understand her substitutions sometimes. Every now and then Q will be throwing everything up and not making anything. She should be sat for a few to calm her down. Jansen will be shooting hot and she will be taken out for some reason. In the BG game Sammi was benched with 2 fouls in the second quarter. BG started pulling away and still she sat. Then she came back in the third and willed us back into the game. Foul trouble or not, what good is it keeping someone from fouling out if you run the risk of getting blown out. Best example though is I'm still wondering why Garcia was on the bench most of the 4th quarter last game. Good portion of the game she was our leading scorer with some decent defense. Swapping in Cook for her did absolutely nothing.

I agree. It made no sense to sit Garcia the last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter when she was clearly the best offensive option until Q took over and the end of the game. Actually Garcia has outplayed Cook most of the season and IMO has earned the starting spotl

I prefer Garcia off the bench. She gets starter minutes anyway but she’s great in the Vinnie Johnsonish microwave role. Cook seems to do the most damage early, then fades.

Perfect point. People get way too hung up on the starting idea. What really matters is who you're playing in the final minutes. And there's something to having a good player off the bench when they frequently play against a lesser player for the other team after the starter is resting.

You've won a gazillion games in a row...I don't think I'd question your coach at this point.
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Like the energy early despite some sloppiness. Could be attributed to the 10am start. Look 100 times quicker than Wednesday.
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(03-10-2023 10:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 10:41 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:42 PM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:37 PM)Shrakk Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 09:13 AM)kazoorocket43 Wrote:  Absolutely they played really well. What is bothersome to me is this is the 5th game in a row where our opponent nearly wins the game. Some of that has to reflect the rockets not playing up to their potential. My impression is UT is playing with the burden of high expectations.

With their very short bench we should've pressed most of the game, been very aggressive and tired them out. I love that we have Cullop but I totally don't understand her substitutions sometimes. Every now and then Q will be throwing everything up and not making anything. She should be sat for a few to calm her down. Jansen will be shooting hot and she will be taken out for some reason. In the BG game Sammi was benched with 2 fouls in the second quarter. BG started pulling away and still she sat. Then she came back in the third and willed us back into the game. Foul trouble or not, what good is it keeping someone from fouling out if you run the risk of getting blown out. Best example though is I'm still wondering why Garcia was on the bench most of the 4th quarter last game. Good portion of the game she was our leading scorer with some decent defense. Swapping in Cook for her did absolutely nothing.

I agree. It made no sense to sit Garcia the last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter when she was clearly the best offensive option until Q took over and the end of the game. Actually Garcia has outplayed Cook most of the season and IMO has earned the starting spotl

I prefer Garcia off the bench. She gets starter minutes anyway but she’s great in the Vinnie Johnsonish microwave role. Cook seems to do the most damage early, then fades.

Perfect point. People get way too hung up on the starting idea. What really matters is who you're playing in the final minutes. And there's something to having a good player off the bench when they frequently play against a lesser player for the other team after the starter is resting.

You've won a gazillion games in a row...I don't think I'd question your coach at this point.

Both Jansen and Garcia were on floor most of last 10 minutes of game. Goss did play but JJ got most of the minutes and it proved very wise since Jansen shoots 90% + and that got us the win.
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