(02-22-2023 11:34 AM)blazerwkr Wrote: I'd imagine Sard Vernon will start to put out the spin. They did such a good job on the UAB fb program spin
It's Sard-Verbinnen, and if it's not specifically them, it looks like someone's on the job. The narrative this morning is, predictably, "overcoming adversity" for poor Brandon Miller, per CNN, ESPN and others, plus a Scarbinsky column lamenting that poor Brandon can't get his name back (his defense attorney says he's innocent!).
Looks like they're going to get away with murder. Roll Tide.
(02-21-2023 05:35 PM)jaymay2525 Wrote: The DA came out and said there was no crime to charge Miller with. Not sure how that is, but maybe Miller is going to turn witness on the non-basketball player and this was part of a plea (no charges, for testimony)...who knows
Ok, he didn't do something that he could be prosecuted for. Instead of a late night booty call he got a "Hey, buddy, can you bring my pistol down to the club?" at 1:30 a.m. and did so instead of saying "Hey man, are you sure that's a smart thing to do?".
You don't have to break the law to be suspended from the team for your actions. The coach had tools he chose not to use.
Playing college basketball is a privilege, one suspended regularly for "violations of team rules." To put this in perspective, Eric Gaines has lost more floor time for showing up late to a meeting than Brandon Miller has for helping to shoot someone in the face.
Complete silence from the faculty, university president and Board of Trustees indicates approval and support of Nate Oats' words and actions. The University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa has made a profound statement of where its values lie.
This. He should have been suspended for breaking team rules or student code of conduct when Oats first heard about it. The attorney's statement makes him seem that he was on his way to pick him up before he even got the gun text, but there is lots of loss time. Also what restaurants are open after 12am besides Waffle House?
And if his car got shot up where was Miller? If his whole point on driving there was to pick his teammate up, where was he when all this went down when his car was still there?
Still some missing info, but I think what irks people the most is that there were no repercussions at all. Players have been suspended for games for the smallest and dumbest stuff, so I think suspension for being in a crime scene is worth a suspension - even if he is legally innocent in court.
(02-22-2023 11:34 AM)blazerwkr Wrote: I'd imagine Sard Vernon will start to put out the spin. They did such a good job on the UAB fb program spin
It's Sard-Verbinnen, and if it's not specifically them, it looks like someone's on the job. The narrative this morning is, predictably, "overcoming adversity" for poor Brandon Miller, per CNN, ESPN and others, plus a Scarbinsky column lamenting that poor Brandon can't get his name back (his defense attorney says he's innocent!).
Looks like they're going to get away with murder. Roll Tide.
UofA made a statement regarding the reason Miller was not suspended. Fox 6 reported that Miller's attorney stated that Miller did not touch the gun hidden in the back seat of his car. I would be curious to know if the gun was part of a routine for those late night trips to the Strip? That was not clarified by Fox 6 news report.
(02-23-2023 01:01 PM)bigdunks Wrote: UofA made a statement regarding the reason Miller was not suspended. Fox 6 reported that Miller's attorney stated that Miller did not touch the gun hidden in the back seat of his car. I would be curious to know if the gun was part of a routine for those late night trips to the Strip? That was not clarified by Fox 6 news report.
What I heard on Fox 6 was that Miles hid it under some clothes in backseat, Miller did not know it was there and Miller was already on way to pick up Miles. Miles got the gun out of the back. Miller never got out of car and was only picking up Miles. He had no idea he has delivered the gun.
(02-23-2023 01:01 PM)bigdunks Wrote: UofA made a statement regarding the reason Miller was not suspended. Fox 6 reported that Miller's attorney stated that Miller did not touch the gun hidden in the back seat of his car. I would be curious to know if the gun was part of a routine for those late night trips to the Strip? That was not clarified by Fox 6 news report.
What I heard on Fox 6 was that Miles hid it under some clothes in backseat, Miller did not know it was there and Miller was already on way to pick up Miles. Miles got the gun out of the back. Miller never got out of car and was only picking up Miles. He had no idea he has delivered the gun.
I didn't see about the clothes but overall that's what I've been reading. The only thing I don't understand is where was he during the shooting if he never got out of the car and then his car got shot up? Was he still in the car when they grabbed the gun and also during the shootout?
You think he would just hey man I'm here let's get the hell out of here before something happens, but I guess not.
Still a lot of missing time and details. We seem to have details before they got the gun out of the vehicle but no new details during the actual shooting.
(02-23-2023 01:07 PM)jaymay2525 Wrote: [quote='bigdunks' pid='18799259' dateline='1677175289']
UofA made a statement regarding the reason Miller was not suspended. Fox 6 reported that Miller's attorney stated that Miller did not touch the gun hidden in the back seat of his car. I would be curious to know if the gun was part of a routine for those late night trips to the Strip? That was not clarified by Fox 6 news report.
What I heard on Fox 6 was that Miles hid it under some clothes in backseat, Miller did not know it was there and Miller was already on way to pick up Miles. Miles got the gun out of the back. Miller never got out car and was only picking up Miles. He had no idea he has delivered the gun.
That was my point about the lawyer's statement. The lawyer did not clarify if the hidden gun was taken to the Strip on other occasions? It seems odd that Miles would deliberately hide a gun in backseat of Miller's vehicle on this one time occasion. May UofA could clarify?
There's a ton of missing information and unlike Bama fans most people are not soulless morons. We can read between the lines of the tons of missing information that Bama is conveniently leaving out of their perfectly constructed statements. Miller was involved in a murder and got away with it.
It's particularly disgusting that the narrative is shifting to miller and Bama "fighting adversity" and "overcoming the noise." Someone's ******* dead and someone else is without their mother for the rest of their life bc of Bama players, and they're not being held to full account over this.
F*ck bama, f*ck miller, and f*ck everyone who is complicit in him getting away without a slap on the wrist in this sordid affair.
(This post was last modified: 02-23-2023 02:44 PM by The Answer UAB.)
Why was it not released previously that Miller's car was shot? If he was truly in the wrong place at the wrong time, this all would have been addressed at the time of the incident, not retroactively trying to put together the best story they can. And the text message exchange definitely doesn't seem to back the lawyer's story. Like The Answer said, we aren't morons.
(02-25-2023 05:08 PM)58-56 Wrote: bammer is definitely taking this seriously, and not making light of the murder (this is today's intro of Miller (#24)):
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bammer is definitely taking this seriously, and not making light of the murder (this is today's intro of Miller (#24)):
They should have let Miller's attorney shake him down.
Just saw today's news about the Miller game intro controversy. You've got to be kidding me that for over a month nobody over there had the thought that the intro was inappropriate. Very apparent that incompetence reigns within all levels of University of Alabama leadership.
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2023 12:04 AM by Plaid Blazer.)
(02-26-2023 12:03 AM)Plaid Blazer Wrote: Just saw today's news about the Miller game intro controversy. You've got to be kidding me that for over a month nobody over there had the thought that the intro was inappropriate. Very apparent that incompetence reigns within all levels of University of Alabama leadership.
Contrast that with New Mexico State University Chancellor Dan Arvizu (on 11 Feb of this year):
Late yesterday, at my direction, New Mexico State University suspended operations for our men’s basketball program until further notice. We took this action after receiving reports of alleged hazing incidents within our men’s basketball team.
And meanwhile, Kevin Scarbinsky wonders "how Brandon Miller will get his reputation back."
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