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“Wrong spot at the wrong time.” B.S. Flag!
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Athletes are coddled if they show talent in elementary school. I am amazed that this doesn't happen more. For a student athlete to come through our system and be good person is amazing. We are failing them by protecting them from the consequences of their actions. But Bama is just being Bama by not making players deal with the consequences in a way that is detrimental to the prospects of winning. I really think by not suspending the player Bama is hurting it's program more.
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Just a couple of years ago, the state of Alabama executed Nathaniel Woods for the murders of Curly Owen (who I knew) and two other Birmingham police officers.

The thing is: Woods didn't pull the trigger. Woods did not wield a weapon. Woods was present in the Ensley crack house where the ambush took place and was convicted as an accomplice.

I am at a loss to explain the difference between Nathaniel Woods and Brandon Miller. Other than one of them wearing a bammer basketball jersey twice a week.

At least NMSU had the decency to shut down their program.
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(02-21-2023 04:41 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  
Nate Oats Wrote:Can't control everything everybody does outside of practice.

Are you FN kidding me? This isn't just careless activity. He made a block and an assist. And the tone from Oats, who already was a megadouche, is even worse.

Thank Gene for Andy Kennedy and the fine young men that represent our university. I'd rather see them throw it away in transition than throw away someone's life like it means nothing.

Let's not get too high and mighty. We don't hangout with any of these guys, so all it takes is one incident to eat crow.
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This situation is weird to me. The text Miller got would indicate the Gun would be used in sometype of bad manner, and it’s odd that his car was alleged to be blocking in the victim from leaving. I don’t know if he did anything illegal but it’s odd to bring a gun to a buddy at 1 in the morning after getting a text saying something along the lines of someone was testing him. Very odd situation
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(02-22-2023 08:54 AM)Golden-Ticket Wrote:  This situation is weird to me. The text Miller got would indicate the Gun would be used in sometype of bad manner, and it’s odd that his car was alleged to be blocking in the victim from leaving. I don’t know if he did anything illegal but it’s odd to bring a gun to a buddy at 1 in the morning after getting a text saying something along the lines of someone was testing him. Very odd situation

I cannot fathom how bringing the gun alone didn't bring a charge, much less blocking the guy in. I think the DA saying "that's not a question I can answer" says all you need to know. She's operating under orders from above

There's two sets of rules, those for normal people and those who bring in money for those in power. This guy is bringing in the cash for the university, so he gets the special rules
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It's not just odd, it's pretty damn blatant to me. He's a full blown accomplice to murder at worst, and at a minimum, he is at least peripherally involved in a murder - you can argue intent, knowledge of what was going to happen, etc. Both situations warrant no longer being on the team immediately, and an investigation into the coach and the AD. It's obvious they knew about this all along. Disgusting all around.

We all live in glass houses, but to my knowledge, no UAB player has murdered someone while at the school, had teammates help him murder someone while at the school, and then have the coach and the AD cover it up or ignore it. And WTF is up with the DA in Tuscacloosa? How the F is this guy not charged with something in connection to this murder? It all stinks. Gives me much more objective reason to hate Bama.
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(02-22-2023 09:15 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  It's not just odd, it's pretty damn blatant to me. He's a full blown accomplice to murder at worst, and at a minimum, he is at least peripherally involved in a murder - you can argue intent, knowledge of what was going to happen, etc. Both situations warrant no longer being on the team immediately, and an investigation into the coach and the AD. It's obvious they knew about this all along. Disgusting all around.

We all live in glass houses, but to my knowledge, no UAB player has murdered someone while at the school, had teammates help him murder someone while at the school, and then have the coach and the AD cover it up or ignore it. And WTF is up with the DA in Tuscacloosa? How the F is this guy not charged with something in connection to this murder? It all stinks. Gives me much more objective reason to hate Bama.

The answer to your last question is in your question....the DA in TUSCALOOSA
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(02-22-2023 09:27 AM)jaymay2525 Wrote:  
(02-22-2023 09:15 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  It's not just odd, it's pretty damn blatant to me. He's a full blown accomplice to murder at worst, and at a minimum, he is at least peripherally involved in a murder - you can argue intent, knowledge of what was going to happen, etc. Both situations warrant no longer being on the team immediately, and an investigation into the coach and the AD. It's obvious they knew about this all along. Disgusting all around.

We all live in glass houses, but to my knowledge, no UAB player has murdered someone while at the school, had teammates help him murder someone while at the school, and then have the coach and the AD cover it up or ignore it. And WTF is up with the DA in Tuscacloosa? How the F is this guy not charged with something in connection to this murder? It all stinks. Gives me much more objective reason to hate Bama.

The answer to your last question is in your question....the DA in TUSCALOOSA

deep down I know that... but it's still just so dumbfoundingly immoral to me.
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(02-21-2023 05:24 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(02-21-2023 05:19 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  
(02-21-2023 04:41 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  
Nate Oats Wrote:Can't control everything everybody does outside of practice.

Are you FN kidding me? This isn't just careless activity. He made a block and an assist. And the tone from Oats, who already was a megadouche, is even worse.

Thank Gene for Andy Kennedy and the fine young men that represent our university. I'd rather see them throw it away in transition than throw away someone's life like it means nothing.

Oates with one of the more ridiculous, tone-deaf statements I've ever heard.

Also, the University has known about these details for awhile. In the same season that three players were involved in/at a murder scene, Oates gets a big raise and ccontract extension.
Pretty sure that raise and extension came *after* the murder

You could have videotape proof that Nick Saban was second in command of Al Qaeda in August of 2001 and it wouldn't matter. Just win, nothing else matters

That's how it works in trAiler trAsh nAtion. Roll Tide.
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The DA does have a Bs from Auburn
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(02-22-2023 10:13 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(02-22-2023 09:27 AM)jaymay2525 Wrote:  
(02-22-2023 09:15 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  It's not just odd, it's pretty damn blatant to me. He's a full blown accomplice to murder at worst, and at a minimum, he is at least peripherally involved in a murder - you can argue intent, knowledge of what was going to happen, etc. Both situations warrant no longer being on the team immediately, and an investigation into the coach and the AD. It's obvious they knew about this all along. Disgusting all around.

We all live in glass houses, but to my knowledge, no UAB player has murdered someone while at the school, had teammates help him murder someone while at the school, and then have the coach and the AD cover it up or ignore it. And WTF is up with the DA in Tuscacloosa? How the F is this guy not charged with something in connection to this murder? It all stinks. Gives me much more objective reason to hate Bama.

The answer to your last question is in your question....the DA in TUSCALOOSA

deep down I know that... but it's still just so dumbfoundingly immoral to me.

I totally get that. I'm always ready to believe the bammers to be morally, financially and ethically corrupt, because they've proven so over the years. But this is a new low even for them.

To convict Miles of capital murder, there must be pre-meditation or another accompanying felony (I did not attend law school, I only covered trials as a journalist but this is my layman's understanding). I don't see the related felony (someone was killed in the course of a robbery, for example). Nor was Ms. Harris a law enforcement officer.

I would think that the pre-meditation element relies heavily on the text from Miles to Miller telling him to bring the gun. And it is a weighty piece of evidence for same. Handguns, the philosopher Van Zant tells us, were made for killing.

And yet Miller, who delivered the murder weapon (which seems to fall comfortably under "aid and abet"), is not a co-conspirator? This state has executed people for seemingly less.

Like you, I expect the worst from bammerdom, but this level of seeming corruption boggles even my mind.
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(02-22-2023 10:41 AM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  The DA does have a Bs from Auburn

Yeah, but the J.D. is from UAT, trumping the Auburn BS.

Asst. DA is UAT all the way through.
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(02-22-2023 10:46 AM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  
(02-22-2023 10:41 AM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  The DA does have a Bs from Auburn

Yeah, but the J.D. is from UAT, trumping the Auburn BS.

Asst. DA is UAT all the way through.

i bet they have direct deposit setup through Bryant Bank too.
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The national news sources are all covering this now. I can't imagine that Miller survives the season, and I wonder if Oates/Byrne don't end up facing heat.

Of course, there's not a lot of shame or conscience in Tuscaloosa, so they will probably just take the PR hit, as long as they are winning.
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(02-22-2023 10:52 AM)bftb Wrote:  The national news sources are all covering this now. I can't imagine that Miller survives the season, and I wonder if Oates/Byrne don't end up facing heat.

Of course, there's not a lot of shame or conscience in Tuscaloosa, so they will probably just take the PR hit, as long as they are winning.

https://sports.yahoo.com/alabamas-brando...07398.html
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I'd imagine Sard Vernon will start to put out the spin. They did such a good job on the UAB fb program spin
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(02-22-2023 10:45 AM)58-56 Wrote:  To convict Miles of capital murder, there must be pre-meditation or another accompanying felony (I did not attend law school, I only covered trials as a journalist but this is my layman's understanding). I don't see the related felony (someone was killed in the course of a robbery, for example). Nor was Ms. Harris a law enforcement officer.

Killing someone in their vehicle is a capital offense. (As is killing someone from your vehicle. The statute stems from the drive-by craze of the '80s and '90s.)

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(a) The following are capital offenses:
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(17) Murder committed by or through the use of a deadly weapon while the victim is in a vehicle.
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(02-22-2023 10:46 AM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  
(02-22-2023 10:41 AM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  The DA does have a Bs from Auburn

Yeah, but the J.D. is from UAT, trumping the Auburn BS.

Asst. DA is UAT all the way through.

No, that's never the way it goes. Loyalties always lie with the undergrad school. Now, I'm not saying that there might not be influence, what with it being Tuscaloosa and all. But there's a LOT of Auburn grads who go to UAT for law school because it's the best in the state and cheaper than Cumberland and Jones, and I assure you that doesn't turn them into bammers.
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