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When I went to my weekly visit to my favorite local pizza place yesterday, the town Xavier fan was waiting for me just to brag about how much better Xavier's baseball team is than UC's. And to nebtion the NCAA basketball tournament again.

What a strange man he is.

(06-01-2023 09:24 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  The only thing wrong with UC baseball is the continually lack of ability to attract top notch pitching.....

Well that is half of the game.

(06-01-2023 01:38 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  When I went to my weekly visit to my favorite local pizza place yesterday, the town Xavier fan was waiting for me just to brag about how much better Xavier's baseball team is than UC's. And to nebtion the NCAA basketball tournament again.

What a strange man he is.

Did you point out we swept XU this year, including once by a score of 19-6.

Should UC go steal the X baseball coach once again? LOL.

Any rumblings out there on potential candidates?

(06-05-2023 02:15 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Should UC go steal the X baseball coach once again? LOL.

Any rumblings out there on potential candidates?

No- Cunningham is once again in stealth mode.

(06-05-2023 02:15 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Should UC go steal the X baseball coach once again? LOL.

Any rumblings out there on potential candidates?

Watching bits and pieces of the NCAA baseball games last weekend, there certainly are plenty of G5 schools representing and playing good baseball. For those schools, is this that one special team in 50 years or have some found a way to sustain success in this sport?

It does seem a coach who has emerged with multiple postseason season appearances in the G5 would find Cincinnati's facilities and Big 12 membership a step up the ladder. I do trust Cunningham to be thoughtful about the process and make a quality selection.

(06-08-2023 09:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Watching bits and pieces of the NCAA baseball games last weekend, there certainly are plenty of G5 schools representing and playing good baseball. For those schools, is this that one special team in 50 years or have some found a way to sustain success in this sport?

It does seem a coach who has emerged with multiple postseason season appearances in the G5 would find Cincinnati's facilities and Big 12 membership a step up the ladder. I do trust Cunningham to be thoughtful about the process and make a quality selection.

How many are above the Mason-Dixon Line? Baseball is one of those sports that has way more random power programs than any other, given that being in an area where snow doesn't fall instantly makes you more likely to be successful.

(06-01-2023 01:38 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  When I went to my weekly visit to my favorite local pizza place yesterday, the town Xavier fan was waiting for me just to brag about how much better Xavier's baseball team is than UC's. And to nebtion the NCAA basketball tournament again.

What a strange man he is.

You should have not said a word, walked right up to him and slugged him in the gut.

(06-08-2023 10:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 09:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Watching bits and pieces of the NCAA baseball games last weekend, there certainly are plenty of G5 schools representing and playing good baseball. For those schools, is this that one special team in 50 years or have some found a way to sustain success in this sport?

It does seem a coach who has emerged with multiple postseason season appearances in the G5 would find Cincinnati's facilities and Big 12 membership a step up the ladder. I do trust Cunningham to be thoughtful about the process and make a quality selection.

How many are above the Mason-Dixon Line? Baseball is one of those sports that has way more random power programs than any other, given that being in an area where snow doesn't fall instantly makes you more likely to be successful.

One in the final 16, Indiana State

(06-08-2023 10:14 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 10:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 09:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Watching bits and pieces of the NCAA baseball games last weekend, there certainly are plenty of G5 schools representing and playing good baseball. For those schools, is this that one special team in 50 years or have some found a way to sustain success in this sport?

It does seem a coach who has emerged with multiple postseason season appearances in the G5 would find Cincinnati's facilities and Big 12 membership a step up the ladder. I do trust Cunningham to be thoughtful about the process and make a quality selection.

How many are above the Mason-Dixon Line? Baseball is one of those sports that has way more random power programs than any other, given that being in an area where snow doesn't fall instantly makes you more likely to be successful.

One in the final 16, Indiana State

Correct. But 30 non-P5 schools were invited including plenty from above the Mason-Dixon Line. To name a few: X, Northeastern, UCONN, Central Connecticut, Eastern IL, Indiana State, and Wright State.

I realize that getting there from mid-major or low-major conferences may often be a cakewalk for teams with a pulse. But my point is, what will it take for UC to field a competitive baseball team and reach the postseason? The B12 will be more challenging than anything those 30 schools faced. Alternately, P5 resources, conference prestige, and higher profile games should turn heads for quality Tri-state players who have signed on with X, Wright State, or Indiana State in recent years.

(06-08-2023 01:36 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 10:14 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 10:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 09:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Watching bits and pieces of the NCAA baseball games last weekend, there certainly are plenty of G5 schools representing and playing good baseball. For those schools, is this that one special team in 50 years or have some found a way to sustain success in this sport?

It does seem a coach who has emerged with multiple postseason season appearances in the G5 would find Cincinnati's facilities and Big 12 membership a step up the ladder. I do trust Cunningham to be thoughtful about the process and make a quality selection.

How many are above the Mason-Dixon Line? Baseball is one of those sports that has way more random power programs than any other, given that being in an area where snow doesn't fall instantly makes you more likely to be successful.

One in the final 16, Indiana State

Correct. But 30 non-P5 schools were invited including plenty from above the Mason-Dixon Line. To name a few: X, Northeastern, UCONN, Central Connecticut, Eastern IL, Indiana State, and Wright State.

I realize that getting there from mid-major or low-major conferences may often be a cakewalk for teams with a pulse. But my point is, what will it take for UC to field a competitive baseball team and reach the postseason? The B12 will be more challenging than anything those 30 schools faced. Alternately, P5 resources, conference prestige, and higher profile games should turn heads for quality Tri-state players who have signed on with X, Wright State, or Indiana State in recent years.

None of those listed are in conferences with southern teams included in them and all of them were auto-bids based on being conference champions. Also, every one of those schools don't have FBS football tied to them, which means they can funnel more of their money (comparatively) to baseball or other lower-revenue sports.

UC is in an extremely tough situation, and it's about to get much tougher, in that they are a northern team playing in an elite conference against more southern teams than any other. The only team who has done much of anything in a similar situation is Louisville, and they don't have an MLB team in market to contend with for attendance/interest (don't try to convince me that town cares about the Bats, AAA draw peanuts everywhere).

Didn’t WVU win the Big XII Baseball Championship this year? Weather in Morgantown is abysmal February thru Mid-May.

(06-08-2023 01:51 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 01:36 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 10:14 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 10:01 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-08-2023 09:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Watching bits and pieces of the NCAA baseball games last weekend, there certainly are plenty of G5 schools representing and playing good baseball. For those schools, is this that one special team in 50 years or have some found a way to sustain success in this sport?

It does seem a coach who has emerged with multiple postseason season appearances in the G5 would find Cincinnati's facilities and Big 12 membership a step up the ladder. I do trust Cunningham to be thoughtful about the process and make a quality selection.

How many are above the Mason-Dixon Line? Baseball is one of those sports that has way more random power programs than any other, given that being in an area where snow doesn't fall instantly makes you more likely to be successful.

One in the final 16, Indiana State

Correct. But 30 non-P5 schools were invited including plenty from above the Mason-Dixon Line. To name a few: X, Northeastern, UCONN, Central Connecticut, Eastern IL, Indiana State, and Wright State.

I realize that getting there from mid-major or low-major conferences may often be a cakewalk for teams with a pulse. But my point is, what will it take for UC to field a competitive baseball team and reach the postseason? The B12 will be more challenging than anything those 30 schools faced. Alternately, P5 resources, conference prestige, and higher profile games should turn heads for quality Tri-state players who have signed on with X, Wright State, or Indiana State in recent years.

None of those listed are in conferences with southern teams included in them and all of them were auto-bids based on being conference champions. Also, every one of those schools don't have FBS football tied to them, which means they can funnel more of their money (comparatively) to baseball or other lower-revenue sports.

UC is in an extremely tough situation, and it's about to get much tougher, in that they are a northern team playing in an elite conference against more southern teams than any other. The only team who has done much of anything in a similar situation is Louisville, and they don't have an MLB team in market to contend with for attendance/interest (don't try to convince me that town cares about the Bats, AAA draw peanuts everywhere).

I'd argue that it's more likely the Bats compete with the Cardinals more than the Reds compete with the Bearcats.

I'm a person that loves baseball of all types. You'd need people like me or alums to fill that stadium. Given the choice of either off the beaten path event, I'd go to a Bats game.

Saw this on Twitter today:

Ryan Nicholson
@rynicholson25
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2h
Due to the uncertainty of the future UC coaching staff, I am entering the transfer portal and keeping all options open, including a return to UC

Incoming side:

Two Moeller baseball champions heading to UC's Bearcats, Big 12


I guess it might be crazy to think of Held as a candidate for HC, but I wonder if he'd be a fit as an assistant. 5 State Championships is nothing to sneeze at.

(06-12-2023 03:51 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Incoming side:

Two Moeller baseball champions heading to UC's Bearcats, Big 12


I guess it might be crazy to think of Held as a candidate for HC, but I wonder if he'd be a fit as an assistant. 5 State Championships is nothing to sneeze at.

An interesting take.

Not being sarcastic here, but I suppose Moeller recruits kids to build such teams? Or else he's just a spectacular on-field coach/manager? Either way, he's very accomplished and wired in to the Greater Cincinnati high school baseball scene.

Is there enough local talent in our area to build a foundation? That I don't know. I suspect JC will go with a mid-major coach who got the job done consistently at that level.

There was an article in D1baseball.com today talking about candidates. It mentioned the Texas Tech recruiting coordinator, the Kent State head coach, the Wofford head coach, the South Carolina pitching coach, the West Virginia recruiting coordinator, Central Michigan's head coach and Boston College's recruiting coordinator as the candidates Cunningham is looking at.

Just curious, what’s the going rate for a UC baseball coach nowadays?

(06-14-2023 07:55 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  Just curious, what’s the going rate for a UC baseball coach nowadays?

Great question. I don't know but suspect any viable candidate will have an agent who will examine published salaries for the Big 12 and use that as a basis for negotiation. As with all future hiring of coaches across all sports, coaching salaries will be substantially more than AAC benchmarks. P5 doubling or tripling of revenue isn't all a windfall; the cost to compete rises too.