(05-23-2023 01:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 11:19 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(05-22-2023 10:42 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-22-2023 07:44 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(05-22-2023 06:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  All that's left of the push back is you 3 clowns. Too dumb to get it through your thick skulls that saying that Rudd and the admin were told that we were in, was factual.

Just you three clowns left, and you are the most hilarious. Fire Penny and beg the NCAA for mercy. Your delicate feminine digestive system forcing you to stop watching us every January because we suck so bad. Predicting that we won't even make the NIT.

Quite the Nostradamus

Can you post that article again with the quote from Tubbys lawyer? You know the one you claim “made you correct” about Memphis getting in the b12 even though we didn’t. I love those mental gymnastics

It doesn't matter that Smith and the lawyer said the university brass told them, that the BIG 12 told them that we were in .

What we want to see is where ANYONE in the university has publicly stated that the BIG 12 lied to them that we were in

Fact is IF the BIG 12 had told MEMPHIS brass that we were in ----they would have put a hard gag order on MEMPHIS brass not to tell a soul so it wouldn't leak

Fact if the BIG 12 had told the MEMPHIS brass not to tell anybody--then how STUPID it would have been to them to confide that info to a coach in the BIG 12 that we were trying to hire,

Fact is --it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE all over town that MEMPHIS was trying to hire Smith --to HELP GET IN THE BIG 12--NOT because we were already told we were in . If we were already told we were in then why hire Smith.

Fact the MEMPHIS brass was just speculating when they told Smith that we were in

Fact- it is 100% FALSE that Smith contacted MEMPHIS about our job opening --in spite of O-FER repeating over and over that Smith contacted the university first about the opening. The university contacted Smith first.

Fact- O-FER posted REPEATEDLY for MONTHS that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati

Fact-O-FER posted REPEATEDLY for MONTHS that NOBODY wanted Houston

Fact -true to O-FER' M.O.-(after being called out for being WRONG by posters on our beloved site) -he is now crawfishing and walking back all those MONTHS of posting

Fact--true to form his M.O.---he is NOW PROCLAIMING that all those months of posting his predictions ---- they NEVER REALLY was his beliefs or predictions --RATHER he was only QUOTING what the MEMPHIS brass was saying

Fact if O-FER is correct LOL---then one would have to believe that-- A) The BIG 12 told the MEMPHIS brass that we were #2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati--meaning the SEC/BIG 10/ACC etc EVERYBODY's list-- B) that the BIG 12 told the MEMPHIS brass that nobody wanted Houston

Fact--if we were in fact #2 on everybody's list ---then Houston getting in would have knocked either UCF/BYU off the list not MEMPHIS

Fact if O-FER is correct LOL---then all the MEMPHIS brass--you know (all those great contacts O-FER has now admitted was 100% WRONG---the great contacts that O-FER is now blaming for looking like an IDIOT on this board) . all those contacts were naively led down the garden path ----were spreading it all over town what the BIG 12 had told them most assuredly in private with a gag order

Fact-- the caliber of men that O-fer is now blaming for his months and months of INACCURATE posts -----doesn't seem to me the types of men --that -IF TOLD BY THE BIG 12 that we were #2 on everybody's list only behind CINN---and nobody wanted Houston-they don't seem like the type of men to go spreading that information around all over town------those type of men didn't get to were they are/were by having loose lips

Fact---those men were SPECULATING just like O-FER was----and just like I was when I posted the thread titled "THe reputation of a city".

Fact HOPE--maybe we will be/actually are #2 on everybody's list this next go round--hope so--maybe we are/will be

Question---getting in the BIG 12-Knowing that our football record will suffer greatly----and most likely our basketball record as well . We will have about the same chance as Mistake/OlePizz/Iowa State etc etc to get in the FB playoffs ----would we rather be in the AAC with a better chance to get in the playoffs playing crappy teams-----or probably never a chance to get to the playoffs and play real teams

Someday maybe ALL conference winners will automatically be included in the playoffs ---conversely maybe someday they change it that ONLY power 5 teams go to the playoffs thus eliminating the G5. At that point the G5 teams start their own playoffs--------power 5 playoffs --G5 playoffs

Knowing that our records will suffer greatly we have to get in a power 5 anyway --otherwise if they someday exclude g5 teams from the playoffs we will be the equivalent of division 2

However what if they start giving ALL CONFERENCE winners a spot in the playoffs ----would we rather be in a lesser conference like the AAC with a lot better chance of the playoffs--or the BIG12 with a much much lesser chance to go to the playoffs

I do think IF WE EVER get in a Power conference or if they start giving EVERY CONFERENCE WINNER an automatic spot in the playoffs ---that our recruiting will go through the roof --local and mid south players that normally go elsewhere will start staying home and playing for the MEMPHIS TIGERS

Game. Set. Match.

Your hero is a liar? Yes or no?

No. You aren't my hero. Sorry to disappoint.

(05-23-2023 01:01 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 01:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 11:19 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(05-22-2023 10:42 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-22-2023 07:44 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Can you post that article again with the quote from Tubbys lawyer? You know the one you claim “made you correct” about Memphis getting in the b12 even though we didn’t. I love those mental gymnastics

It doesn't matter that Smith and the lawyer said the university brass told them, that the BIG 12 told them that we were in .

What we want to see is where ANYONE in the university has publicly stated that the BIG 12 lied to them that we were in

Fact is IF the BIG 12 had told MEMPHIS brass that we were in ----they would have put a hard gag order on MEMPHIS brass not to tell a soul so it wouldn't leak

Fact if the BIG 12 had told the MEMPHIS brass not to tell anybody--then how STUPID it would have been to them to confide that info to a coach in the BIG 12 that we were trying to hire,

Fact is --it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE all over town that MEMPHIS was trying to hire Smith --to HELP GET IN THE BIG 12--NOT because we were already told we were in . If we were already told we were in then why hire Smith.

Fact the MEMPHIS brass was just speculating when they told Smith that we were in

Fact- it is 100% FALSE that Smith contacted MEMPHIS about our job opening --in spite of O-FER repeating over and over that Smith contacted the university first about the opening. The university contacted Smith first.

Fact- O-FER posted REPEATEDLY for MONTHS that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati

Fact-O-FER posted REPEATEDLY for MONTHS that NOBODY wanted Houston

Fact -true to O-FER' M.O.-(after being called out for being WRONG by posters on our beloved site) -he is now crawfishing and walking back all those MONTHS of posting

Fact--true to form his M.O.---he is NOW PROCLAIMING that all those months of posting his predictions ---- they NEVER REALLY was his beliefs or predictions --RATHER he was only QUOTING what the MEMPHIS brass was saying

Fact if O-FER is correct LOL---then one would have to believe that-- A) The BIG 12 told the MEMPHIS brass that we were #2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati--meaning the SEC/BIG 10/ACC etc EVERYBODY's list-- B) that the BIG 12 told the MEMPHIS brass that nobody wanted Houston

Fact--if we were in fact #2 on everybody's list ---then Houston getting in would have knocked either UCF/BYU off the list not MEMPHIS

Fact if O-FER is correct LOL---then all the MEMPHIS brass--you know (all those great contacts O-FER has now admitted was 100% WRONG---the great contacts that O-FER is now blaming for looking like an IDIOT on this board) . all those contacts were naively led down the garden path ----were spreading it all over town what the BIG 12 had told them most assuredly in private with a gag order

Fact-- the caliber of men that O-fer is now blaming for his months and months of INACCURATE posts -----doesn't seem to me the types of men --that -IF TOLD BY THE BIG 12 that we were #2 on everybody's list only behind CINN---and nobody wanted Houston-they don't seem like the type of men to go spreading that information around all over town------those type of men didn't get to were they are/were by having loose lips

Fact---those men were SPECULATING just like O-FER was----and just like I was when I posted the thread titled "THe reputation of a city".

Fact HOPE--maybe we will be/actually are #2 on everybody's list this next go round--hope so--maybe we are/will be

Question---getting in the BIG 12-Knowing that our football record will suffer greatly----and most likely our basketball record as well . We will have about the same chance as Mistake/OlePizz/Iowa State etc etc to get in the FB playoffs ----would we rather be in the AAC with a better chance to get in the playoffs playing crappy teams-----or probably never a chance to get to the playoffs and play real teams

Someday maybe ALL conference winners will automatically be included in the playoffs ---conversely maybe someday they change it that ONLY power 5 teams go to the playoffs thus eliminating the G5. At that point the G5 teams start their own playoffs--------power 5 playoffs --G5 playoffs

Knowing that our records will suffer greatly we have to get in a power 5 anyway --otherwise if they someday exclude g5 teams from the playoffs we will be the equivalent of division 2

However what if they start giving ALL CONFERENCE winners a spot in the playoffs ----would we rather be in a lesser conference like the AAC with a lot better chance of the playoffs--or the BIG12 with a much much lesser chance to go to the playoffs

I do think IF WE EVER get in a Power conference or if they start giving EVERY CONFERENCE WINNER an automatic spot in the playoffs ---that our recruiting will go through the roof --local and mid south players that normally go elsewhere will start staying home and playing for the MEMPHIS TIGERS

Game. Set. Match.

Your hero is a liar? Yes or no?

No. You aren't my hero. Sorry to disappoint.

The most simple things confuse you.

Tubby is a liar? Yes or no?

(05-23-2023 01:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 01:01 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 01:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 11:19 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(05-22-2023 10:42 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  It doesn't matter that Smith and the lawyer said the university brass told them, that the BIG 12 told them that we were in .

What we want to see is where ANYONE in the university has publicly stated that the BIG 12 lied to them that we were in

Fact is IF the BIG 12 had told MEMPHIS brass that we were in ----they would have put a hard gag order on MEMPHIS brass not to tell a soul so it wouldn't leak

Fact if the BIG 12 had told the MEMPHIS brass not to tell anybody--then how STUPID it would have been to them to confide that info to a coach in the BIG 12 that we were trying to hire,

Fact is --it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE all over town that MEMPHIS was trying to hire Smith --to HELP GET IN THE BIG 12--NOT because we were already told we were in . If we were already told we were in then why hire Smith.

Fact the MEMPHIS brass was just speculating when they told Smith that we were in

Fact- it is 100% FALSE that Smith contacted MEMPHIS about our job opening --in spite of O-FER repeating over and over that Smith contacted the university first about the opening. The university contacted Smith first.

Fact- O-FER posted REPEATEDLY for MONTHS that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati

Fact-O-FER posted REPEATEDLY for MONTHS that NOBODY wanted Houston

Fact -true to O-FER' M.O.-(after being called out for being WRONG by posters on our beloved site) -he is now crawfishing and walking back all those MONTHS of posting

Fact--true to form his M.O.---he is NOW PROCLAIMING that all those months of posting his predictions ---- they NEVER REALLY was his beliefs or predictions --RATHER he was only QUOTING what the MEMPHIS brass was saying

Fact if O-FER is correct LOL---then one would have to believe that-- A) The BIG 12 told the MEMPHIS brass that we were #2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati--meaning the SEC/BIG 10/ACC etc EVERYBODY's list-- B) that the BIG 12 told the MEMPHIS brass that nobody wanted Houston

Fact--if we were in fact #2 on everybody's list ---then Houston getting in would have knocked either UCF/BYU off the list not MEMPHIS

Fact if O-FER is correct LOL---then all the MEMPHIS brass--you know (all those great contacts O-FER has now admitted was 100% WRONG---the great contacts that O-FER is now blaming for looking like an IDIOT on this board) . all those contacts were naively led down the garden path ----were spreading it all over town what the BIG 12 had told them most assuredly in private with a gag order

Fact-- the caliber of men that O-fer is now blaming for his months and months of INACCURATE posts -----doesn't seem to me the types of men --that -IF TOLD BY THE BIG 12 that we were #2 on everybody's list only behind CINN---and nobody wanted Houston-they don't seem like the type of men to go spreading that information around all over town------those type of men didn't get to were they are/were by having loose lips

Fact---those men were SPECULATING just like O-FER was----and just like I was when I posted the thread titled "THe reputation of a city".

Fact HOPE--maybe we will be/actually are #2 on everybody's list this next go round--hope so--maybe we are/will be

Question---getting in the BIG 12-Knowing that our football record will suffer greatly----and most likely our basketball record as well . We will have about the same chance as Mistake/OlePizz/Iowa State etc etc to get in the FB playoffs ----would we rather be in the AAC with a better chance to get in the playoffs playing crappy teams-----or probably never a chance to get to the playoffs and play real teams

Someday maybe ALL conference winners will automatically be included in the playoffs ---conversely maybe someday they change it that ONLY power 5 teams go to the playoffs thus eliminating the G5. At that point the G5 teams start their own playoffs--------power 5 playoffs --G5 playoffs

Knowing that our records will suffer greatly we have to get in a power 5 anyway --otherwise if they someday exclude g5 teams from the playoffs we will be the equivalent of division 2

However what if they start giving ALL CONFERENCE winners a spot in the playoffs ----would we rather be in a lesser conference like the AAC with a lot better chance of the playoffs--or the BIG12 with a much much lesser chance to go to the playoffs

I do think IF WE EVER get in a Power conference or if they start giving EVERY CONFERENCE WINNER an automatic spot in the playoffs ---that our recruiting will go through the roof --local and mid south players that normally go elsewhere will start staying home and playing for the MEMPHIS TIGERS

Game. Set. Match.

Your hero is a liar? Yes or no?

No. You aren't my hero. Sorry to disappoint.

The most simple things confuse you.

Tubby is a liar? Yes or no?

What is it like to have your entire existence revolve around trying to "win" a discussion on an internet message board?

I apologize for causing you so much consternation. Best wishes.

(05-23-2023 01:13 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 01:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 01:01 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 01:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 11:19 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

Your hero is a liar? Yes or no?

No. You aren't my hero. Sorry to disappoint.

The most simple things confuse you.

Tubby is a liar? Yes or no?

What is it like to have your entire existence revolve around trying to "win" a discussion on an internet message board?

I apologize for causing you so much consternation. Best wishes.

Simple question.

A) Tubby was lying
B) Tubby was telling the truth

A or B?

Another thread down the drain.

(05-23-2023 02:24 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  Another thread down the drain.

And, there is one consant the overwhelming majority of the time...

I've never understood one man's fascination with being proven correct on the internet.

(05-23-2023 03:45 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  I've never understood one man's fascination with being proven correct on the internet.

I was minding my own business. Clown #1 came in at post #71. Clown #2 came in out of nowhere at post #350, clown #3 has been talking about amateur curling, how nobody likes soccer, and how he doesn't care if the Grizzlies leave. Feel free to point out a single post in this thread where any of them have anything that makes any sense.

It is what it is.

(05-23-2023 03:27 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 02:24 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  Another thread down the drain.

And, there is one consant the overwhelming majority of the time...

The one constant? The one constant is that you cry like a little baby in every single thread. I've made a ton of posts in this thread with normal posters. The 3 of you aren't normal. This is your spectacular contribution. Crying like a little baby, and arguing with every single poster about soccer and God knows what about curling, DePaul, car racing.

Quote:Why do we care anything about lower level semi-pro soccer, that draws flies? Let them play at Crump or some high school stadium.

Quote:Sorry. I just don't think the "pro" soccer league that is even below the MLS, which itself is way down on the list of pro soccer leagues, should be a concern. At all. But, that's me and maybe I'm in the minority?

Quote:I've heard that from soccer folks since the late 1970's and here we are in 2023.I equate the soccer is about to explode to the climate change topic.

Quote:Maybe. I will admit that my buddy has gotten me into the Tottenham Hotspurs and I actually watch some Premier League from time to time.

Quote:So, we have a team in a league that is below the 9th-15th ranked league in the world in that sport and we think it'd be a good idea to invest in that, in hopes of getting a team in the 9th-15th ranked league in that sport?

Look...I know you soccer dudes are full of "passion and creativity", but c'mon. If we had a Top 20 list of things to throw money at, soccer shouldn't be close to making the list.

Quote:Oh, I get it. Soccer is huge in the rest of the world. But, it's not in the U.S. and likely never will be. Nothing personal.

Quote:Are one of those 200 countries in Tennessee?

Quote:LMAO! It's good to be back. I'll get out of the way so you and the legions of Memphians yearning for soccer don't run me over!

Quote:If I were the King of Memphis, every single dollar would go to facilities that directly support Tiger football and basketball. Us getting to the P5 is the only priority. But, that's just me.

Quote:Like I said, the prediction that soccer would take over in the USA has been going on since I was a child 40+ years ago. But who knows, maybe this decade will be the one!

Quote:Why would we be talking MLS numbers when discussing the USL team in Memphis? That would be the epitome of stupidity. For someone to do that, they'd have to be a complete moron or simply just a troll that is intentionally trying to stir the pot.

Quote:Now, let's hope that most/all of the money is spent to better University of Memphis facilities and not some crap for minor league soccer or amateur curling

Quote:IF we get a P5 caliber football stadium and improved FEF, then no I'm not worried about a soccer stadium. You are correct. My only point is that the Tigers come first and foremost. Any leftovers can go to minor league sports.

Quote:Right. That's something that non-Memphians don't understand. It wouldn't be a surprise to see the University get the shaft and a brand new 300 million dollar rugby complex go up next to the Pyramid. My hope is that the University gets the lion share, but I wouldn't wager my house on it.

Quote:If anyone thought that the Tigers were going to the main beneficiary of the funds, that person knows nothing about Memphis. But yeah, let's discuss how much of the funds should go to minor league soccer.

Quote:Honestly, I don't even care about the Grizzlies. They can hit the road, for all I care. If the majority of the money goes to other areas than the Tigers and we don't get to join the P5 club in the near future, we'll become Depaul or St. Louis.

Quote:Yes. If we don't get in the club soon, our football will eventually become as relevant as Depaul & St. Louis football.

Quote:The ONLY thing dumber than using the funds for minor league soccer would be using the funds for car racing.

Has there been a change I missed? I was under the impression that the $350 million in possible appropriations would only include money for the Forum and SLBS.

That money for a new 901FC stadium was not included.

As a sports fan, I support 901FC.

But as a fiscal conservative, I cannot support the use of tax dollars to build them a stadium

Especially with the many fiscal red flags.

In 2022 the USL saw a 30% increase in attendance compared to 2021.

However, in a year where 901FC was battling for the #1 overall seed in the playoffs, they were one of the few teams that saw an attendance decrease.

They're 20th out of 27 teams in attendance.

Four of the 7 teams below them are farm teams for MLS teams and play in the same market as the MLS teams.

One or two of the 7 play in an arena so small that it is impossible to make for one or two bad-weather games.

Even their TV broadcasts have been moved from the station's primary channel to one of the station's secondary channels.

Personally, I just don't trust their ownership group.

They have put out so many contradicting statements they make me think I'm listening to a Biden speech.

(05-23-2023 07:09 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Has there been a change I missed? I was under the impression that the $350 million in possible appropriations would only include money for the Forum and SLBS.

That money for a new 901FC stadium was not included.

As a sports fan, I support 901FC.

But as a fiscal conservative, I cannot support the use of tax dollars to build them a stadium

Especially with the many fiscal red flags.

In 2022 the USL saw a 30% increase in attendance compared to 2021.

However, in a year where 901FC was battling for the #1 overall seed in the playoffs, they were one of the few teams that saw an attendance decrease.

They're 20th out of 27 teams in attendance.

Four of the 7 teams below them are farm teams for MLS teams and play in the same market as the MLS teams.

One or two of the 7 play in an arena so small that it is impossible to make for one or two bad-weather games.

Even their TV broadcasts have been moved from the station's primary channel to one of the station's secondary channels.

Personally, I just don't trust their ownership group.

They have put out so many contradicting statements they make me think I'm listening to a Biden speech.

A stadium would for sure boost attendance, it's just a question of how much it will cost and if it's on the radar at all.

(05-23-2023 07:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:09 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Has there been a change I missed? I was under the impression that the $350 million in possible appropriations would only include money for the Forum and SLBS.

That money for a new 901FC stadium was not included.

As a sports fan, I support 901FC.

But as a fiscal conservative, I cannot support the use of tax dollars to build them a stadium

Especially with the many fiscal red flags.

In 2022 the USL saw a 30% increase in attendance compared to 2021.

However, in a year where 901FC was battling for the #1 overall seed in the playoffs, they were one of the few teams that saw an attendance decrease.

They're 20th out of 27 teams in attendance.

Four of the 7 teams below them are farm teams for MLS teams and play in the same market as the MLS teams.

One or two of the 7 play in an arena so small that it is impossible to make for one or two bad-weather games.

Even their TV broadcasts have been moved from the station's primary channel to one of the station's secondary channels.

Personally, I just don't trust their ownership group.

They have put out so many contradicting statements they make me think I'm listening to a Biden speech.

A stadium would for sure boost attendance, it's just a question of how much it will cost and if it's on the radar at all.

If back-to-back playoff runs didn't increase attendance.

Then a new stadium isn't going to do it.

Four years ago they were the new plaything for Memphis sports fans.

The newness has warned off and they're down to just their hardcore fan base.

Last year they averaged 3,683 a game.

I've seen widescreen views of crowds this year.

They're grossly fudging announced attendance numbers.

(05-23-2023 08:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:09 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Has there been a change I missed? I was under the impression that the $350 million in possible appropriations would only include money for the Forum and SLBS.

That money for a new 901FC stadium was not included.

As a sports fan, I support 901FC.

But as a fiscal conservative, I cannot support the use of tax dollars to build them a stadium

Especially with the many fiscal red flags.

In 2022 the USL saw a 30% increase in attendance compared to 2021.

However, in a year where 901FC was battling for the #1 overall seed in the playoffs, they were one of the few teams that saw an attendance decrease.

They're 20th out of 27 teams in attendance.

Four of the 7 teams below them are farm teams for MLS teams and play in the same market as the MLS teams.

One or two of the 7 play in an arena so small that it is impossible to make for one or two bad-weather games.

Even their TV broadcasts have been moved from the station's primary channel to one of the station's secondary channels.

Personally, I just don't trust their ownership group.

They have put out so many contradicting statements they make me think I'm listening to a Biden speech.

A stadium would for sure boost attendance, it's just a question of how much it will cost and if it's on the radar at all.

If back-to-back playoff runs didn't increase attendance.

Then a new stadium isn't going to do it.

Four years ago they were the new plaything for Memphis sports fans.

The newness has warned off and they're down to just their hardcore fan base.

Last year they averaged 3,683 a game.

I've seen widescreen views of crowds this year.

They're grossly fudging announced attendance numbers.

Have you ever been to a Grizzlies game? In person?

(05-23-2023 08:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:09 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Has there been a change I missed? I was under the impression that the $350 million in possible appropriations would only include money for the Forum and SLBS.

That money for a new 901FC stadium was not included.

As a sports fan, I support 901FC.

But as a fiscal conservative, I cannot support the use of tax dollars to build them a stadium

Especially with the many fiscal red flags.

In 2022 the USL saw a 30% increase in attendance compared to 2021.

However, in a year where 901FC was battling for the #1 overall seed in the playoffs, they were one of the few teams that saw an attendance decrease.

They're 20th out of 27 teams in attendance.

Four of the 7 teams below them are farm teams for MLS teams and play in the same market as the MLS teams.

One or two of the 7 play in an arena so small that it is impossible to make for one or two bad-weather games.

Even their TV broadcasts have been moved from the station's primary channel to one of the station's secondary channels.

Personally, I just don't trust their ownership group.

They have put out so many contradicting statements they make me think I'm listening to a Biden speech.

A stadium would for sure boost attendance, it's just a question of how much it will cost and if it's on the radar at all.

If back-to-back playoff runs didn't increase attendance.

Then a new stadium isn't going to do it.

Four years ago they were the new plaything for Memphis sports fans.

The newness has warned off and they're down to just their hardcore fan base.

Last year they averaged 3,683 a game.

I've seen widescreen views of crowds this year.

They're grossly fudging announced attendance numbers.

If they are playing at Autozone, the atmosphere is no good. A dedicated soccer stadium will improve attendance.

(05-23-2023 08:52 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 08:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:09 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Has there been a change I missed? I was under the impression that the $350 million in possible appropriations would only include money for the Forum and SLBS.

That money for a new 901FC stadium was not included.

As a sports fan, I support 901FC.

But as a fiscal conservative, I cannot support the use of tax dollars to build them a stadium

Especially with the many fiscal red flags.

In 2022 the USL saw a 30% increase in attendance compared to 2021.

However, in a year where 901FC was battling for the #1 overall seed in the playoffs, they were one of the few teams that saw an attendance decrease.

They're 20th out of 27 teams in attendance.

Four of the 7 teams below them are farm teams for MLS teams and play in the same market as the MLS teams.

One or two of the 7 play in an arena so small that it is impossible to make for one or two bad-weather games.

Even their TV broadcasts have been moved from the station's primary channel to one of the station's secondary channels.

Personally, I just don't trust their ownership group.

They have put out so many contradicting statements they make me think I'm listening to a Biden speech.

A stadium would for sure boost attendance, it's just a question of how much it will cost and if it's on the radar at all.

If back-to-back playoff runs didn't increase attendance.

Then a new stadium isn't going to do it.

Four years ago they were the new plaything for Memphis sports fans.

The newness has warned off and they're down to just their hardcore fan base.

Last year they averaged 3,683 a game.

I've seen widescreen views of crowds this year.

They're grossly fudging announced attendance numbers.

If they are playing at Autozone, the atmosphere is no good. A dedicated soccer stadium will improve attendance.

The atmosphere last year when they averaged 3,600 is exactly the same as it was in 2019 when they averaged 6,600.

The stadium is the same, the sight lines are the same, the concessions are the same.

EVERYTHING is the same as it was 4 years ago but attendance has dropped right at 50%.

Trying to blame it on the stadium is intellectually lazy.

(05-23-2023 09:28 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 08:52 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 08:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:09 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Has there been a change I missed? I was under the impression that the $350 million in possible appropriations would only include money for the Forum and SLBS.

That money for a new 901FC stadium was not included.

As a sports fan, I support 901FC.

But as a fiscal conservative, I cannot support the use of tax dollars to build them a stadium

Especially with the many fiscal red flags.

In 2022 the USL saw a 30% increase in attendance compared to 2021.

However, in a year where 901FC was battling for the #1 overall seed in the playoffs, they were one of the few teams that saw an attendance decrease.

They're 20th out of 27 teams in attendance.

Four of the 7 teams below them are farm teams for MLS teams and play in the same market as the MLS teams.

One or two of the 7 play in an arena so small that it is impossible to make for one or two bad-weather games.

Even their TV broadcasts have been moved from the station's primary channel to one of the station's secondary channels.

Personally, I just don't trust their ownership group.

They have put out so many contradicting statements they make me think I'm listening to a Biden speech.

A stadium would for sure boost attendance, it's just a question of how much it will cost and if it's on the radar at all.

If back-to-back playoff runs didn't increase attendance.

Then a new stadium isn't going to do it.

Four years ago they were the new plaything for Memphis sports fans.

The newness has warned off and they're down to just their hardcore fan base.

Last year they averaged 3,683 a game.

I've seen widescreen views of crowds this year.

They're grossly fudging announced attendance numbers.

If they are playing at Autozone, the atmosphere is no good. A dedicated soccer stadium will improve attendance.

The atmosphere last year when they averaged 3,600 is exactly the same as it was in 2019 when they averaged 6,600.

The stadium is the same, the sight lines are the same, the concessions are the same.

EVERYTHING is the same as it was 4 years ago but attendance has dropped right at 50%.

Trying to blame it on the stadium is intellectually lazy.

I don't even know where to start. Posters will say that I am mean.

(05-23-2023 11:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 09:28 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 08:52 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 08:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 07:30 PM)Stammers Wrote:  A stadium would for sure boost attendance, it's just a question of how much it will cost and if it's on the radar at all.

If back-to-back playoff runs didn't increase attendance.

Then a new stadium isn't going to do it.

Four years ago they were the new plaything for Memphis sports fans.

The newness has warned off and they're down to just their hardcore fan base.

Last year they averaged 3,683 a game.

I've seen widescreen views of crowds this year.

They're grossly fudging announced attendance numbers.

If they are playing at Autozone, the atmosphere is no good. A dedicated soccer stadium will improve attendance.

The atmosphere last year when they averaged 3,600 is exactly the same as it was in 2019 when they averaged 6,600.

The stadium is the same, the sight lines are the same, the concessions are the same.

EVERYTHING is the same as it was 4 years ago but attendance has dropped right at 50%.

Trying to blame it on the stadium is intellectually lazy.

I don't even know where to start. Posters will say that I am mean.

EVERY VARIABLE IS THE SAME between 2019 and 2022 but there is a 3,000 per game drop in attendance.

The only thing different is that the newness has faded.

When Auto Zone Park first opened Memphis and Sacramento battled for top spot in minor league attendance.

But once the newness wore off attendance faded.

Sacramento is still among the leaders in attendance but Memphis is near the bottom.

Look at other sports teams in town.

Pharaohs, Riverkings, and Xplorers, all started strong in attendance but soon after the team's appeal dropped to the point that they no longer exist.

As for as 901FC goes they're doing the exact same thing as the current owners over at Riverside are doing.

Relying solely on word of mouth from their core fanbase for promotion.

Only difference is that 901FC doesn't have over 70 years of history to fall back on.

(05-24-2023 01:54 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 11:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 09:28 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 08:52 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 08:02 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  If back-to-back playoff runs didn't increase attendance.

Then a new stadium isn't going to do it.

Four years ago they were the new plaything for Memphis sports fans.

The newness has warned off and they're down to just their hardcore fan base.

Last year they averaged 3,683 a game.

I've seen widescreen views of crowds this year.

They're grossly fudging announced attendance numbers.

If they are playing at Autozone, the atmosphere is no good. A dedicated soccer stadium will improve attendance.

The atmosphere last year when they averaged 3,600 is exactly the same as it was in 2019 when they averaged 6,600.

The stadium is the same, the sight lines are the same, the concessions are the same.

EVERYTHING is the same as it was 4 years ago but attendance has dropped right at 50%.

Trying to blame it on the stadium is intellectually lazy.

I don't even know where to start. Posters will say that I am mean.

EVERY VARIABLE IS THE SAME between 2019 and 2022 but there is a 3,000 per game drop in attendance.

The only thing different is that the newness has faded.

When Auto Zone Park first opened Memphis and Sacramento battled for top spot in minor league attendance.

But once the newness wore off attendance faded.

Sacramento is still among the leaders in attendance but Memphis is near the bottom.

Look at other sports teams in town.

Pharaohs, Riverkings, and Xplorers, all started strong in attendance but soon after the team's appeal dropped to the point that they no longer exist.

As for as 901FC goes they're doing the exact same thing as the current owners over at Riverside are doing.

Relying solely on word of mouth from their core fanbase for promotion.

Only difference is that 901FC doesn't have over 70 years of history to fall back on.

Again...I don't want to be mean.

(05-23-2023 05:01 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 03:45 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  I've never understood one man's fascination with being proven correct on the internet.

I was minding my own business. Clown #1 came in at post #71. Clown #2 came in out of nowhere at post #350, clown #3 has been talking about amateur curling, how nobody likes soccer, and how he doesn't care if the Grizzlies leave. Feel free to point out a single post in this thread where any of them have anything that makes any sense.

It is what it is.

There's this amazing thing you can do: ignore it.

(05-24-2023 08:18 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 05:01 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-23-2023 03:45 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  I've never understood one man's fascination with being proven correct on the internet.

I was minding my own business. Clown #1 came in at post #71. Clown #2 came in out of nowhere at post #350, clown #3 has been talking about amateur curling, how nobody likes soccer, and how he doesn't care if the Grizzlies leave. Feel free to point out a single post in this thread where any of them have anything that makes any sense.

It is what it is.

There's this amazing thing you can do: ignore it.

Everyone can, but it is incessant. I pretty much ignored/brushed off you trolling me in this thread, didn't I?