Dropped to 47 in the NET. Not ideal obviously but not catastrophic. Cincy now a quad 1 game. Win the rest, lose to Houston on the road, and circle the final game of the season at home and we will be fine
(02-04-2023 07:46 PM)Unionman76 Wrote: so our 2 games with houston have no meaning
We ain’t beating houston. Can’t even beat hapless Tulane
Someone hit the bottle earlier than usual.
I noticed you whined and complained about refs yet again in the game thread like an 8 yr old kid or 73 yr old lady who knows nothing about sports. “It’s the refs fault”. We choke away a 15 point lead in last 5 against a crap UCF team - Stammers blames the refs. We turn it over 20+ times and shoot 60% FT against lousy Tulane- Stammers blames the refs. It’s actually quite comical. You should spend more time learning about basketball and less trying to be a fake insider on the conf realignment front.
I hardly noticed Tulane’s defense. We shot nearly 50 percent and got tons of second chance points. We also made tons of turnovers that were unforeced. Jumping to pass, passing up good shots to get a better one etc. Unless you are talking about Tulane’s free throw defense which was pretty good
(02-04-2023 07:46 PM)Unionman76 Wrote: so our 2 games with houston have no meaning
We ain’t beating houston. Can’t even beat hapless Tulane
Someone hit the bottle earlier than usual.
I noticed you whined and complained about refs yet again in the game thread like an 8 yr old kid or 73 yr old lady who knows nothing about sports. “It’s the refs fault”. We choke away a 15 point lead in last 5 against a crap UCF team - Stammers blames the refs. We turn it over 20+ times and shoot 60% FT against lousy Tulane- Stammers blames the refs. It’s actually quite comical. You should spend more time learning about basketball and less trying to be a fake insider on the conf realignment front.
I think we just match up badly with Tulane. Yeah we should've won. KD missed 3 front ends of 1 and 1's yesterday. He shoots his average we win. But those flagrant foul calls were awful, just awful. Especially the call on DW. There is no way that's not a flagrant. He made no kind of play on the ball at all. All he did was grab his arm and act like he was trying to cushion his fall. Sigh.
(02-05-2023 02:14 PM)AtlTigerfan Wrote: I think we just match up badly with Tulane. Yeah we should've won. KD missed 3 front ends of 1 and 1's yesterday. He shoots his average we win. But those flagrant foul calls were awful, just awful. Especially the call on DW. There is no way that's not a flagrant. He made no kind of play on the ball at all. All he did was grab his arm and act like he was trying to cushion his fall. Sigh.
0-4 on game changing, obvious calls in the last 6 minutes of the game. That doesn't even take into account the other 20 they missed. You can't win with some of our psycho fans. We get called for fouls and we apparently deserve it. Other teams don't get called when they foul way more than us, and they are perfectly cool with it.
(02-05-2023 02:14 PM)AtlTigerfan Wrote: I think we just match up badly with Tulane. Yeah we should've won. KD missed 3 front ends of 1 and 1's yesterday. He shoots his average we win. But those flagrant foul calls were awful, just awful. Especially the call on DW. There is no way that's not a flagrant. He made no kind of play on the ball at all. All he did was grab his arm and act like he was trying to cushion his fall. Sigh.
0-4 on game changing, obvious calls in the last 6 minutes of the game. That doesn't even take into account the other 20 they missed. You can't win with some of our psycho fans. We get called for fouls and we apparently deserve it. Other teams don't get called when they foul way more than us, and they are perfectly cool with it.
See, this is where they'll come in with "official" foul counts and explain that you're completely wrong for feeling this way. They will then go on to say that it all boils down to the players, fans, coach, city, lack of an OCS, you, or any number of things that are the real problem and why we lost.
(02-04-2023 07:03 PM)msu35 Wrote: This team isn't loaded with talent like last year's, and the ceiling is lower as a result. Having a healthy Lomax back absolutely benefits us on defense, and isn't going to be worse than some of our current options on offense. Dandridge helps because he's big and difficult to push around, if nothing else.
Malcolm won't have his stamina back this quickly. That will have to be rebuilt...and I am not sure there will be enough time in the season left for it to be rebuilt.
(02-05-2023 04:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: Malcolm won't have his stamina back this quickly. That will have to be rebuilt...and I am not sure there will be enough time in the season left for it to be rebuilt.
I too am worried that he won't be back in any capacity at this point. Same goes for Lomax. We could certainly use them both.
He better grow some balls and start motivating his teams.. He is too laidback and doesn't work the refs.. The players missed FTs, but terrible coaching at the end of regulation and OT by Penny.
Good points. Ill have to disagree on the Alo and Dandridge comment. Alo makes it really hard on opposing guards and thats who killed us. Also we were getting beat up somewhat in the paint and Dandridge definitely can hold his own
DeAndre needs to quit handling the ball in the open court … a turnover waiting to happen …
Man to man defense is pathetic… allowing open looks for shooters… and it appears that’s how they are being taught, to play off their man when they’re off the ball …
Need to press on defense and push the ball on offense…
(02-05-2023 05:21 PM)memphis mania Wrote: Good points. Ill have to disagree on the Alo and Dandridge comment. Alo makes it really hard on opposing guards and thats who killed us. Also we were getting beat up somewhat in the paint and Dandridge definitely can hold his own
That's exactly right. Neither are elite players, but both fill roles that are currently missing and would help round out the team. Too many people are so bipolar about everything.
(02-05-2023 07:42 AM)Tigerspartan Wrote: Dropped to 47 in the NET. Not ideal obviously but not catastrophic. Cincy now a quad 1 game. Win the rest, lose to Houston on the road, and circle the final game of the season at home and we will be fine
You make that sound so simple. If only that were the case. We could lose to almost anyone on the road and Temple won’t be a cakewalk at home either. The Houston games, who knows? We typically get up for big games so we’ll have a chance.
Antics aside, Ron Hunter is a good coach.
Kendric had a bad game and missed more FTs than I've ever seen him.
Keonte deserved more minutes and J-Law fewer.
We were bound to lose one of these games down the stretch (excluding Houston) - I just hate it was this one.
If you're complaining about Deandre or Jayden after this game, you weren't watching closely enough.
We will be fine - and the sky is not falling.
(02-04-2023 07:03 PM)msu35 Wrote: This team isn't loaded with talent like last year's, and the ceiling is lower as a result. Having a healthy Lomax back absolutely benefits us on defense, and isn't going to be worse than some of our current options on offense. Dandridge helps because he's big and difficult to push around, if nothing else.
Have to agree. Except for Davis, the talent we brought in is not the equal of the talent we lost to either the draft or the transfer portal.
Agree. We had no player as good a Kendrick Davis on last year's team, but the sum of Jalen Duren, Landers Nolley, Lester Q, Josh Mynot, Earl Timberlake & Tyler Harris was better than what we replaced them with on this year's team, even with KD.
One player that we had signed, and lost at the last minute was Emmanuel Akot. I suspect he was replaced by Demaria Franklin. Comparing both player's 2022/23 results, Akot has better stats, albeit for a much weaker WKU team (13-11, 8th in CUSA). No guarantees Akot would have done better at Memphis, but you have to expect he should have higher fg & 3 pt percentages than Franklin, and would have helped the Tigers on the offensive end.
Hindsight is always 20-20, but this team really could have used Lester, Landers or Akot as a 3rd scoring option behind KD & DeAndre Williams.
(02-04-2023 07:03 PM)msu35 Wrote: This team isn't loaded with talent like last year's, and the ceiling is lower as a result. Having a healthy Lomax back absolutely benefits us on defense, and isn't going to be worse than some of our current options on offense. Dandridge helps because he's big and difficult to push around, if nothing else.
Have to agree. Except for Davis, the talent we brought in is not the equal of the talent we lost to either the draft or the transfer portal.
Agree. We had no player as good a Kendrick Davis on last year's team, but the sum of Jalen Duren, Landers Nolley, Lester Q, Josh Mynot, Earl Timberlake & Tyler Harris was better than what we replaced them with on this year's team, even with KD.
One player that we had signed, and lost at the last minute was Emmanuel Akot. I suspect he was replaced by Demaria Franklin. Comparing both player's 2022/23 results, Akot has better stats, albeit for a much weaker WKU team (13-11, 8th in CUSA). No guarantees Akot would have done better at Memphis, but you have to expect he should have higher fg & 3 pt percentages than Franklin, and would have helped the Tigers on the offensive end.
Hindsight is always 20-20, but this team really could have used Lester, Landers or Akot as a 3rd scoring option behind KD & DeAndre Williams.
I completely agree that Davis is an amazing talent and we're lucky to have him. I absolutely didn't mean to imply he wasn't with my post. I just meant that overall our team isn't as talented in every position like last year's.
A shame we didn't get Akot over Franklin. Who knows, maybe Franklin will have something click and his past performance can be chalked up to growing pains. I hope that will happen, but that hope diminishes with every game.
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