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(02-14-2023 09:01 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.




https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

And here is the difference in the BXII, 7-5 in the AAC sends you to avocado to take on a CUSA school. 7-5 in the BXII gets you in the Guaranteed Rate Bowl against a B10 opponent.

Bolded, so true. I think many of us would be elated in year one with a new coach in a new conference to be 7-5 and bowling against a decent B10 team.

I have to believe part of what made the UC job attractive for Satterfield was the rich OH recruiting ground that is now his home turf. Not that it's easy against the usual competition we see for high school talent, but by comparison, there just aren't that many P5 recruits in the entire state of Kentucky compared with UC's core of OH guys and the "hometown heroes".

(02-14-2023 09:19 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 09:01 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.




https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

And here is the difference in the BXII, 7-5 in the AAC sends you to avocado to take on a CUSA school. 7-5 in the BXII gets you in the Guaranteed Rate Bowl against a B10 opponent.

Bolded, so true. I think many of us would be elated in year one with a new coach in a new conference to be 7-5 and bowling against a decent B10 team.

I have to believe part of what made the UC job attractive for Satterfield was the rich OH recruiting ground that is now his home turf. Not that it's easy against the usual competition we see for high school talent, but by comparison, there just aren't that many P5 recruits in the entire state of Kentucky compared with UC's core of OH guys and the "hometown heroes".

iirc, and I only took a quick look but a lot of his recruiting was SEC country + CA and some TX. Having a homebase to build off of must be a plus.

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

(02-15-2023 08:31 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

Besides Temple, what easy AAC wins did we have this year?

Everybody just acts like the AAC was this joke of a football conference and we're going to be in way over our head next year. I don't know that this will be the case.

Tulane beat Kansas State on the road last year. If i remember correctly, Kansas State beat CFP participant TCU in the B12 championship game.

We had Tulane beat until Evan Prater let Tulane's offense walk right down the field for the game winning TD in the final minutes of the game.

So if Satterfield puts a decent product on the field like we've had with Fickell, I think we'll be competitive.

(02-15-2023 08:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:31 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

Besides Temple, what easy AAC wins did we have this year?

Everybody just acts like the AAC was this joke of a football conference and we're going to be in way over our head next year. I don't know that this will be the case.

Tulane beat Kansas State on the road last year. If i remember correctly, Kansas State beat CFP participant TCU in the B12 championship game.

We had Tulane beat until Evan Prater let Tulane's offense walk right down the field for the game winning TD in the final minutes of the game.

So if Satterfield puts a decent product on the field like we've had with Fickell, I think we'll be competitive.

I'll agree with you the AAC is a lot tougher than people give it credit for. Frankly, I don't think the ACC and PAC12 was that much better top to bottom and a couple of their teams on their bottom would have had a tough time with USF this year (especially earlier to the middle of the season).

The BXII IMHO is better than those two P5 conferences I just mentioned top to bottom. The worst team was Iowa State who finished 4-8, but four of those losses were by four points or less points and two more were by 6-7 points. This isn't the PAC12 or ACC where you have three teams with three wins or less to snack on.

(02-15-2023 08:57 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:31 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

Besides Temple, what easy AAC wins did we have this year?

Everybody just acts like the AAC was this joke of a football conference and we're going to be in way over our head next year. I don't know that this will be the case.

Tulane beat Kansas State on the road last year. If i remember correctly, Kansas State beat CFP participant TCU in the B12 championship game.

We had Tulane beat until Evan Prater let Tulane's offense walk right down the field for the game winning TD in the final minutes of the game.

So if Satterfield puts a decent product on the field like we've had with Fickell, I think we'll be competitive.

I'll agree with you the AAC is a lot tougher than people give it credit for. Frankly, I don't think the ACC and PAC12 was that much better top to bottom and a couple of their teams on their bottom would have had a tough time with USF this year (especially earlier to the middle of the season).

The BXII IMHO is better than those two P5 conferences I just mentioned top to bottom. The worst team was Iowa State who finished 4-8, but four of those losses were by four points or less points and two more were by 6-7 points. This isn't the PAC12 or ACC where you have three teams with three wins or less to snack on.

We are going from the 6th rated conference to the 2nd rated conference last year. Does the conference have a Bama, Georgia, OSU?

No, but that's still a big jump in competition every game.

(02-15-2023 08:31 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

Bolded, I'm betting the fans will stick around unless the wheels fall completely off. In that case, we'll probably see coaching changes sooner than ever before given the enhanced financial position of the athletic department.

Your worry is not unfounded though. I think our current fanbase consists of lifelong attendees multiplied exponentially by graduates of the past two decades and the current student population. Then add in those who have witnessed both the winning ways and the energy in Nippert and it has all transcended from just attending a game to embracing an experience. I remember those experiences at Nippert much longer than I do the final scores.

(02-15-2023 08:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:31 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

Besides Temple, what easy AAC wins did we have this year?

Everybody just acts like the AAC was this joke of a football conference and we're going to be in way over our head next year. I don't know that this will be the case.

Tulane beat Kansas State on the road last year. If i remember correctly, Kansas State beat CFP participant TCU in the B12 championship game.

We had Tulane beat until Evan Prater let Tulane's offense walk right down the field for the game winning TD in the final minutes of the game.

So if Satterfield puts a decent product on the field like we've had with Fickell, I think we'll be competitive.

Agreed. The gap between the AAC and B12 is not nearly as big as some people think. The two conferences had competitive games every year. I dont understand all the low expectations. I wont be shocked if year one we plummet to a .500 season, but theres no way i'd be elated with those results. I'm not expecting to walk into the B12 getting pushed around and just happy to be there. i expect to make our presence felt on day one. Oklahoma should expect a dog fight.

(02-15-2023 08:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:31 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

Besides Temple, what easy AAC wins did we have this year?

Everybody just acts like the AAC was this joke of a football conference and we're going to be in way over our head next year. I don't know that this will be the case.

Tulane beat Kansas State on the road last year. If i remember correctly, Kansas State beat CFP participant TCU in the B12 championship game.

We had Tulane beat until Evan Prater let Tulane's offense walk right down the field for the game winning TD in the final minutes of the game.

So if Satterfield puts a decent product on the field like we've had with Fickell, I think we'll be competitive.

"like we've had with Fickell" is a pretty tall order.

Fickell had two legit top-10 teams in the past three years.

I don't think that should be our standard for success. That's completely unrealistic.

We've been fortunate to have three of the very best coaches in college football over the past 20 years (Dantonio, Kelley, and Fickell). But the odds say that's mostly luck - the next guy is a lot more likely to be a Butch Jones or a Rick Minter than Fickell2.0.

(02-15-2023 08:57 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:31 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

Besides Temple, what easy AAC wins did we have this year?

Everybody just acts like the AAC was this joke of a football conference and we're going to be in way over our head next year. I don't know that this will be the case.

Tulane beat Kansas State on the road last year. If i remember correctly, Kansas State beat CFP participant TCU in the B12 championship game.

We had Tulane beat until Evan Prater let Tulane's offense walk right down the field for the game winning TD in the final minutes of the game.

So if Satterfield puts a decent product on the field like we've had with Fickell, I think we'll be competitive.

I'll agree with you the AAC is a lot tougher than people give it credit for. Frankly, I don't think the ACC and PAC12 was that much better top to bottom and a couple of their teams on their bottom would have had a tough time with USF this year (especially earlier to the middle of the season).

The BXII IMHO is better than those two P5 conferences I just mentioned top to bottom. The worst team was Iowa State who finished 4-8, but four of those losses were by four points or less points and two more were by 6-7 points. This isn't the PAC12 or ACC where you have three teams with three wins or less to snack on.

What I will not miss about the American is that with the possible exception of ECU football and Memphis none of these schools have any local fan following. I'm not talking about fans that travel to away games, I'm talking about when they play at home. How many times have the Bearcats rolled into places like Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, USF, SMU and now even Wichita in basketball and the joint is more than half empty. The teams they field have generally been pretty decent, but nobody cares in their local markets.

(02-15-2023 11:32 AM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:57 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:46 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 08:31 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(02-14-2023 08:46 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bill Connelly's SP+ projections came out today. He has UC at 43.

More fascinating to me...The Bearcats play 9 games against teams ranked between 34 and 62. That's a lot of tossup games on the schedule. And their home game against 14 Oklahoma is probably a 1 out of 3 type game.

Throwing out the autowins... pretty sure SP+ will have projected odds of winning each game something like this.

@Pitt (40) - 43-47%
Oklahoma (14) 28-34%
@BYU (62) 50-54%
Iowa State (45) 54-58%
Baylor (38) 50-54%
@Oklahoma State (34) 40-44%
UCF (39) 50-54%
@Houston (51) 48-52%
@WVU (50) 48-52%
Kansas (57) 56-60%

Guessing his projections will have UC at 7-5.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/in...every-team

Here's my Christmas wish. It's taken my entire lifetime but UC football is finally in a place where even they are filling the stadium for every game and not just the big name opponents. I sure hope these fans stick with the program even with a couple of 5-7 or 7-5 seasons. There's just no easy wins anymore.

Besides Temple, what easy AAC wins did we have this year?

Everybody just acts like the AAC was this joke of a football conference and we're going to be in way over our head next year. I don't know that this will be the case.

Tulane beat Kansas State on the road last year. If i remember correctly, Kansas State beat CFP participant TCU in the B12 championship game.

We had Tulane beat until Evan Prater let Tulane's offense walk right down the field for the game winning TD in the final minutes of the game.

So if Satterfield puts a decent product on the field like we've had with Fickell, I think we'll be competitive.

I'll agree with you the AAC is a lot tougher than people give it credit for. Frankly, I don't think the ACC and PAC12 was that much better top to bottom and a couple of their teams on their bottom would have had a tough time with USF this year (especially earlier to the middle of the season).

The BXII IMHO is better than those two P5 conferences I just mentioned top to bottom. The worst team was Iowa State who finished 4-8, but four of those losses were by four points or less points and two more were by 6-7 points. This isn't the PAC12 or ACC where you have three teams with three wins or less to snack on.

What I will not miss about the American is that with the possible exception of ECU football and Memphis none of these schools have any local fan following. I'm not talking about fans that travel to away games, I'm talking about when they play at home. How many times have the Bearcats rolled into places like Temple, Tulsa, Tulane, USF, SMU and now even Wichita in basketball and the joint is more than half empty. The teams they field have generally been pretty decent, but nobody cares in their local markets.

Bolded, agreed and I firmly believe this negatively impacts the visiting team too. Houston had a (rare) crowd to host Cincy this year and I think we saw a great performance by the Bearcats that came up just a little short. Compare that with road games at USF or ECU and it's easy to see 19 year old players losing focus in a mostly empty arena.

WVU is near the bottom of the Big 12 but UC should count on a full house and intense atmosphere in Morgantown next year, regardless of the standings. I think that raises the bar for UC knowing that every road game will be high profile and hotly contested in front of passionate fans.

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(05-31-2023 01:55 PM)bww Wrote:  

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Miami 7 PM 9/16
BYU 10:15 PM 9/29

A Saturday, Nipp at Night, Oktoberfest Weekend game...

That crowd will be heard at Rath's cabin

Palatial estate, thank you very much.

(05-31-2023 07:15 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Palatial estate, thank you very much.

In other words: "Compound."

That BYU game is Oktoberfest weekend (the real Oktoberfest in Minster, not that September thing in Cincinnati).

With the 10:15 start I will be able to see it after the high school football game is over, and others will see the first half in the park and the second half after the beer tents shut down.

I like the Miami time too. We need more night games at Nippert, especially early in the season when it is hot.

(05-31-2023 10:44 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That BYU game is Oktoberfest weekend (the real Oktoberfest in Minster, not that September thing in Cincinnati).

With the 10:15 start I will be able to see it after the high school football game is over, and others will see the first half in the park and the second half after the beer tents shut down.

I like the Miami time too. We need more night games at Nippert, especially early in the season when it is hot.

Oktoberfest isnt a weekend

(02-15-2023 11:12 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  We've been fortunate to have three of the very best coaches in college football over the past 20 years (Dantonio, Kelley, and Fickell). But the odds say that's mostly luck - the next guy is a lot more likely to be a Butch Jones or a Rick Minter than Fickell2.0.

at some point it becomes reality. the only miss was tubbers and it's possible that he could have been successful. satterfield doesn't look like a football coach. i kinda like that

(06-01-2023 02:45 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 11:12 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  We've been fortunate to have three of the very best coaches in college football over the past 20 years (Dantonio, Kelley, and Fickell). But the odds say that's mostly luck - the next guy is a lot more likely to be a Butch Jones or a Rick Minter than Fickell2.0.

at some point it becomes reality. the only miss was tubbers and it's possible that he could have been successful. satterfield doesn't look like a football coach. i kinda like that

Even Butch won well here (2 Big East Championships) and he was a pretty mediocre coach.

Maybe at some point our fans will accept this is a damn good job. UC isn't just hitting on coaches, coaches are hitting on UC.

(06-01-2023 11:05 AM)cincy7718 Wrote:  

(05-31-2023 10:44 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That BYU game is Oktoberfest weekend (the real Oktoberfest in Minster, not that September thing in Cincinnati).

With the 10:15 start I will be able to see it after the high school football game is over, and others will see the first half in the park and the second half after the beer tents shut down.

I like the Miami time too. We need more night games at Nippert, especially early in the season when it is hot.

Oktoberfest isnt a weekend

I’m heading to the real Oktoberfest in Munich. Will miss the OK game, which was a big motivation for keeping my season tickets