(01-25-2023 07:56 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:46 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think a C is generous. We’ve become a non factor in our conference & are only hoping to become religion because the 3 best teams are leaving. It doesn’t exactly seem like this thing is headed in the right direction.

Tulane was the best team this year and think they are still in the AAC.

Tulane had a great season. They have not proven to be the program UC, UCF & UH have been.

(01-25-2023 08:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:56 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:46 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think a C is generous. We’ve become a non factor in our conference & are only hoping to become religion because the 3 best teams are leaving. It doesn’t exactly seem like this thing is headed in the right direction.

Tulane was the best team this year and think they are still in the AAC.

Tulane had a great season. They have not proven to be the program UC, UCF & UH have been.

Great season for sure, especially capping the season with a win against USC at the Cotton Bowl. Losing Cincy, UH, and UCF won't be the end of the world.

Him totally blowing it against Houston and going for it on 4th and 26 against UCF in the middle of the fourth qtr in a tie game is all I need

C-

Only reason it's not lower is because we went and dominated our Bowl Game

(01-25-2023 08:44 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Him totally blowing it against Houston and going for it on 4th and 26 against UCF in the middle of the fourth qtr in a tie game is all I need

C-

Only reason it's not lower is because we went and dominated our Bowl Game

Look who we played----the BIG K would have dominated them

(01-25-2023 01:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:25 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:17 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Silverfield has gotten the Tigers bowl-eligible in all three seasons, but there's been a notable step back from the level of conference championship contention that he experienced as an assistant under Mike Norvell. With some questions swirling at the end of 2022, Silverfield got a vote of confidence from the administration as he leads Memphis into the new era as an American Athletic Conference member. Now that Cincinnati, Houston and UCF are gone, there are open spots at the top of the league that Memphis will be expected to fill. A sub-.500 record in conference play (11-13) won't cut it anymore.

Grade: C

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...re-with-f/

They aren't wrong.

The "grading" is quite generous considering RS has coached his teams to losing records in the AAC over the last 2 seasons finishing 6th & 7th in-conference. But somehow those finishes translate to Memphis being expected to fill the void left by those schools who actually have completed for championships over the last two seasons but are leaving for the B12.

You're being kind. We went 7th and 8th in conference the last two seasons.

(01-25-2023 09:19 PM)Alanda Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:25 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:17 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Silverfield has gotten the Tigers bowl-eligible in all three seasons, but there's been a notable step back from the level of conference championship contention that he experienced as an assistant under Mike Norvell. With some questions swirling at the end of 2022, Silverfield got a vote of confidence from the administration as he leads Memphis into the new era as an American Athletic Conference member. Now that Cincinnati, Houston and UCF are gone, there are open spots at the top of the league that Memphis will be expected to fill. A sub-.500 record in conference play (11-13) won't cut it anymore.

Grade: C

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...re-with-f/

They aren't wrong.

The "grading" is quite generous considering RS has coached his teams to losing records in the AAC over the last 2 seasons finishing 6th & 7th in-conference. But somehow those finishes translate to Memphis being expected to fill the void left by those schools who actually have completed for championships over the last two seasons but are leaving for the B12.

You're being kind. We went 7th and 8th in conference the last two seasons.

Lol, I knew it was bad enough not to waste the time to look it up.

(01-25-2023 08:44 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Him totally blowing it against Houston and going for it on 4th and 26 against UCF in the middle of the fourth qtr in a tie game is all I need

C-

Only reason it's not lower is because we went and dominated our Bowl Game

That's where I am. Regular season and conference standings make him below avg. Recruiting and bowl success saves him from a D.

(01-25-2023 10:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 09:19 PM)Alanda Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:25 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:17 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Silverfield has gotten the Tigers bowl-eligible in all three seasons, but there's been a notable step back from the level of conference championship contention that he experienced as an assistant under Mike Norvell. With some questions swirling at the end of 2022, Silverfield got a vote of confidence from the administration as he leads Memphis into the new era as an American Athletic Conference member. Now that Cincinnati, Houston and UCF are gone, there are open spots at the top of the league that Memphis will be expected to fill. A sub-.500 record in conference play (11-13) won't cut it anymore.

Grade: C

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...re-with-f/

They aren't wrong.

The "grading" is quite generous considering RS has coached his teams to losing records in the AAC over the last 2 seasons finishing 6th & 7th in-conference. But somehow those finishes translate to Memphis being expected to fill the void left by those schools who actually have completed for championships over the last two seasons but are leaving for the B12.

You're being kind. We went 7th and 8th in conference the last two seasons.

Lol, I knew it was bad enough not to waste the time to look it up.

Only reason why I knew it is because I was comparing him with Penny a few weeks ago.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-962901-post-18...id18707515

(01-25-2023 06:53 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 04:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 04:03 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 03:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 02:23 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Hum, Tulane winning the Cotton Bowl showed they are going to be tough, UTSA is very good and SMU is getting some very high-rated players from the transfer portal. This is not a weak conference that Memphis can automatically dominate by any means.

That's my point, even with Cincy, UCF & UH (all who have beaten us under RS) leaving, I'm not seeing anything that suggests confidence that Memphis can replace the B-12 departures to actually compete against Tulane, USA & SMU. I hope we can but have my doubts based on what RS' have shown the last two seasons. Further, if having a losing record in-conference meets a minimum std, we'll, over time settle for being bowl eligible as acceptable performance without competing for titles.

Let me add to my sentence....This is not a weak conference that Memphis can automatically domiante by any means..... even if Mike Norvell was still our coach.

Norvell would dominate this weak conference --IMO

Look at the 2018 schedule how weak it was. 8-6

You always move the goalposts. The true record was 8-4. He then lost to an UNDEFEATED UCF in the championship game and then a P5 team Wake Forest in the bowl game. 2 things Silverfield has never done. A. Been to a championship game and B. Played a P5 team in a bowl game. But hey you do you.

Silverfield needs to go. We're clearly stuck with him 2023.

(01-26-2023 03:27 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 06:53 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 04:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 04:03 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 03:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  That's my point, even with Cincy, UCF & UH (all who have beaten us under RS) leaving, I'm not seeing anything that suggests confidence that Memphis can replace the B-12 departures to actually compete against Tulane, USA & SMU. I hope we can but have my doubts based on what RS' have shown the last two seasons. Further, if having a losing record in-conference meets a minimum std, we'll, over time settle for being bowl eligible as acceptable performance without competing for titles.

Let me add to my sentence....This is not a weak conference that Memphis can automatically domiante by any means..... even if Mike Norvell was still our coach.

Norvell would dominate this weak conference --IMO

Look at the 2018 schedule how weak it was. 8-6

You always move the goalposts. The true record was 8-4. He then lost to an UNDEFEATED UCF in the championship game and then a P5 team Wake Forest in the bowl game. 2 things Silverfield has never done. A. Been to a championship game and B. Played a P5 team in a bowl game. But hey you do you.

Gotta love the miserables trying to compare Ruin to Norvell, which there is no comparison. One is a program builder and the other is a program destroyer, plain & simple.

It's time to raise expectations in the win column to coincide with the one positive thing Ruin has done, which is recruit alleged talent both from the high school ranks & portal. It's a make or break year, if he wins less than 9 regular season games based on our, again, historic recruiting classes and historically weak schedule, it's time to move on.

Ruin has positioned us in mediocrity land and destroyed our brand which used to produce exciting football, now, it's countless double digits leads blown, losing conference records, and 2 road wins in the AAC the past 2 seasons. Join the Revolution!

(01-26-2023 03:54 PM)gusrob Wrote:  Silverfield needs to go. We're clearly stuck with him 2023.

His performance hasn't been stellar. I reckon we'll see one of two things. Either he turns the ship around, or the school will be on the hunt for a new coach. Genuine question. What do you think is enough for him to save his job?

(01-26-2023 03:59 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  Ruin has positioned us in mediocrity land and destroyed our brand which used to produce exciting football, now, it's countless double digits leads blown, losing conference records, and 2 road wins in the AAC the past 2 seasons. Join the Revolution!

What if he were to log nine wins next year? Would you still feel the same way? Not saying he will, but it isn't impossible.

(01-26-2023 03:59 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(01-26-2023 03:27 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 06:53 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 04:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 04:03 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Let me add to my sentence....This is not a weak conference that Memphis can automatically domiante by any means..... even if Mike Norvell was still our coach.

Norvell would dominate this weak conference --IMO

Look at the 2018 schedule how weak it was. 8-6

You always move the goalposts. The true record was 8-4. He then lost to an UNDEFEATED UCF in the championship game and then a P5 team Wake Forest in the bowl game. 2 things Silverfield has never done. A. Been to a championship game and B. Played a P5 team in a bowl game. But hey you do you.

Gotta love the miserables trying to compare Ruin to Norvell, which there is no comparison. One is a program builder and the other is a program destroyer, plain & simple.

It's time to raise expectations in the win column to coincide with the one positive thing Ruin has done, which is recruit alleged talent both from the high school ranks & portal. It's a make or break year, if he wins less than 9 regular season games based on our, again, historic recruiting classes and historically weak schedule, it's time to move on.

Ruin has positioned us in mediocrity land and destroyed our brand which used to produce exciting football, now, it's countless double digits leads blown, losing conference records, and 2 road wins in the AAC the past 2 seasons. Join the Revolution!

^THIS^

It’s just silly to run down a former coach to prop up a current one. Especially one that was successful here. I’ll never understand it. And the dumbest thing is pointing out the 8-6. Going 8-4 regular season and losing a championship game and a bowl game against a P5 is a lot different from going 6-6 and beating a lower G5 school.

(01-26-2023 03:59 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-26-2023 03:54 PM)gusrob Wrote:  Silverfield needs to go. We're clearly stuck with him 2023.

His performance hasn't been stellar. I reckon we'll see one of two things. Either he turns the ship around, or the school will be on the hunt for a new coach. Genuine question. What do you think is enough for him to save his job?

8 wins (not counting bowl) and a winning conference record may do it.
If he does that, he's probably in the CCG hunt late in the season.
If I were him, I'd go ahead and win a 9th one though.
A lot will depend on attendance - and I'm not optimistic on that front.

(01-26-2023 04:01 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-26-2023 03:59 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  Ruin has positioned us in mediocrity land and destroyed our brand which used to produce exciting football, now, it's countless double digits leads blown, losing conference records, and 2 road wins in the AAC the past 2 seasons. Join the Revolution!

What if he were to log nine wins next year? Would you still feel the same way? Not saying he will, but it isn't impossible.

Nine regular season wins is the minimum for next season based on our schedule and assembled talent level. If we win nine games and in the conference title hunt, I think that is progress, and should be expected at this point. We have the luxury of having our more difficult conference opponents all at home this season and we should be able to handle our away conference schedule without being upset, I think we'll be double digit favorites in every road conference game, UAB may be the outlier, but we'll be a 7+ point favorite in that one.

6-6 is bad, and we cannot continue to maintain that status. We've come too far to regress at this point and need to build up our brand once again. We have all the tools in place to lead our conference, I'm worried the one we're missing is what is right between our head coach's ears during the 60 minutes on the field we witness every week. I hope I am proven wrong and he knocks it out of the park this season, he has been given enough time, it's now time to produce results and I think everyone tends to agree on that last part that it's time to win on the field. He is winning off the field but that MUST translate to victories on the field this season or it's time to move on.

(01-26-2023 04:21 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  8 wins (not counting bowl) and a winning conference record may do it.
If he does that, he's probably in the CCG hunt late in the season.
If I were him, I'd go ahead and win a 9th one though.
A lot will depend on attendance - and I'm not optimistic on that front.

That one is tougher to resolve, especially with attendance trends heading the wrong direction nationally. I'm not sure any coach could genuinely address that challenge in a single season.

(01-26-2023 04:33 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  Nine regular season wins is the minimum for next season based on our schedule and assembled talent level. If we win nine games and in the conference title hunt, I think that is progress, and should be expected at this point. We have the luxury of having our more difficult conference opponents all at home this season and we should be able to handle our away conference schedule without being upset, I think we'll be double digit favorites in every road conference game, UAB may be the outlier, but we'll be a 7+ point favorite in that one.

6-6 is bad, and we cannot continue to maintain that status. We've come too far to regress at this point and need to build up our brand once again. We have all the tools in place to lead our conference, I'm worried the one we're missing is what is right between our head coach's ears during the 60 minutes on the field we witness every week. I hope I am proven wrong and he knocks it out of the park this season, he has been given enough time, it's now time to produce results and I think everyone tends to agree on that last part that it's time to win on the field. He is winning off the field but that MUST translate to victories on the field this season or it's time to move on.

You're not wrong. Do you think the assistants he's assembled will help in that area? Ultimately, he would need to be humble enough to listen to his staff, and I don't know the man so I can't say if he would or wouldn't. At the end of the day the point of the exercise is to win.

(01-26-2023 04:33 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(01-26-2023 04:01 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-26-2023 03:59 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  Ruin has positioned us in mediocrity land and destroyed our brand which used to produce exciting football, now, it's countless double digits leads blown, losing conference records, and 2 road wins in the AAC the past 2 seasons. Join the Revolution!

What if he were to log nine wins next year? Would you still feel the same way? Not saying he will, but it isn't impossible.

Nine regular season wins is the minimum for next season based on our schedule and assembled talent level. If we win nine games and in the conference title hunt, I think that is progress, and should be expected at this point. We have the luxury of having our more difficult conference opponents all at home this season and we should be able to handle our away conference schedule without being upset, I think we'll be double digit favorites in every road conference game, UAB may be the outlier, but we'll be a 7+ point favorite in that one.

6-6 is bad, and we cannot continue to maintain that status. We've come too far to regress at this point and need to build up our brand once again. We have all the tools in place to lead our conference, I'm worried the one we're missing is what is right between our head coach's ears during the 60 minutes on the field we witness every week. I hope I am proven wrong and he knocks it out of the park this season, he has been given enough time, it's now time to produce results and I think everyone tends to agree on that last part that it's time to win on the field. He is winning off the field but that MUST translate to victories on the field this season or it's time to move on.

I agree with most all of this-------however-- the part about winning off the field I disagree .